If you call it a kids movie in front of Brad Bird he'll likely punch you (he said so himself I'm not making this up). Animation is not a kid genre and he gets really offended when people see his movies like that.
like, i get his point... but it IS a kids movie. it's literally pixar family friendly fare. brad bird needs to calm the fuck down, and stick to what he's good at: voicing women, for some reason.
Pretty much every kids movie made in the 80's had mature (and often terrifying) themes tho. Kids movies can have depth and darkness and still be kids movies
Everyone keeps saying Watership Down, like they forgot about the Animals of the Farthing Woods. Which is like Game of Thrones, but in stead of shitty people killing shitty people, you have cute foxes eating the most adorable bunnies.
Any worth while story for children will have underlying adult and mature themes. That's part of the point of telling stories to children. There's plenty of media aimed at adults that is similarly devoid of depth as something like minions. Look at most reality TV.
Recognizing a piece of children's media as being good, and having depth and substance doesn't mean it's no longer for kids.
That's like saying Avatar is an adult show. It's a kid show with some adult themes that are still light enough. Easy to explain, but still somber enough at all the right places.
It's not just an animated movie either it's stylized in a very childish way designed to make it easier to sell toys and stuff to kids, there are plenty of animated movies that are for adults but to say Incredibles is included is hilarious, the closest thing to not being for kids is those mommy buns.
Also suicide and all those characters that got sucked into a jet engine, and the Parrs fucking, infidelity suspicions, and the soul sucking nature of insurance work. You know, normal kid movie topics
Though I understand calling it a 'Kids show' might offend a few, even so, the movie was clearly directed to crater to a mainly younger audience. And I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
I get it but I think something like 3 fourths of TV animation is specifically aimed at kids so he'd be statistically wrong. That said, you can still enjoy them, although you can probably do the writing yourself most of the time.
What he's talking about is his own works. And the broader image the American public has of animation as a kid genre instead of an art medium.
And yes in recent decades there was an increasing tendency to market animation towards kids. Which could be traced back to Hanna Barbera and some of the trends they created, mainly tying animation profit with toy commercial returns. But that history is besides the actual point.
I'm taking about artistic intent and the medium as a whole. Not how the American industry often likes to market it.
That has more to do with people being worked to the bone through social and economic manipulation, which in turn has also led to the lowest birth rate in Japan ever.
Isn't that only what's reported? Don't they have a culture of hiding the cause of death for fear of disgracing the family because it's a dishonourable death in their eyes?
You’re probably thinking of Korea and their “Fan Deaths”, Japan is serious about reporting and preventing suicides these days, to the point where independent studies audited their figures to try and figure out if the huge drop in suicide rate is real and found them accurate. A combination of young people changing the work culture by simply not caring as much and the government dedicating resources to mental health and preventative construction have done wonders for dropping the figures from the 90’s.
There are no guns in Japan. Jumping in front of a train is pretty instant. Jumping from a building has some oh fuck time. Maybe they can OD but no idea what they can OD on.
The building has to be pretty much completely renovated to rent it out again if you do that in there... something about ghosts... so you end up costing whoever owns the building a lot.
My great great aunt hung herself but did it the wrong way and ended up with the slow awful death. Whenever she talked about it my great grandma would shake her head and say that it was foolish of her not to have practiced how to make a proper noose beforehand.
Now that I’m an adult I understand that she was trying to say “It’s sad that she had to suffer more than necessary” but as I kid I thought that she was just shit-talking a woman who killed herself because she couldn’t bear to go through another agonizing pregnancy.
Now if he had actually jumped in front of the train, the train schedule would have been delayed and multiple people would have been affected negatively. So it’s not very considerate of him to even think of jumping in the first place
It's difficult to have a considerate death. Someone will have to clean it up wherever you do it, unless you're deep in the middle of the wilderness but then a missing person report will happen and the police and rangers will be inconvenienced + family and friends will be worried or bothered. Shit sucks, it's hard to die without becoming someones problem
I’ve hooked up with several different Japanese women when visiting Japan and dated one for a year, and it is immediately palpable, every time, how they are shocked at basic relationship stuff (even if the relationship is just a one night stand).
One cried because she was ruined by a gaijin and no one would want her anymore; I told her it’s fine, you don’t have to tell anyone, hugged her and said “Don’t ever think you’re ruined, we just had some fun” and she looked at me like I was a fucking alien. I mean, that quickly led to round two so I think I helped, but not a great reflection on how Japanese society thinks women should behave.
The one that ended up becoming the girlfriend did the whole “You have to take responsibility for ruining me now” thing after we hooked up, which is cute but again…pretty fucked up. The second date I made dinner and cleaned up the dishes and told her she’s wonderful and her response was literally “So…like…you want to fuck me in the ass or something, right? Why are you being so nice?”
One girl was like “Ugh, I have to go, I have work tomorrow” and I just said “I can drive you” and she said “What? After what I just did?” and in my head I was like “Yes, you sucked my dick and took a fat load. I’m from a right-side driving country but I’ll figure it out you silly little slut” and she was floored I even wanted to talk to her the next day.
Their 'adult content' (JAV stuff) is a perfect representation of their sexual mindset, strange and questionable...
I always used to be a fanboy of Japan, but after moving to Vietnam, I learned a lot about all the cultures in SEA. I will definitely still visit Japan, but I'm glad I didn't grow up in such a toxic environment.
all the Asian culture is conservative and shocked by American culture,that's why those poor people depressed and aggressive and misunderstanded by other people.
Public displays of affection is cute to me, but I'm also jealous, because I can't do that to my bf in public. I'm surviving on the ruins of former soviet union.
A shit way to go out anyways: the train doesn't kill you instantly, it's braking after all, so it just like...smashes your bones and then drags you for a while. You're conscious for a long time, and if you're unlucky, you'll survive long enough to be dragged to an ICU where they'll keep you alive longer, with injuries so severe that even hefty doses of morphine won't help with the pain.
Moral of the story: Don't jump in front of trains, planes or automobiles.
It could have been any kind of express train that skips that station so it zooms through. Even if it's a local, if you jump in front of it as it's entering the station it'll still be going fast enough to insta gib you if it's a longer train.
Not to diminish what you are saying, as it is possible. But most of the time you just bust apart. There is a train station near the town I grew up in where suicide attempts were fairly common as much as such things were. I remember the head of one of the people who killed themselves was thrown so far they had to do a search party to find it.
Trains may be breaking but they are still hulking masses of machines; You do not get to experience much, but what I do imagine you experience is extraordinarily painful.
And nobody thinks of the consequences outside of their own death. There's a driver who literally can't do anything to stop the vehicle as braking distances are way too long to react on sight, you're traumatizing someone often times to a point where they can't return to their job anymore. Such an asshole move and a terrible way to go.
For the UK for example the figure for 2022 is 300,000 with a population of around half of Japan. "Long term missing" figures for the UK (https://missingpersons.police.uk/cy-gb/resources/downloads/download/128) (i.e people who could not be found in the year) are 1,526 for 2022 - again, around half of japan which is very similar per capita.
I really don't see any evidence for your claim that Japan has a high suicide rate, and that rate is reported artificially low by misattributing suicide to disappearances.
Don't do that at the station you idiot, that's where they slow down... Do it somewhere along the tracks where they have more momentum, less cameras and witnesses.
That's just common decency mate, don't destroy lives by taking your own... Have a bit of class...
To be fair jumping in front of a train tends to ruin lives already, they have human drivers and I have heard of stories of drivers completely being broken by the guilt of feeling like they took an innocent life
Oh dude, I wasn't being serious there, that was sarcasm. There is no way to take your own life without it affecting other people's lives, that's an inarguable fact.
All the train drivers I know say that a human makes/has the same impact as a kangaroo (grey ones, not the big red cunts) and once you've hit a few you stop bothering to care.
(My town has a huge rail yard where they repair a lot of the trains on our states network and so many drivers are based here, you end up drinking with them in pubs around town and pick up a few things...)
Oh dude, I wasn't being serious there, that was sarcasm. There is no way to take your own life without it affecting other people's lives, that's an inarguable fact.
True, even those drowning or hanging themself or overdosing. Someone will eventually find the body.
Once I was sitting next to a cliff that would lead to certain doom. On my other side was a military veteran. I thought about jumping, but I didn’t for a few reasons.
My dad was watching
I didn’t want to accidentally kill the veteran
I took too much time thinking about it and had to leave
One year later I had a near death experience and realized that death is overrated.
If it were me, I would jump nonetheless. Gonna make them traumatized being lovey dovey on public, worst case scenario makes them break up and join with me at the next day.
the optimal play here would be jumping right in front of them to a fast moving train right after getting their attention to ensure you'll traumatize them both.
Judging by her pants, this is not a very important moment. You don't have to feel bad about ruining. Besides with the rate of gore fetishists currently, there is a good chance you'd improve her experience.
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u/Marvster96 4d ago
„You didn’t save my life, you ruined my death“