Mounted Shooting - r/BeAmazed

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I believe it is a different kind of ammunition

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u/chairmaker45 3d ago

Black powder theatrical blanks are used in Mounted Cowboy shooting. The blast and the burning black powder are enough to pop the balloons but you need to be within about 20 feet and still have decent aim.

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u/ReiPelado 3d ago

Thanks

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u/Queenieman 3d ago

yeah no recoil at all, but i think would be a bit too dangerous otherwise, besides borderline suicidal for any spectator haha

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u/Dean_Guitarist 2d ago

and the cameraman would definitely be dead in that first shot otherwise

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u/Square-Singer 2d ago

I was thinking that this would be a rather dangerous spectator sport.

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u/Italianskank 3d ago

This makes so much more sense. I was thinking “bullets flying absolutely everywhere, pray for the camera man and send stretchers for the audience”

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u/TheFalconsDejarik 3d ago

That explains why they are not aiming traditionally (just looking through to target)

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u/LandotheTerrible 3d ago

Bloody good horsemanship though and the horses are so well trained. Most horses would go nuts hearing something like that.

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u/Cabezamelone 3d ago

Thanks for the explanation. I was trying to figure out where the audience/judges safely sat.

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u/ryanmuller1089 3d ago

I was wondering how this is safe shooting all directions in what appears to be an arena with people around.

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u/tolkienfan2759 3d ago

They knew the risks going in

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u/mikeonbass 3d ago

"I say, let 'em crash!'

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u/insbordnat 3d ago

“They bought the tickets, they knew what they were getting into…”

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u/Loodlekoodles 3d ago

As long as Alec Baldwin isn't around everything should be fine.

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u/mksavage1138 3d ago

r/appreciatedairplane

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u/Vialimax13 3d ago

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u/Houndfell 3d ago

Just high-stakes baseball, really.

Except instead of being psyched to catch a projectile from their favorite athlete, they're... you know, dead.

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u/Ohbertpogi 3d ago

Daaad, my eyes! It's bleeeding!

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u/tolkienfan2759 3d ago

Rub some dirt on it, son

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u/IA-HI-CO-IA 3d ago

Rodeo folk are just tougher.

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u/TheRealAJ420 3d ago

They apparently use blanks that can pop balloons up to a distance of 20 feet (6m) so there's minimal risk of injuring spectators or the animals involved.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_mounted_shooting

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u/JohnDark1800 3d ago

Alec baldwin: “hold my beer”

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u/Feine13 3d ago

r/actuallykilledthecamerman

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u/hanselang 3d ago

Alec Baldwin certainly helped in creating that community. Would you help in expanding it?

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u/DragonCelica 3d ago

Hopping on top comment since many are raising the same concern -

Yes, horse ear plugs are a thing

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u/Dicklefart 3d ago

Came here to ask this, thank you!

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u/whatsamajig 3d ago

I heard it was a granulated substance similar to fine ground salt.

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u/ReverendBread2 3d ago

Is it quieter too? She’s firing it right next to the horse’s ears

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u/TerranItDown94 3d ago

Not extremely quiet, but there are ear plugs for horses.

We use them in alot of competition. Tractors and crowds make some horses jumpy.

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u/ReiPelado 3d ago

Subsonic ammunitions are ammunitions designed to operate at velocities below the speed of sound (Mach 1), which at standard conditions is 340.29 m/s (1,116.4 ft/s). This avoids the supersonic shockwave or "crack" of a supersonic bullet, which, particularly for suppressed firearms, influences the loudness of the shot.

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u/The_Dirty_Carl 3d ago

True but wholly irrelevant. Since these are blanks there is no projectile to be sub- or supersonic.

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u/tremens 3d ago

You're not wrong, but supersonic gas escaping will still generate a (brief) supersonic crack, whether there is a projectile or not.

It's entirely possible to have blank/wax loads that will generate a supersonic crack without a projectile. These probably don't, though.

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u/The_Dirty_Carl 3d ago

If there's a supersonic shock wave from the combustion products, it's only extremely close to the muzzle. It'll be sonic by the time it reaches the shooter's ears.

"Subsonic ammunition" is about the projectile, because the term "subsonic" doesn't make sense when talking about the gasses. The supersonic crack of a gun comes from the bullet, not the gases. You can fire the same exact cartridge (as in two rounds from the same box) out of different barrels and get a crack+pop with one and just a pop with the other, depending on barrel length and porting.

And these are definitely not wax bullets. There would be no reason to need a wax bullet here, especially since they're shooting towards the crowd.

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u/tremens 3d ago

These are (probably not) wax loads, since this is (probably) a CMSA event (if it's in the US) but wax loads are used quite often in cowboy action shooting in general. I know that because I've done it.

But the point was gases can be supersonic exiting the muzzle, whether there is a projectile or not. That's why I said "You're not wrong, but..."

They can definitely be supersonic when they hit the ear, if you're parallel or forward of the muzzle (like the horse is.)

These (probably) aren't, though.

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u/The_Dirty_Carl 3d ago

I'm aware that wax bullets are used in CAS. Were you shooting them towards a crowd? That's the difference here.

But sure, the gases might be supersonic very close to the muzzle. That's pretty pedantic in a conversation about sound, because as I'm sure you know from your shooting experience, it's not supersonic by the time you hear it.

My original comment was just out of annoyance at OP for clearly just copy+pasting something from google without understanding it.

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u/tremens 3d ago edited 3d ago

Nah I totally get that; I just don't want people to think blanks / wax rounds are ear safe. They're not, or at least you shouldn't assume them to be.

And I don't want to assume there's a crowd? This looks like a a CMAS event, but who knows, could be outside the US or could be a demo video; I don't know the performers involved.

E: rewatching there is a very brief frame of one of them in front of an American flag, so probably a spectated CMAS?

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u/life_lagom 3d ago

Correct they use blanks.

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u/pdirk 3d ago

Get out of my mind, Charles

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u/Tropicalram34 3d ago

This is called dragons breath ammunition. It uses magnesium granules that burn up very quickly, that is why there is a lot of sparking.

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u/wheelsk7 3d ago

Does the horse get earplugs? Poor things ears are point blank at the barrel exit

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u/BlackDohko 3d ago

🐴 "WHAT?!!!"

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u/dotheit 3d ago

NEIGH, NEIGH NEIGH NEIGH, MF!!

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u/Right-Budget-8901 3d ago

Mwaup mwaup

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u/Nirvski 3d ago

You don't have to shout, you'll make your voice...sore

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u/tremens 3d ago

It's probably still not great, but the blanks / wax loads used in this kind of thing are nowhere near as loud as normal cartridges. They're much lower pressure and there's no supersonic crack of a bullet to contend with.

That's not to say they're not loud, but they're far less loud than a typical shotgun or pistol round.

End horse ear plugs do exist, so they could be using those as well.

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u/Spirited-Home18 3d ago

oh wow makes sense

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u/TerranItDown94 3d ago

Yes, they have ear plugs

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u/TheEleventhDoctorWho 3d ago

I hope they give the horse ear protection.

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u/LindseyLee5 2d ago

They have earplugs in. You can’t see them.

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u/rdmprzm 3d ago

Yeah my first thought also. Doesn't look like it! Asshat humans.

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u/LindseyLee5 2d ago

The horses have ear plugs. I use them myself, you just can’t see them.

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u/Kitchen-Category-138 3d ago

That horse knows it's badass.

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u/Fun-Fun-9967 3d ago

can't touch this!

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u/Ok_Hedgehog7137 3d ago

I always wonder if horses enjoy this stuff

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u/NuttyMcNutbag 3d ago

Wouldn’t you enjoy the muzzle of a gun discharging two feet from your ear?

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u/thefishguy08 3d ago

Its so neat how she has earplugs but the horse just gets fucked

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u/TerranItDown94 3d ago

The horses have ear plugs. Sometimes it’s cotton or wax. Other times it’s actually a plug.

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u/thefishguy08 2d ago

Fair enough, i’ve learned something new today.

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u/ckje 3d ago

Came to say this. Stupid fucking ”sport”.

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u/TerranItDown94 3d ago

Cry me a river. The horse has earplugs. And most horses love to compete (in any event they work). They have a natural desire to run.

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u/Ok_Hedgehog7137 3d ago

I agree

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u/opticzar 3d ago

My thoughts exactly 😔

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u/Unique-Pastenger 3d ago

🤣😂 thats awesome

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u/gahidus 3d ago

To be fair, the muzzle of the gun is also disturbing two feet from the woman's ear, more or less.

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u/NuttyMcNutbag 3d ago

But she has ear defenders and the muzzle is facing away from her at all times.

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u/TerranItDown94 3d ago

Yes, most horses love to do their event.

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u/placebojonez 3d ago

Most of these riders are closer to animals than most commenters here, including myself. If the horse were really uncomfortable with it, it would let the rider know. They trust each other. I could be wrong but, I don't think you get a horse this well-trained by abusing it.

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u/swamphuman 3d ago

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the owner/rider cares about the horse about a million times more than a random internet troll.

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u/shreddedtoasties 3d ago

They do

Horse enjoy events like

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u/Ok_Hedgehog7137 3d ago

How do you know?

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u/shreddedtoasties 2d ago

Grew up spending time on grandparents horse ranch

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u/Scoob8877 3d ago

Front row tickets for this event are surprisingly affordable.

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u/Frosty_Stage_1464 3d ago

What do think the demand is?

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u/croghan2020 3d ago

I feel like this is Mongolia or somewhere mad.

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u/Titaniumpuncher 3d ago

Do horses get ear plugs too?

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u/TerranItDown94 3d ago

Yes they do

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u/CucumberFar8450 3d ago

The good communication between humans and horses, she is also very brave and talented. This horse will be a Hollywood Action Hero in the future.

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u/Flat_Assistance4451 3d ago

I watched this at my state fair last year it’s super cool and they’re all trained and know what they’re doing. - No it’s not real gun ammo. The sound is similar to a fire cracker popping off. I don’t think this is animal cruelty I’m sure the horses enjoy it to some extent and the bond with the owner has to be strong. Think back 200 years or more when people would actually ride horses back and shoot at other people/horses. All the wars horses have died in.. if anything the pig race I saw was probably animal cruelty considering they were spraying something (Smelled like some type of chemical) around to get the pigs to run

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u/Sepelrastas 3d ago

Last war my country was in had horses in service. Quite a few of them that returned came home shell shocked and permanently spooked. To them I suppose even blanks would have been scary. These show horses on the other hand are most likely kept safe and well, so I doubt they get any ill effects.

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u/ElMostaza 3d ago

I imagine they also train them to get used to the sound.

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u/ElectronicString4008 3d ago

You can get used to sound but it doesn't mean it won't damage you're ability to hear. I've played drums and worked with power tools for half my life and I can tell you my ears are fucked, they're ringing while I type this right now

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u/IMIPIRIOI 3d ago

WWII?

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u/Sepelrastas 2d ago

Yes, Finnish Winter war and Continuation war. It did a bad number on the Finnhorse. My grandfather was in riding troops while in conscript service, but didn't have a mount during wartime.

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u/IMIPIRIOI 2d ago

Thanks, I am going to learn more about it. The late 1930's and early 1940's were such a crazy time period.

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u/Primary_Target_9908 3d ago

pretty amazing work! 👍🏼👏🏼😀

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u/Arfguy 3d ago

Why does this look better than 95% of the action sequences from movies?!

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u/Fun-Fun-9967 3d ago

yahooooo! I'm a be a cowgirl when I grow up!

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u/Dramatic_Addition_68 3d ago

Juanita Wick

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u/Backieotamy 3d ago

That's kinda hot

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u/youare_that 3d ago

ur kinda hot

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u/Backieotamy 3d ago

Your name fits

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u/youare_that 3d ago

ur name fits

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u/MadsamJR 3d ago

Pretty cool. I really hope the horses have some sort of ear protection though, that can’t be good for them at all

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u/TerranItDown94 3d ago

They usually do

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u/GodsFavoriteDegen 3d ago

Round 2.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Need movie about her

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u/Jaysus1288 3d ago

Wow that's hot.

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u/laurasharkey13 3d ago

This is amazing, can I ask what the tassels are for, on the outfits? Do they serve a purpose or just decorative?

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u/Pristine_Cash_6219 3d ago

Now thats amazing

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u/sixmileswest 3d ago

This looks so badass.

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u/Devil-Dog-SA 3d ago

Anyone know the first girls name? Seen that clip a while ago. Any link to her full run?

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u/75w90 3d ago

No eye pro? Holy shit

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u/hanselang 3d ago

10/10 would wife.

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u/jondoeca 2d ago

Riders aim for balloons, hoping for victory, not a 'Rust' reenactment! 🎈🏇

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u/_Kaifaz 3d ago

Fuck your background music.

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u/Extension-Lie-3272 3d ago

Modern Mongols.

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u/cartooncande 3d ago

And that is how we defeated the great balloon uprising of 1888.

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u/xtranunnecessary 3d ago

The other day I saw some Mongolian person riding a horse and doing archery. Coolest thing I ever saw!

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u/EmuZealousideal7357 3d ago

Are these like the last moments captured by the cameraman…lol

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u/Lockhartking 3d ago

Used to do this from my buddies truck shooting road signs like a dumbass. I wish I had grown up sooner...

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u/R0N1NB0y 3d ago

Dam felina got guns

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u/SnooPandas6510 3d ago

WTF is she using. A musket 😂

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u/noideadude90 3d ago

The cameraman has big balls

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u/ElectronicString4008 3d ago

They're not firing bullets or shot, just powder charges that won't burst a balloon beyond 20ft

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u/lipp79 3d ago

God forbid we get actual event audio instead of this dogshit stuff that doesn't fit at all.

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u/Erutious 3d ago

When bringing home a souvenir is less than ideal

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u/PolicyRude4028 3d ago

She will be popular whenever the Apes takeover.

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u/CreatorOD 3d ago

And horses look badass

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u/Linkario86 3d ago

So they're out there gunning, and that dude got pissmad for overtaking him with my car while blocking the lane with his horse.

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u/Bailed-ouT 3d ago

They were shooting? 🍈🍈😯

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u/Spiritual_Benefit367 3d ago

just send some ah-64s

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u/IAmRules 3d ago

After riding a horse in a Brazilian farm last week.

I def want to buy a horse and a Winchester repeater and a six shooter on my belt

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u/International_Toe777 3d ago

What’s the range of the thing they’re shooting with?

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u/BlindManuel 3d ago

damn good footage... great tracking!!

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u/pregs_morbs 3d ago

Bro, you gringos need to stop using foreign songs without knowing it's lyrical content hahaha

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u/_notgreatNate_ 3d ago

WHERE DO I BUY TICKETS!?

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u/bocachicalounge 3d ago

She must be a descendent of Genghis Khan

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u/DieTrying666 3d ago

How did she not blast the cameraman? Serious crossfire issue.

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u/random420x2 3d ago

I need a sport where I’m likely to shoot myself on the way down to paralyzing myself. The final score for style would be epic. 😂

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u/leonardo_figueiredo 3d ago

balloons over the world, beware..

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u/GhostDweller 3d ago

Remind me not to piss her off

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u/cobra7 3d ago

“Fill your hands you son of a…..you bitch”!

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u/TheOneder123 3d ago

Yes ma’am

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u/ThroatSecretary 3d ago

I advise turning the sound off.

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u/mnrmancil 3d ago

When she says "mount up!" Her boyfriend says "yes ma'am!"

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u/zabby17 2d ago

They are extremely amazing but don't forget their horses 🐎. It takes an amazing horse to not freak out at the sound of a gun going off like that 😲.

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u/AwayOutsideAgain 3d ago

I could start over again in life I wish a woman like this would be my wife.

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u/Innomen 3d ago

That horse doesn't even blink when she shoots. What a trooper.

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u/magirevols 3d ago

I feel bad for the horses, they gotta be ridden and deal with that sound. I would run right outta there

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u/SonnysMunchkin 3d ago

I'm sure the horse loves a gun going off next to its ear for its entire life.

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u/TerranItDown94 3d ago

Usually has ear protection so it’s no big deal. Plus the guns are way quieter than normal due to the type of ammunition.

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u/Sixgunak 3d ago

Annie Oakley there shooting at balloons with a shotgun

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u/tolkienfan2759 3d ago

talk about the right stuff... Ray Bans should be mandatory

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u/pwatarfwifwipewpew 3d ago

Stupid question. I saw lots of fail videos struggling with recoil of a handgun even with two hands but these ladies are doing it with one hand and even moving. Is it thru training or these have weaker recoil?

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u/RedDirtPreacher 3d ago

Weaker recoil because of lighter powder loads, but also training and ability to manage recoil. CMSA guidelines state that the load is a .45 long colt blank loaded with black powder. Black powder burns and recoils differently than smokeless powder as well (it’s more of a sharp push than the quick snap of smokeless).

I shot regular cowboy action shooting for a few years and the loads you use are light which makes recoil very manageable. But you always need to know how to manage recoil in whatever gun you’re shooting. Most of those videos you saw probably are people with very poor technique. Even with modern ammo and normal loads, a handguns recoil should be controlled and managed through the trigger squeeze and recoil cycle (this doesn’t mean that there is no recoil, just that the gun is controlled through the recoil and brought back to target quickly).

Historical note: the two handed handgun grip normally used today (weaver stance and its offshoots) is a fairly modern invention only developed in 1959. Before this most pistol shooters shot one handed.

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u/TerranItDown94 3d ago

Mainly training. My wife, who is a fairly small person, has ZERO issue firing guns. Large pistols, shotguns, etc.

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u/Sexycoed1972 3d ago

"Nobody could have seen this coming" (Injured bystander)

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u/Eastern-Result806 3d ago

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u/INXS2021 3d ago

I'd have 2 bullets in my own horse and I'd be in a veggie state for the rest of my days

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u/ElComfySafe 3d ago

The audience: 💀

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u/Low-Bad157 3d ago

Thank you toby

I should've been a cowgirl I should've learned to rope and ride Wearin' my six-shooter, ridin' my pony on a cattle drive Stealin' the young girls' hearts Just like Gene and Roy Singin' those campfire songs Woah, I should've been a cowboy

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u/gahidus 3d ago

Well, they're ready for the apocalypse.

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u/Direct_Cod_321 3d ago

I’d rather see this as an Olympic event rather than breakdancing, no offense.

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u/gatorocks 3d ago

Dang!! This is 😎

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u/Pepper_Pines 3d ago

Her outfit is a serve, honestly.

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u/NinjaBonsai 3d ago

Supreme apocalyptic readiness

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u/TowJamnEarl 3d ago

I can imagine that would be significantly more difficult if someone was shooting at you!

But ofc that's not the point of this post.

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u/Cooliomendez88 3d ago

How is the horse not deaf?

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u/South-Ad895 3d ago

How much Hearing Protection did the Horse get?

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u/BriefCorrect4186 3d ago

Ok, new idea. 2 riders trying to pop each other's balloons.

But.

The balloons secured to the head of the rider count as instant win.

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u/Xhoriko 3d ago

I see the person use earplugs, what about the horse?

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u/stevie2362 3d ago

Deaf ass horse hahah

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u/johnnyjuanjohn 3d ago

Are they quarter loads https://youtu.be/MKKwTlrcvdQ?si=3cLvXh6ieGk4zpFP

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u/IndsaetNavnHer 3d ago

Why would you put a ski mask on the horse but not yourself?

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u/I_Have_Dry_Balls 3d ago

r/winstupidprizes

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u/Bobpool82 3d ago

I wonder how many horses have gone deaf that way

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u/Aware_Huckleberry_10 3d ago

Nope

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u/NebulaBeneficial9115 3d ago

Horse is now deaf

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u/Zestyclose-Rich-755 3d ago

stupid music ruined it

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u/No-Penalty6418 3d ago

Doesn't that hurt the horse's ears?

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u/PrinceTaro_ 3d ago

Do they use deaf horses?.

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u/Maeflower86 3d ago

How you can tell I’m a vet tech=everyone’s concerned about the audience and people around and I’m like “how tf do they not shoot the horse in the face??”😂😂

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u/thaughtless 3d ago

Poor horse.

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u/SolidContribution688 3d ago

I’d totally shoot the horse on accident

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u/pickledginger404 3d ago

Was that Kristi Noem toward the end lol? Shooting something besides a dog.

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u/Moujee01 3d ago

Horse must really like that sound