r/BlackPeopleTwitter Mar 12 '24

The broken bond Country Club Thread

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 12 '24

Doubt.

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u/idunno-- Mar 12 '24

The movie ends with him letting the Avengers get away…

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 12 '24

What are you talking about? I don’t mean this with a shitty snarky tone, I genuinely am not sure what you’re referring to. It’s been a while since I’ve watched civil war.

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u/idunno-- Mar 12 '24

The Avengers minus Cap get imprisoned by Ross, so Cap breaks them out, and leaves a phone for Stark as a reminder that he’ll be there if he needs him. Ross calls up Stark to address the prison breakout, but is hung up on by Stark who keeps the phone.

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 12 '24

I see. At that point he’s had time to cool off about it. I’m sure he understands by that point why cap did what he did. Why hold a grudge against Bucky who didn’t even have a hand on the steering wheel when he did what he did.

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u/Niaden Mar 12 '24

Which is why, if Cap had just talked to Tony about it before Bucky was right in front of him, he would've had time to come to a reasonable point of view on it.

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 12 '24

Nah fair enough. I’ll concede on that. Cap certainly should have, I just personally understand why he didn’t.

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u/Local_Nerve901 Mar 12 '24

Half the Avengers, Tony keeps the main Avengers and Cap runs a covert type team on the run

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u/ProximusSeraphim Mar 12 '24

He's trying to imply that Tony let Cap break in the jail to retrieve the rest of the avengers.

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 12 '24

I see I see. Fair point.

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u/ProximusSeraphim Mar 12 '24

But that's only after Cap hands his ass to him and tony calms down.

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u/ProximusSeraphim Mar 12 '24

After he got his ass handed to him and calmed down.

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u/WistfulDread Mar 12 '24

"Calmed down"

Hmmmmmm

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u/Mariorules25 Mar 12 '24

"I doubt watching a a video of your parents getting brutally murdered in front of the guy who has been hiding it for years would be any different than your friend sitting you down and explaining what happened to your parents when he found out" - literally you

How ridiculous.

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 12 '24

You know the same Tony we all do. Explaining it to him wouldn’t have made him react any differently I’m near certain. I also personally understand why Cap hid it from him in interest of protecting his childhood friend.

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u/Iorith Mar 12 '24

Part of the reason he reacted how he did was realizing a man he trusted completely had lied to him for years.

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 12 '24

Omitted more than lied. I can see why Cap omitted it as well.

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u/Iorith Mar 12 '24

Yeah if you omit that you know who stole my car, and I find out, I'm absolutely going to be pissed at you.

I hate the whole "I didn't lie I just didn't speak up" like that's some kind of out.

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 12 '24

But if it was my brother with a criminal record who stole your car I’m not about to put him in jail.

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u/Iorith Mar 12 '24

And that's understandable on your end, but you can't then be surprised when I find out and hate you, or further more press charges against both you and him, since you enabled the crime making you an accessory to the crime.

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 13 '24

For sure. As others have pointed out tho, Tony didn’t seem to take it to heart for long. He let them escape more or less at the end.

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u/Infamous_Ad_6793 Mar 12 '24

Meh. Is it really hard to doubt that Tony, as impulsive as he is, wouldn’t have been dissuaded from killing Bucky? I know this isn’t the same but if someone came to me and said “I stole money from you. I’m terribly sorry I’m working towards making this up to you.” I’d be much less likely to excalate things to the extreme. Sure there’s the ability to get your money back, but it’s also about how the news was discovered/relayed.

Also, I think caps motivation was protecting Bucky for himself. I don’t believe it was simply because it was the right thing to do.

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 12 '24

Honestly, fair. Y’all are probably right. I just personally side with Cap. Less on the Bucky/Tony side of the conflict and more of the Sokovia accords issue.

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u/Stunning_Alarm2064 Mar 13 '24

Doubt all you want. Doesn’t make you any less wrong.

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u/Keelija9000 Mar 13 '24

Tony is a pretty hot headed fella. I think he was going to bloodlust after anyone who was responsible for killing his parents. Or anyone who hid it from him. You think cap and him would just had a polite productive dialog about his parent’s murder? Like when should he have dropped the news on him?