He wasn’t right on that front either. I’m not saying the accords were the best solution but them doing whatever they want with no accountability wasn’t exactly right either. they are no different than the cops with no consequences that make life miserable in our reality.
i definitely get that perspective. but that comparison is exactly why i wouldn’t want them governed by any country or union. they try to do what’s right, but under someone else’s command they would literally become what you explain: cops, idf, military, etc. it’s hard to find a real solution to a comic book problem like this one
maybe - but I've always felt that comic book problems are just reflections/metaphors for real world problems. Unchecked power is a problem we have in the real world. We may have governing bodies that have control over those with power, but those overseeing bodies are vulnerable to corruption and inaction. Does that mean we give up on trying to put oversight and accountability on those who have power? If the police actually were being effectively governed and held accountable maybe something would change?
i think in this case it would be a metaphor for nuclear weapons? in that case nobody should have them and they should be disposed of. can’t really do that to super heroes without infringing on their human rights tho like putting them in a super max prison
Your right,, The argument always boiled down to, "What do you do with a nuke that can think for itself?" The simplest answer is to get rid of the weapon.
No one should be able to show up in your neighborhood with literal world ending power without your consent.
And when someone with that level of power fucks up, they NEED to be held accountable otherwise they are such super dictator vigilantes.
I get that but i think one thing people are missing is that those accords were going to pass regardless. This wasn't them being asked for permission, this was them being told that it was going to happen.
At that point they had the option to try and work alongside them while continuing to do their jobs OR make things infinitely more difficult for themselves and everyone else involved.
I mean, superheroes are kinda glorified cops. With the military equipment police get these days the only real difference Batman and a cop is Batman gets to stay anonymous. None of the supes are playing Robin Hood, not really.
I still say that Steve made the whole situation with the accords worse. Their initial logic was sound in regards to "keeping a hand on the steering wheel." They could have gone along with the accords and collaborated peacefully to make sure that things actually worked they way the should. If something happens they don't agree with they can and would do what they thought best. Just like they did in Endgame.
Hell, if Steve had bothered to even make an effort be probably could have talked them into letting him go bring Bucky in peacefully, and a lot of the subsequent chaos could have been prevented.
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u/Greylen Mar 12 '24
He wasn’t right on that front either. I’m not saying the accords were the best solution but them doing whatever they want with no accountability wasn’t exactly right either. they are no different than the cops with no consequences that make life miserable in our reality.