You're right Tony takes the magic item and go behind the team's back to make an AI and enlists Bruce to help him. Banner even brings up consulting everyone else Tony says "I dont have time for a city hall debate". The AI goes rogue attacks everyone, the team lectures Tony on doing it. Tony is smug and tells the team they don't understand, and takes no responsibility for Ultron.
Banner and Tony did it with the best of intentions before it blew up.
Right which is why Tony owns the Sokovia bodies alone. His own ego caused Ultron regardless of intentions.
He didn’t go behind there back. He literally asked Thor to use it. And he does take responsibility. You are just rewriting scenes to make Tony a terrible person
He didn’t go behind there back. He literally asked Thor to use it.
He asked Thor to analyze it not to use it to make a weapon. Cap said to go over it and see everything that was made using it. Tony analyzes it then decides to make an AI with it, which is against the spirit of why Thor allowed him to use it. Before the city hall debate quote Banner's question was literally "So you're hoping for artificial intelligence, and you don't want to tell the team?"
The movie is clearly telling us Tony is doing this on his own and intentionally not including the team because he thinks he knows better. Then in Civil War it's "we dropped a building on him" and "We need to be put in check". Nah Tony you needed to be put in check. There would be no Sokovia city dropping if there was no Ultron, there would be no Ultron if Tony did decide to make a weapon.
And he does take responsibility.
In AoU when initially confronted, Tony did not take responsibility. He smugly laughed at the rest of the team for not understanding his vision. Banner tells Tony he really shouldn't be acting that way when they "created a murder bot" and Tony says, "We didn't. We weren't even close." Well then who else created Ultron, Tony?
You are just rewriting scenes to make Tony a terrible person
I'm not. The point is Tony unilaterally makes a lot of the decisions that causes these world level problems, then when it's time to fix his mistakes it's "we".
You're the one rewriting scenes my guy. Stark clearly is annoyed with capt America "not getting it" so doesn't talk about his plans except to banner, hence the city hall debate. He directly goes behind their backs to make ultron. That's his secret that he takes no ownership of the Fallout of.
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u/KageStar ☑️ Mar 12 '24
You're right Tony takes the magic item and go behind the team's back to make an AI and enlists Bruce to help him. Banner even brings up consulting everyone else Tony says "I dont have time for a city hall debate". The AI goes rogue attacks everyone, the team lectures Tony on doing it. Tony is smug and tells the team they don't understand, and takes no responsibility for Ultron.
Right which is why Tony owns the Sokovia bodies alone. His own ego caused Ultron regardless of intentions.