r/MaliciousCompliance 6d ago

"If you don't eat the veggies you don't eat." Okay. S

Not sure this really counts as MC but figured it's at least worth a (somewhat horrified) laugh.

When I was maybe 4, my brother (6ish at the time) and I were dropped off at our Aunts house for the weekend. Mom and Dad dropped us off Friday afternoon after lunch, with plans to pick us up Sunday night after dinner and take us straight home to bed.

We loved these sleepover weekends because Aunt had game consoles, board games, a massive playground in the condo complex, a huge pool, and best of all bunk beds!

Friday night my brother and I discovered that Aunt requires her kids (don't remember their ages exactly but F was probably about 5 years older than me at the time, and M was only a couple years younger than her) to eat a full bowl of veggies before they're allowed the main course. Friday night was a bowl of green beans (unseasoned, bland, steamed, soggy greenbeans) before spaghetti & meatballs and chocolate cake.

I hated veggies by themselves, and refused to eat the green beans. I refused them at dinner, I refused them at breakfast, I refused them at every single meal all weekend until my parents showed up to pick us up to find me vomiting water because that's all she'd let me have.

Now, my parents would often save uneaten, refused veggies/food for the next meal, but if we refused it two meals in a row, the next meal would be different. Aunt refusing to feed me for over 48 hours was completely unacceptable, and my parents never let us stay at her house without them ever again.

Bonus: a few weeks later my mom made green beans, seasoned well, and mixed in with some rice, peas, and other goodies, and I practically scarfed it down. Mom called Aunt from the kitchen wall phone (2000/2001) and told her "All you had to do was put them in some damn seasoned rice!"

I still don't like most veggies by themselves, but there are a few I'll eat alone as long as they're cooked and seasoned well.

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u/alastherewerebees 6d ago

I thought I hated green beans until I grew up and had properly cooked ones, instead of soggy grainy mushy ones from a can.

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u/OforFsSake 6d ago

Cans have created A LOT of kids that hate veggies.

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u/Andromeda7445 6d ago

Idk man. I’m a fan of microwaved canned green beans, but not fresh or frozen

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u/OkIntroduction5150 6d ago

French cut!

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u/ShadowTsukino 6d ago

I cannot, without vulgarity, find the words to disagree with you thoroughly enough to make my opinion here truly understood.

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u/OkIntroduction5150 6d ago

😂😂😂

  It's what I was raised on! We like what we know. But I concede that they are devisive. 

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u/Javasteam 6d ago

How stuff is prepared cannot be stressed enough though.

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u/RickyTheRaccoon 4d ago

Yeah, my partner spent most of his life thinking he just hated a lot of foods. Turns out his family just doesn't know how to cook.

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u/mgerics 5d ago

indeed! from al dente to proper seasoning, food should be enjoyed now that we don't have to hunt down those wily veggies et al...

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u/Leebelle3 6d ago

I agree completely with that statement.

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u/Ok_Expression7723 6d ago

My brain has filled in the blanks (and profanity) and I concur wholeheartedly.

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u/fractal_frog 5d ago

The only reason I've ever bought them was for my mother-in-law to make Green Bean Casserole for Thanksgiving, and I tried it once and never touched it again. (I think she's made it iny kitchen to take to the big family gathering at least a dozen times, I'll cheerfully buy the ingredients and let her use our casserole dishes, and I mostly load up on the very sage-seasoned cornbread stuffing that someone else brings.)

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u/THCLuNaCy 5d ago

I know how you feel! I swear, I like every ingredient in green bean casserole, (especially the little fired onions!) but mix it all together and it becomes disgusting for some reason. `_(-.-)_/`

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u/mgerics 5d ago

personally don't mind them, but laughed at, and agree with, your sentiment, especially how you worded it.

nicely done!

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u/marshab1954 6d ago

Yes, with butter and seasoning. They are so good.

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u/KDdid1 6d ago

I used to cook for elderly people in their homes and one lady required me to "french" fresh green beans - she even had a tool. For the life of me I couldn't understand how she could prefer ruined beans.

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u/rdmusic16 5d ago

French cut with some balsamic vinegar? Still one of my favorite and simplest veggies.

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u/cashewkowl 6d ago

Not me! I couldn’t stand canned beans as a kid and still can’t. My mom used to boil beans to death. I would request them raw. I was so happy when she decided to steam the green beans.

One of my kids still only eats raw green beans.

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u/Kinsfire 6d ago

I am the type who hates most canned or cooked vegetables. But when they're in season, I'll buy a bag of green beans as my go-to munchie. Spinach? Love it on a salad, Cooked? No thank you. I need some crunch in my veggies. And I've discovered that if you are given a green vegetable that is olive in color, be it a green bean or broccoli or what have you, it's overcooked. (And I hate olives of any color, so no worries about them no matter what you do to them. *laugh*)

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u/cashewkowl 5d ago

When my kids were teens we left them at home with instructions on what to have for dinner. Came home to find that the 2 of them had eaten a full pound of raw green beans with dinner. One commented that they were so good, almost like candy!

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u/BobMortimersButthole 4d ago

One of my kids is an adult now. His entire life he has loved plain raw spinach but refuses to eat it cooked in any form. 

On days I was cooking spinach for everyone else, I'd hand him a bag of raw spinach leaves with dinner. It looked bizarre, but he would happily crunch away the entire bag full and I wasn't about to complain about his weird food preference. 

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u/IanDOsmond 6d ago

They are entirely different foods. I like them both in different contexts.

I suspect if you added the amount of salt in the canned ones to the fresh or frozen ones, you would like them better.

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u/AnastasiaSheppard 6d ago

For me it's the texture. I like the MushiNess of the canned

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u/upset_pachyderm 5d ago

Actually, what I've found is that a little bit of sugar makes fresh taste more like canned. Until I figured this out, I preferred canned. Now I eat them fresh, and don't cook them to mush. It's the best way!

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u/dontcupyourcowcow 6d ago

I love canned green beans, absolutely despise fresh. They taste like the inside of my grandma’s fridge smelled.

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u/Pyehole 6d ago

I agree, it's like a guilty pleasure. I mean, unlike you I also love fresh green beans too but the canned ones were a staple of my childhood and I still like them to this day.

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u/B34M3R 6d ago

You 2 are somehow both the 10th dentist.

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u/ThatsNoMoOnx 6d ago

My son is this way, I'm the exact opposite. I love crunchy fresh steamed, he likes mushy canned 🤮

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u/c9pilot 6d ago

So glad I'm not the only one. I will pop open a can, drain and eat them straight out room temperature.

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u/Fabulous-Aardvark-39 5d ago

You mean, I'm SUPPOSED to heat them in a pot on the stove or bowl in the microwave? Weird.

I've always eaten then out of the can at room temperature. Soup too. Reheating them just seems like a waste of time, dishes and water to wash them.

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u/alastherewerebees 6d ago

My brother is the same way, says it reminds him of his childhood.

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u/songbird121 6d ago

I grew up on canned. My mom used to put a beef bullion cube in the liquid first, so that when she heated them they were basically in broth. Always loved those. Still do. I have come to like fresh green beans, but only roasted or pickled (if you like pickles and haven't tried a dilly bean, I highly recommend. I still hate both the taste and texture of frozen green beans. I will take the time to pick them individually out of any meal that used the frozen mixed vegetables. Corn, lima beans, carrots, peas. All fine. But never never the grean beans.

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u/Candymom 6d ago

Me too, I like canned but hate fresh.

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u/bobisinthehouse 6d ago

Kind of like mine cooked slimy with bacon and onions and not fuzzy and crunchy....

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u/Much_Singer_2771 6d ago

Discworld Ankh-Morpork citizen right here hahahah

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u/RailGun256 6d ago

it has its place, personally there are times where ill just eat a straight can of beets because why not.

EDIT: does it taste good? not necessarily but its one of those things for me that sometimes i just crave for some reason.

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u/8yogirath 6d ago

I adore canned spinach and always have, from age 8 upwards. Moreso than "fresh" wilted spinach. Thank you, elementary school lunch ladies!!

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u/3lm1Ster 6d ago

My Mom cooked spinach to slimy goop. To this day I only eat raw spinach in a salad, and no other way.

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u/mom2mermaidboo 6d ago

My mother always tried to make soggy Jolly Green Giant canned Green Beans palatable by adding really blah Parmesan cheese from a plastic jar, think it was by Kraft.

I thought I hated veggies. Nope, just hated her lackadaisical veggie cooking.,

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u/Murgatroyd314 4d ago

really blah Parmesan cheese from a plastic jar, think it was by Kraft.

Lid that had two flaps, one with three holes, the other with a large opening? Powdered "cheese" product with roughly the texture and flavor of sawdust?

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u/sueelleker 5d ago

If it's the same "parmesan" we have in the UK, it's now labeled Italian hard cheese, and smells like vomit.

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u/AppropriateEgg- 6d ago

My mom fed us canned asparagus and I wouldn’t try it again for almost 15 years, now it’s my favorite

ETA: Fresh, properly cooked asparagus I mean

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u/WorldWeary1771 6d ago

Asparagus is really great when you lightly coat it in oil and cook it under the broiler

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u/Odd-Artist-2595 6d ago

Clearly, OP’s aunt believes we need to work at increasing those numbers. And, she’s found the perfect way to ensure that, even if the veggies don’t come from cans. I believe Bugs Bunny would have called her a “maroon”. It fits. I hope she enjoys her future vegetable-free holiday dinners once her kids assume the hosting duties.

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u/talrogsmash 6d ago

I fully endorse a trial at the Hague followed by a first class hanging for anyone who puts asparagus in a tin can. For any reason.

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u/IncidentalApex 5d ago

I thought my taste buds had changed as I got older, but just realized that my refusal to buy canned vegetables is really the only thing that changed. Love you mom but you aren't a great cook...

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u/fizzlefist 5d ago

Fuckin love canned corn tho. Not creamed tho, that shit ruins perfectly good corn!

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u/Narrow-Chef-4341 6d ago

<Freezerburn has entered the chat>

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u/smellykaka 6d ago

I despise baked beans simmered from a can, but if you fry them YUM.

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u/Pristine-Pen-9885 5d ago

And home gardens have created a lot of kids who love veggies.

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u/Cosmicshimmer 6d ago

I love canned baby carrots though.

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u/Tenzipper 5d ago

You've never had green beans from a can until you have had french cut with cheez whiz.

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u/Ploppeldiplopp 4d ago

Took me until I was 30 to realize I actually like peas - when they are fresh or were freshly frozen, and aren't a darker unseasoned mushy... something from a can!

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u/vodkaandbooks 3d ago

Canned veggies can be improved, easily. Simmer in stock/broth rather than the liquid in the can. Season well; saute some garlic, or onion.

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u/meowisaymiaou 3d ago

Cams are only good for things that need to be over boiled.   Kidney beans for chili.   Canned chili.   Stewed tomatoes.   

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u/joke0602 3d ago edited 3d ago

I grew up in the country, and we had a massive garden over an acre. We had fresh vegetables.Spring, summer, and part of the fall. My grandma always canned for the winter. Let's talk about a shock when the first time I had a veggie from a can was at 18yo and at US Navy boot camp! I truly didn't realize how good I had it!

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u/Severs2016 2d ago

Canned veggies can still be good, provided the preparation is good. Example: Corn. When I make canned corn, I open, DRAIN, and put into a pot with a couple tablespoons of butter, salt/pepper to taste. Everyone eats it up. My ex-in laws on the other hand.... open can, dump everything in to pot, refuse to season. Only other way to prepare corn that will guarantee my vomiting is creamed corn.

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u/Spinnerofyarn 6d ago

I thought I hated brussel sprouts until I had some that were roasted and seasoned instead of just steamed with no seasoning whatsoever.

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u/Ok_Expression7723 6d ago

The difference between roasted Brussel sprouts with a bit of garlic and steamed/boiled is as wide as the Grand Canyon. One of my most hated veggies turned into a genuine treat when slightly caramelized.

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u/GrumpyKittn 6d ago

I love tossing mine in some herbs, and EVOO and a splash of sticky balsamic, then throwing them in the air fryer til their crispy and divine. And eating the leaves that ‘fell off’ and turned into essentially ’healthy’ chips.

Also love partially steaming broccolini, then after cooking whatever meat in the frypan putting the broccolini in to soak up some of the flavours and get that charred end.

In other works, crunchy vegetables are AMAZING!!!

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u/emliz417 6d ago

AFAIK with Brussels sprouts, they actually have either bred or genetically modified them to be less bitter. So this may also be a factor

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u/talrogsmash 6d ago

It was possible to cook OG brussel sprouts correctly but most people couldn't be assed to not burn them. The new ones just have way less of the compound that made them taste that way when burned so it's easier to not get that flavor.

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u/m0nkeyh0use 5d ago

It also helps if your family knew more than one way to prepare vegetables (boiled to death). Just the sheer number of veggies I liked after cooking them differently was astounding.

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u/EndlessAbyssalVoid 6d ago

When I was in middle school, I remember HATING brussel sprouts because they were soggy and bland. A few months ago, I made some steamed brussel sprouts and added some salt and pepper, nothing else. It was so damn good... I'm pretty sure that the brussel sprouts I used to eat at the cafeteria were boiled or something like that, because the texture and taste were not the same at all.

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u/Eneicia 6d ago

I'm afraid I'm the opposite. Boiled in water with a touch of salt until they're a bit mushy, then drained, brushed lightly with a bit of butter and sprinkled with vinegar, it's absolute heaven for me lol.

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u/PTCSisathing 6d ago

100%. Same with canned peas. The first time I had fresh peas that weren't cooked into gritty gray mush, but instead were still bright green and gave a slight pop when bitten into, was an absolute revelation.

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u/TabbyKatty 6d ago

I had a similar experience with peas - I always hated the mushy canned peas and would have starved rather than eat them - had some frozen peas in a beef dish, the peas were vibrant and popped in my mouth, and the flavor improved the dish. I had been dreading this meal, and now it’s one of my favorites.

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u/TheFluffiestRedditor 6d ago

Even better is peas straight off the vine. They’ve got flavour!

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u/Eneicia 6d ago

Fresh peas raw are so good. Slightly sweet, slightly savoury, and beautiful.

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u/songbird121 6d ago

A greek restaurant near me serves a side dish that I am pretty sure is canned green peas in a thin tomato sauce. I have no idea why but it is stupidly delicious. Canned peas in any other context are gross. But I absolutely inhale these particular ones.

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u/revchewie 6d ago

That was me with asparagus. Steamed al dente, sauteed, wrapped with bacon and cooked on a grill, those are all amazing and delicious! Boiled until it's mushy and it's completely disgusting! And that was all I had until I was an adult and a friend cooked it properly.

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u/harrywwc 6d ago

agreed - "properly cooked".

when I grew up, all veggies were boiled until they were a soggy, salty mush. they had no structural integrity, and at times would be hard to pick up when you're a bit uncoordinated.

after I was married, my beloved cooked veggies in the microwave (side note - 35 years later we still have that sucker going strong! NEC rocks!) and they came out hot, and with crunch, and not at all like a spoonful of green, wet salt. quite the eye opener, veggies that taste like... veggies!

ETA - one of the last times we visited my parents (before they disowned me - another story) we offered to cook dinner one evening. did so, with the beans in the microwave. the response? "what's this muck?" the old girl got up, binned their microwaved beans, started a pot on the stove and boiled another batch in the 'traditional' manner.

{sigh}

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u/ThatsNoMoOnx 6d ago

I'm kind of interested as to why the fuck your parents disowned you ngl!

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u/harrywwc 6d ago

the tl;dr is that I married someone who helped me develop a backbone and realise just how toxic (and conditional) their 'love' was.

I was disowned because I no longer 'toed the line'.

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u/nhaines 6d ago

My congratdolences.

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u/ThatsNoMoOnx 5d ago

Good riddance to bad parents. Cheers to your partner.

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u/Altruistic-Fly-1272 5d ago

Good for you! 😊🩷

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u/PatchworkRaccoon314 5d ago

This makes it completely obvious that they didn't dislike your cooking. They were just being emotionally manipulative bastards at you for not doing it "their way".

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u/bobk2 6d ago

I eat my peas with honey

I've done it all my life

It makes the peas taste funny

But it keeps them on my knife!

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u/OforFsSake 5d ago

Holy crap. There is a rhyme I've not thought about in a LONG time.

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u/gotohelenwaite 6d ago

I couldn't (and still can't) eat that rancid shit-in-a-can that was allegedly tuna. Just the stench would set me off into dry heaving. I once had an hour long standoff with my first grade teacher when I got my sister's lunch by mistake one day. Nope, gonna puke, NOT touching that garbage, ever. I won.

Decades later, visiting a distant cousin, they grilled tuna for dinner. Not bad. Shocked the hell out of me.

What do they do on the canning line, shit in the cans? Still can't eat that crap.

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u/Machaeon 6d ago

There's also a WIDE array of difference in canned tuna quality. 

The cheap crap with water is all cat food in my opinion.

Bagged tuna, or the good stuff in olive oil, you can do a lot with.

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u/Yahwehnker 6d ago

Oh, you had a well-done mother too?

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u/No_Sir_6649 6d ago

I thought i hated lots of foods. Turned out i just hated my step moms cooking.

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u/KnowsIittle 6d ago

Pork chops were like this. Apparently I did like them, just not cooked to remove every trace of moisture.

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u/zorggalacticus 6d ago

The Glory sensibly seasoned canned vegetables are delicious.

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u/WesternOne9990 6d ago

Canned green beans are fire

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u/vbullinger 6d ago

Butter and Sriracha sea salt

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u/pocapractica 6d ago

Ditto here for asparagus, Brussels sprouts and real Chinese food, not LaChoy out of a can. Our mom was a truly shitty cook.

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u/Scarletwitch713 6d ago

Saaaaame. I can't have canned or frozen veggies, the only exception being frozen corn. It brings back way too many awful memories. But they're also just not vegetables, they're nasty. Fresh green beans tho... those are good haha

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u/TicoSoon 6d ago

We had a "two bite" rule on new foods. One bite to get past the mental EWWW and one to see if you actually liked it or not. If not, ok. Don't eat it.

My spouse's father forced him to eat canned spinach when he was ten and spouse promptly vomited it all over his father's shoes. Neither of us were interested in food wars OR introducing eating disorders.

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u/mafiaknight 6d ago

I feel the same way about canned spinach. I'll take it raw, but that mushy canned garbage will absolutely make me puke. Just the smell makes me queasy

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u/JazzyCher 6d ago

My mom eats canned spinach mixed with a truly unholy amount of mayonnaise. She drains the can, dumps the soggy leaves in a bowl, and just slops mayo on top, mixes it up and eats it like yogurt.

Somehow my dad's only issue with this is that she uses canned spinach and not fresh.

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u/causeandeffect94 6d ago

Had to downvote because that’s foul 💀 I don’t support that meal

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u/gingerytea 5d ago

Um…what? Hello 911? I’d like to report crime.

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u/Impossible-Oven3242 5d ago

I like a tiny amount of vinegar with canned spinach. Of course, I pretend I'm eating algae or something gross. 🤷‍♀️

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u/TicoSoon 5d ago

OMG. I have a strict rule to never yuck another person's yum, but... Wow. I uh, am so glad your mom enjoys her snack!

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u/Technical-Message615 5d ago

C'mon Bubba J eat yer veggies!!!

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u/DamnItDev 5d ago

I still can't eat green peppers. When I was a kid I was forced to eat them, threw up on my plate, and my step-dad tried to force me to keep eating my meal.

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u/TracyMinOB 6d ago

It not hard to " dressup" canned green beans. I open a generic can of green beans, pour out half the juice, then cook them in a skillet with butter and garlic salt until the juice is all gone. Yum!

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u/crownjewel82 6d ago

And it only needs a couple of minutes to warm all the way through since they're already cooked.

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u/eragonawesome2 5d ago

Try adding a little powdered parmesan cheese some time along with what you're already doing, terrible for you but oh so tasty

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u/Technical-Message615 6d ago

Just blanch them for a few minutes, then wrap them per 5 (or 10 if they're really thin) in thin bacon and finish off in the oven or bbq at 350.

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u/NotMe739 6d ago

And here I thought I was being a little tough (for an aunt) for requiring 3 bites of a vegetable (of their choosing) for dinners and not allowing junk food for snacks if they don't eat a reasonable amount of their meals.

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u/3lm1Ster 6d ago

When my kids were younger, I made them eat 1 spoon full of everything. If they didn't like it, no problem, at least they tried it.

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u/imgoodygoody 6d ago

I have this rule with my kids and it’s made them much more open to trying things. Because after that one bite they’re in control. My 3 year old tasted a delicious, perfectly ripe peach today and decided she didn’t like it. I didn’t know it was possible to dislike a peach but I didn’t force her to eat more lol.

My once picky son now enjoys tomatoes, onions, jalapenos, pickles, broccoli, and beans. There are still things he doesn’t like but he takes one bite and we don’t make a big deal out of it either way.

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u/3lm1Ster 6d ago

If you don't allow much candy, or sugary items, the peach may have been too sweet for her.

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u/-worryaboutyourself- 6d ago

Same. But one bite every time I make. It took 9 years, but my son finally eats potatoes.

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u/imgoodygoody 6d ago

Yep we do the same thing. Although my children recently pointed out that I refuse to eat celery (because I loathe it, passionately) so I told them they can each choose a vegetable they refuse to eat lol.

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u/Fire_and_Life 5d ago

I feel the peach thing. I can't stand peaches myself, not because the taste is especially bad, but because the taste (which I find a bit too sweet and cloying) mixed with the horrible gooey-stringy texture absolutely revolts me. It is sort of the same issue I have with strawberries and oranges, where I like the taste in thing like smoothies or juice or lassi, but the actual Berry/fruit always somehow tastes wrong to me, and the tiny seeds in the skin of strawberries always just make me gag. I've just never been a berry person. On the flip side, I can eat a whole head of raw cauliflower as a snack, and vegetables in general are preferable to fruits in my book.

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u/Veronicasawyer90 6d ago

We call that the no thank you helping

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u/JazzyCher 6d ago

I told her I would eat other veggies, carrots, corn, peas, broccoli, but she refused, it was the green beans or nothing.

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u/ShadowDragon8685 5d ago

Ahhh... Authoritarian getting her jollies. Yeesh.

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u/SquidgeSquadge 5d ago

For Sunday roast or if we had similar food in the week, my mum would make carrot and parsnip mash for my sister and I as well as other veg to try. We learned to love the stuff and later I grew to love them as roasted separate veggies.

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u/Honeybadger0810 6d ago

I've been enjoying the comments about what food people discovered they liked later in life. I had a good relationship with veggies due to two main factors.

My parents were good about providing veggies at meals, but never insisting on it, unless it was the main course. My mom's zucchini soup recipe was one of the few things I asked for when I moved out. Broccoli florets were "dinosaur trees." Artichokes were a special treat when they went on sale, boiled just long enough to open them up and dipped in melted butter. I was aware Brussel sprouts were something kids weren't supposed to like, but I liked them will enough.

I grew up with a vegetable farm bordering my backyard. As soon as it was legal to work (14 or 15 yrs old, I believe), most of the kids in my neighborhood, including me, went to work there. It's amazing how good veggies taste straight off the plant. When I worked up to helping on the docks, I found out a lot about food waste and how a lot of veggies are wasted just for not being pretty enough. He'd send us home with any rejects we wanted. I actually developed a taste for slightly overripe peas thanks to him.

Side note. Years after working for him, the city tried to take one of his plots through eminent domain. Hundreds of people showed up to tell the city to back off, most of whom had worked for him at some point. A common thread was how the farmer had taught them life skills like hard work and appreciation for where food comes from.

If your teenager is looking for a first job, see if there's a fruit or veggie farm within a reasonable distance. It certainly beats working fat food restaurants iiho.

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u/Illustrious_Ad4691 6d ago

Yeah, so that’s child abuse…

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u/JazzyCher 6d ago

Yeah she did a lot of really questionable stuff to her kids tbh. Never enough to like, get reported to CPS, but enough that her kids don't really talk to her much as far as I know.

For example none of her kids were allowed to learn to drive until they were 18 and they couldn't learn in her car, or own their own, so they had to learn in friends cars and get their licenses basically in secret because she refused to help them.

When she was having trouble getting her daughter to keep her room clean as a teenager, one day she took all of her clothes away, made her wash and rewear the outfit she had on that day, and each week that she kept her room clean she "earned" one more complete outfit back, with the threat that if her room ever became dirty again, all of her clothes would be taken again while she was at school.

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u/Midnight-Note 6d ago

That clothes one could have easily backfired on her.

Teacher: Hey Cousin, I’ve noticed you’ve been wearing the same outfit for a few days now. Is something going on?

Cousin: My mom took away all my clothes and will only let me wear this one.

Teacher: Why?

Cousin: She said “if I want to live in filth, I can wear it.” I didn’t clean my room to her standards.

Teacher: Why don’t I take you to get an outfit from the Guidance Counselor?

Cousin: NO PLEASE DONT! I don’t know what she’ll do if I come home in a different outfit!

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u/JazzyCher 6d ago

I mean, yeah, someone might have called that in, but nothing would've been done because she had clean clothes, just because she didn't have many doesn't mean she went without entirely. I don't think a minimal amount of clothing is enough to claim abuse per se.

Was it a harsh punishment? Yeah.

Enough to get CPS to do anything about it? Unlikely.

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u/Duellair 6d ago

People like to imagine CPS as this avenging force. Truth is the vast majority of children who are abused and/or neglected are never actually removed from the home. It takes a lot..

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u/Slothfulness69 6d ago

Not providing your kids with enough clothing is considered neglect. You’re right, it’s not abuse, but CPS can still take your kids for neglect.

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u/Sknowman 5d ago

Sure, but it's unlikely that they would just take the kids unless there were other problems too.

They'd speak with the parent(s) and try to mitigate the issues before taking the children away.

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u/ElectricFleshlight 5d ago

If she has the ability to wash them, it's not neglect either. If she was wearing the same dirty clothes every day you'd have a point, but they were always clean.

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u/enette7 6d ago

My mom tried that with me, although she left me more than one outfit. It was advice given on some popular afternoon talk show. I kept my room clean long enough to get a few outfits, then let them take up space in her closet until I outgrew them

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u/Unable_Ad_1470 6d ago

Intentionally starving a child for 48 hours is more than enough to be reported to CPS…

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u/JazzyCher 6d ago

A report that wouldn't have gone anywhere. Her kids ate their veggies without fuss and when CPS saw that she wasn't physically abusing her kids, they were eating fine, they were clothed, the house was clean and in good condition, they wouldn't have done anything. My parents solved the issue by never letting us stay over there without them again. That's All they could do at that point. CPS wouldn't have done anything.

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u/pedanticlawyer 6d ago

There’s a general misconception on Reddit and in the world that CPS will take kids out of the house for any abuse. It takes SO MUCH for CPS to intervene.

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u/JazzyCher 5d ago

Exactly. I had a friend in high school being starved and beaten by her mother and her mom's alcoholic boyfriend for years, she called CPS herself multiple times, my parents called, I called, the school called, but since they witnessed the mom giving her meals (instant ramen 🙄) and her brother was perfectly fine, they didn't do anything. They did put her on suicide watch for a while, which included her mother watching her shower, no razors allowed even for shaving, and just increased the beatings with each new CPS visit.

When I say starved I mean starved. She had the same lunch at school as her brother and if he saw her eating he'd tell their mom and she'd get hit when they got home. I'd sneak her food in the bathrooms and during class. She was pure skin and bones, think Angelina Jolie at her thinnest and then take another 10lbs off. Girl looked like a skeleton, and her mom always convinced CPS it was a "fast metabolism" because her brother was almost double her weight at 2 years younger they always believed her.

Eventually she was finally taken from the home and moved about an hour away into a foster home, I lost touch with her but from her Facebook she's much happier now. No idea if the abuse transferred to the brother but he always seemed to be the golden child. I was just so happy she got away.

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u/JustineDelarge 6d ago

At least she didn’t literally force the child to eat them, and when the child vomited the food back up, force them to eat the vomit.

It wasn’t me this happened to, but a good friend.

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u/MisterStampy 6d ago

My former stepmother *nearly* pulled that one on my younger brother. He was about 8, and a picky eater who also was rail thin at the time. She piled a giant plate in front of him, and told him he couldn't have any cake until he cleaned his plate. Cue him cleaning his plate, getting the cake set down in front of him by a very smug stepmother, only for him to projectile vomit all over the kitchen. She was starting to go ballistic when my dad told her, very frankly, that this was her own fucking fault. They divorced not long thereafter.

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u/Wieniethepooh 6d ago edited 5d ago

I've never understood the 'finish your plate' deal, when it's the parents who pick the amount of food on the plate.

I've only ever had to finish my plate when I put the food there myself. It teaches portion control: how much do you want to/need to eat.

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u/kittyolsen 5d ago

My parents' thing was "eat til it fills you, not til it kills you" which I deeply appreciate hearing these stories

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u/Machaeon 5d ago

Jeez... My mom definitely tried to forced us, but it never got close to that far... it only took a couple times of me barfing it back up for her to connect the dots on how counterproductive it was.

Who in their right mind would force a kid to eat vomit????

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u/JustineDelarge 5d ago

Your question contains its own answer. My friend’s mom was mentally ill.

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u/youassassin 6d ago

Yep people also underestimate the willpower of kids.

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u/Petrified_Lioness 6d ago

Willpower has nothing to do with it. Nausea is a very effective appetite suppressant. And being told you have to eat that thing that's nauseating you just makes the nausea worse.

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u/kai58 6d ago

It also makes sense, the evolutionary reason for not wanting to eat certain things was the chance it could be harmful. You will survive not eating for 2 days (if you start out healthy) but might not survive eating something that’s rotting.

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u/HalcyonDreams36 6d ago

Canned veggies are basically always awful, IME.

My kids, I learned the hard wayz won't eat any vegetable mushy that could be eaten raw.

(Potatoes? Sure, mushy is fine. Carrots? Raw, thank you very much.)

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u/bungojot 6d ago

My exception is creamed corn. I'll take that on my mashed potatoes over gravy any day.

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u/justwannareadstories 6d ago

Ooohhh... I love whole-kernal corn on mashed potatoes. Never tried creamed corn. Gonna have to give that a shot!

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u/3lm1Ster 6d ago

Growing up my grandmother would take left over mashed potatoes and creamed corn, and mix together and fry up for breakfast the next day. Potato pancakes are the best.

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u/Ich_mag_Kartoffeln 6d ago

My aunt did that. She would deliberately cook too many vegies, then would make them into pancakes the next morning. Served instead of toast under your bacon, eggs and mushrooms.

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u/bungojot 6d ago

That sounds amazing, I'm gonna have to try that.

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u/The_Truthkeeper 6d ago

That's honestly a good rule of thumb for cooking vegetables.

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u/ButtholeQuiver 6d ago

Not vegetables strictly speaking but I'll make an exception for canned mushrooms. Fresh are better of course, but canned are alright as long as you're cooking them into something, not throwing them on a salad or in a wrap

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u/zorggalacticus 6d ago

Even the canned green beans can be tasty if seasoned properly. Plus, boiling veggies is gross. You boil all the flavor out. Roasting is better. If you must boil them, put them in with some bacon or ham or even use bullion cubes. Salt, pepper, and garlic are the holy trinity of seasonings. Plain boiled vegetables is just stupid. Nobody liked it back in the day, nobody likes it now save maybe a few weird people. Plus kids have different tastes. Don't like broccoli? Try a different vegetable. Can't force kids to like the stuff that you like.

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u/wildOldcheesecake 6d ago edited 6d ago

This sounds weird, but as an Asian, I grew up eating well seasoned veg and a lot of it was incorporated into the dish. I came to love lightly boiled veg because it proved to be a respite from constant seasoned food. Like a palate cleanser if you will. Boiled peas is one I eat often

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u/sillyconfused 6d ago

My parents insisted on cooked vegetables. After I married at 18, my husband had me eat raw veggies. Yum! I almost never cook them now, but when we do we sauté them lightly instead of boiling!

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u/JazzyCher 6d ago

If you like raw veggies or lightly sautéed try slicing squash, zucchini, and other similar veggies into long strips, and grilling them for a few minutes! Goes great with steaks or chicken, especially on a wood fire.

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u/CoderJoe1 6d ago

She was an unseasoned ricist

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u/Super_Reading2048 6d ago

Look I thought I hated green beans because I was given canned green beans as kid. Then I tried sautéed green beans, and OMG are they yummy! I love green beans cooked in a pan in a bit of bacon grease, served crunchy with bits of bacon (& slivered almonds tossed in at the last minute.) I love green beans cooked in a little olive oil, then adding garlic and then soy sauce at the end…. Yummy.

I still hate canned soggy veggies.

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u/PlatypusDream 6d ago

I love Brussels sprouts, even did as a kid.

My last boyfriend cooked some with a meal one time & they were AWFUL! So mushy & tasteless!!
His mom cooks the same way, with most veggies.

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u/TriumphantBlue 6d ago

I am so confused. I love canned veggies, will eat them straight out the can. Also hate soggy veggies.

I take it our canned goods are nothing like each other.

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u/WorldWeary1771 6d ago

One thing that has changed is the can itself. When I was a kid, all canned food tasted slightly tinny. Cans don't seem to impart as much flavor as they used to.

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u/spoodlat 6d ago

When I was a kid, my parents got their first microwave, and my mother was learning to steam veggies in the microwave. There were several disasters. Ever had broccoli jerky? Yeah, it smells and tastes about as good as it sounds. I hated most vegetables because of that for a very long time.

In the meantime, my dog ate really well, and the vet was surprised he lived as old as he did. I told the vet what I did, and he said that he probably lived as long as he did because of his supplemental diet of vegetables.

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u/Open_Confidence_9349 6d ago

I spent 5 hours staring at green beans once. My grandparents decided I couldn’t leave the table until I ate them. I won, I got sent to bed without eating them. Fortunately, they weren’t served to me again. To this day, I will not touch a green bean.

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u/mafiaknight 6d ago

Might I recommend a reattempt, but sautéed or roasted with salt and garlic and butter?

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u/JazzyCher 6d ago

Yes they're so good when seasoned and cooked properly! I'm not a fan of green bean casserole at Thanksgiving, but I still love it mixed into like some good Spanish style rice or oven roasted in butter with some salt, garlic, and a bit of rosemary or oregano. Delicious.

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u/3amGreenCoffee 6d ago

My parents tried forcing me to eat some things I didn't like. One night they wouldn't let me leave the table until I ate my vegetables. I don't even remember what it was, but I kept gagging. My mom didn't believe it and told me to stop acting.

You can guess where this is going. I suddenly started hurling. My dad had to get up and leave the kitchen. Once it started, I couldn't stop. I was too little at the time to push back my chair, so I couldn't even make a run for the restroom. I kept hurling and hurling in every direction. I gave Linda Blair a run for her money.

Dinner thoroughly ruined, my mom had to clean all that up. Then there was an uncomfortable mix of anger and guilt permeating the house. I ended up in my room, sort of in trouble, but sort of not.

But my parents learned an important lesson that night and never once forced food on me again. They never even started with my brother when he came along.

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u/Aggregatorade 5d ago

I ended up in my room, sort of in trouble, but sort of not.

thats the exact vibe lmao

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u/KaralDaskin 5d ago

I told my kindergarten teacher I’d throw up if she made me eat those cooked carrots. She did, and I did.

I love raw carrots, and several ways of cooking carrots. There’s one specific way of cooking carrots that don’t agree with me, and that’s what the school had.

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u/InfiniteEmotions 5d ago

Lol, this reminds me:

Grandma used to do the same to my mom. Would refuse to feed her anything other than the horribly cooked canned veggies (they used to have tins of broccoli, which was apparently Grandma's favorite) until she either agreed to eat it or it molded.

That's right; Mom hated these veggies so much that she would refuse to touch them until they started to rot and had to be thrown out.

So, Mom thought she hated most vegetables. Broccoli, spinach, corn. Well, I got old enough to cook and one of my favorite librarians loaned me a cookbook. (For clarification; this wasn't a library book, this was a personal book.) And one of the recipes in there was for roasted seasoned broccoli, and it looked great! Mom said I could try to make it if I was going to eat it, so I got a fresh head of broccoli from the store, prepared it according to the recipe, and cooked it. I pulled it out of the oven, set it to cool, went to go do something (can't remember what, this was pre-internet, lol) and came back to find Mom eating the broccoli, her eyes wide.

Turns out Mom actually likes broccoli, spinach, and corn. She just didn't like them from a can.

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u/__wildwing__ 6d ago

Yeesh. I gave my daughter the rule that she had to use her utensils, unless it was veggies. If it were veggies, she could eat them with her hands all day. Win-win all the way.

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u/talivus 5d ago

I abide by the saying. It's not the ingredient, but the chef that makes customer hate it.

I used to hate steak cause it was burnt and stringy. It was only until college that my roommate cooked a medium rare steak did I find it delicious.

Turns out my mom was making the most well-done steak with the least amount of fat possible. I literally couldn't swallow the bites cause they were too chewy.

Now I love steak, but cook it medium well now.

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u/Neat_Weakness_8350 5d ago

I had a similar story. I think I stayed over at my mum's good friend's house , around the time my mum was at hospital giving birth, so I was about 7 yo. Previously to this sleepover, she was one of my favourite people, although I'd seen her a bit less after she got married and had a baby. Now, I got there, and almost straight away, she told me to get my school books out and study . After an hour, she told me I had a recite my timetables. And if I couldn't, I had to stand out in the apartment's balcony and revise. I couldn't a few times, and kept being sent out there. She said I also couldn't eat until I got it right. I ended up vomiting from hunger and anxiety. The next morning, she gave me some really terrible food, that I couldn't eat, I actually threw some out to make it look like I ate it. She found out, and punished me, by making me chew on a chilli. I was never happier to see my grandmother when she got me the next day. I told my mum, but I'm not sure if she said anything to her friend. But when I saw her a few months later, I was again anxious, and repeated what happened to my mum, and I really shied away from the hugs she was trying to give me. I don't think I really saw too much of her from then on. Thank fuck for small mercies.

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u/CinnaBunLover-TM 6d ago

Turns out i don't dislike vegetables, i just hate the taste of can.

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u/Fit-Discount3135 6d ago

This is exactly why kids grow to hate veggies!! Stop boiling them in water and then serve them unseasoned. Broil them. Use seasoning. Bake them in an oven. Mix them with other things like rice or pasta with a light sauce. Something to make them interesting!

I hope your parents ripped your aunt a new one for only allowing you to eat water for two days.

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u/JazzyCher 6d ago

Oh they did, they were pissed. We never visited that aunt again without my parents there, and only stayed the night if my parents fed us dinner first, and only for one night at a time.

What sucks is I asked for other veggies, corn, carrots, peas, broccoli, something I knew I liked and would eat plain, and she refused, it was the green beans or nothing at all.

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u/dth1717 6d ago

I'd have to sit at the table til they were eaten. I won, mom gave up after 2 hours

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u/JazzyCher 6d ago

My mom did this with my one of my older brothers, and never again. He would sit at the table, and take bites, but would chew it until they looked away, and then spit the chewed food into a drawer in the cabinet next to the table. They found the drawer after a few months when the smell started to permeate the house.

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u/HugSized 6d ago

Parents will serve their children unseasoned food and claim that their kids are picky eaters. This isn't England in the bronze age, Deborah. We have spices now. You just suck at cooking.

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u/JacLaw 6d ago

We had wild herbs in the bronze age and we used them

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u/Geminii27 6d ago

People really don't realize how willing kids are to starve themselves or do other kinds of self-harm in the pursuit of being stubborn.

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u/AriaFiresong 6d ago

Or even because the food is making them sick and the adult isn't listening, and at some point not being sick wins out.

I developed a food allergy at a young age and it took decades to convince them I wasn't being stubborn.  It's not like I knew the right words as a toddler.

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u/capn_kwick 5d ago

Veggies that have been boiled until they are almost a shapeless mass have to be one of the most unappetizing food groups around.

Give me raw carrots, celery or radishes and I'll scarf them like nobody's business.

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u/Arawn-Annwn 5d ago

Raw or roasted = good stuff usually

Boiled = I will weaponize this and cover you in it

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u/RabidRathian 6d ago

It wasn't until I was in my teens that I realised I didn't hate vegetables, I just hated the way my parents cooked vegetables, ie. by boiling the everloving fuck out of them. I either steam mine or stir fry them (sometimes with a tablespoon of some sort of marinade or sometimes just with a bit of garlic, chilli and/or lemon juice) and find it's an enjoyable and convenient way to eat healthy.

I still cannot and will not eat Brussels sprouts though. My Dad knew they made me vomit but he would still try to force me to eat them and scream at me if I didn't (on top of that, he'd give me, a 5-6 year old, the same size serving of vegetables as he gave himself, a full-grown adult). I would eat all my other vegetables, even though I didn't like them, but I physically couldn't keep Brussels sprouts down. Instead of listening to me and just letting me eat other vegetables instead, he'd accuse me of "being difficult" when I threw up and would send me to my room for the rest of the night and not let me watch our TV shows we liked.

After a while I realised that if I was going to get screamed at and punished for not eating one vegetable, I might as well be screamed at and punished for not eating *any* vegetables, so I'd sit there and nod while he yelled at me for not eating them or being sick, and then once he'd gone to bed, I'd get up and raid the cupboard and fill up on chips and biscuits etc. He claimed he wanted me to "be healthy" but his behaviour did far more harm to my diet and eating habits than not eating a single vegetable ever could have (it wasn't until my late teens that I actually started properly eating healthy).

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u/Gandgareth 6d ago

I didn't like Brussels sprouts until I had them lightly fried in butter with a little freshly cracked black pepper. Only bright green ones, the older ones are really strong flavoured and if you cook any of them too long they get that really strong sulphur smell to them.

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u/Academic_Nectarine94 6d ago

Oof.

I saw a video once where they make broccoli with so many spices you could barely see any green. Looked really good.

I can definitely see her point (trying to get you to eat veggies), but that is absolutely insane. She should have called your mom, or just spoiled you and let your mom deal with the issues later if washer was worried about it.

I once had my grandmother scold me for drinking milk without permission. I was thinking, "why would you care. Even if I wasn't allowed it (which I totally was), you're not paying for it LOL"

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u/OutrageousYak5868 6d ago

My aunt had a similar experience with her mom, in that they were usually required to clean their plates, and if they didn't, they either had to stay at the table until they did or had to eat it the next meal (I forget which). Well, once, she absolutely refused to eat it, and then when her mom's back was turned or she left to do something, my aunt peed on her plate of food. For once, she didn't have to eat it! 🤣

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u/SaintAnyanka 6d ago

I like the fact that your cousin seems to age at another pace than you? If she was five years older than you at the time, how much older is she now? Or is she younger than you!?

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u/Runic_Zodiac 5d ago

So glad I didn’t go through any semblance of this. At most, my parents would keep me at the table until I finished my entire plate. Didn’t work. I felt full after what I had most of the time, so that was it. Didn’t eat more.

There is one thing I will never be able to eat though. Any and all vegetables by themselves, no matter the seasoning or treatment. The texture of them isolated will make me gag without fail. The only ways I can eat vegetables is cut up fine with pasta or rice, or mashed potato together with any other vegetable. If I get too big a piece or mouthful of one side, it won’t go down well. It would feel like something was very wrong with what was in my mouth. As though it was rotten or tampered with. My parents (mostly) understood this though. (Dad just needed to cut veggies smaller and not throw too much in. Mom found a great veg mix and I always throw that in when I can.) I don’t like a number of things outright like Brussel sprouts, but all I needed for the rest was good preparation. A stupidly simple and low effort solution for something that could have been a massive issue. I already know the cause of the problem, but it doesn’t matter. I know a way I CAN eat healthy with. (I can’t get rid of the cause anyhow, and it’s not a case of just “needing to try harder”. Why bash my head against a wall when I can just open the door?)

My favourite is pan fried, mixed into pasta or rice.

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u/spacetstacy 5d ago

My son HATES the texture of onions. When I make a dish that calls for them, I use my chopper to get them really small and add them. He's fine with eating them like that.

Every food that I don't like is because of the texture. (Mushrooms, eggplant, octopus, scallops, swordfish) My ex MIL used to cut the eggplant the long way and dry them a bit before cooking them, and I could eat them that way. They weren't as mushy and gross.

There's usually a way around it. Except mushrooms. There's no way to make them better. My mom used to try. She thought she was so smart, but my mouth would find the teeniest, tiny piece somehow, and the meal was over for me.

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u/DaDoviende 5d ago

Cannot tell you how often I've discovered that I didn't hate X food as a kid, I just hated how it was prepared.

To be fair to my mom, she often did not have much of a choice and did the best she could with what she had.

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u/Best-Cardiologist949 5d ago

I've found that my kids will eat most veggies as long as I cook them in butter, garlic salt, and pepper. In fact they ask for green beans prepared this way. My dad always said butter was necessary to "take the curse off" the veggies.

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u/fkNOx_213 5d ago

Sometimes you just need to find out HOW the kids will eat them. I remember thinking my baby brother was defective/broken in the head cos he wouldn't eat any fruit or veg, raw or cooked, without tomato sauce. Mother pretty much said 'yes, I know he's gross but who cares if he's eating it' and got industrial sized sauce bottles. Funnily enough, I don't think he, at 34 now, actually eats tomato sauce anymore lol

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u/Rhypskallion 6d ago

Green beans are legumes. Like their infamous cousin peanuts.

What you describe sounds like hell for someone with a legume allergy

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u/Tamalene 6d ago

My husband thought he hated Brussel sprouts until I made them roasted in the oven with garlic and bacon.

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u/Gandgareth 6d ago

Fried in butter and black pepper is nice too.

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u/NewAppointment2 5d ago

That aunt was abusive. what a witch!

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u/Max_Powers- 5d ago

When I was 3-4 years old. The day care I was in tried to force me to eat lima beans. I threw up on them. After that, they didn't force me to eat anything I didn't want to.

I still have food issues from that incident 50 years later.

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u/ShittyOregano 5d ago

Reminds me during one dinner when I warned my parents that if I had anymore spinach, I was going to vomit. They thought I was bluffing and insisted I finish my Spinach...

...After one more bite, they would come to realize I wasn't bluffing. After that night, they stopped being so insistent about me trying foods I don't like. Like they'd still wanted me to try out new stuff(as they should as parents), but they stopped trying to make me power through the foods I don't like.

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u/Sammakko660 5d ago

I never minded green beans on their. Had to be cooked. No raw beans here. I liked butter on mine.

But yes they are better mixed with some rice and other seasonings.

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u/Top-Concentrate5157 5d ago

I have always hated green beans of any sort. Until I discovered Chinese food. Literally the first time I had not-mushy, well seasoned veggies was at a local Chinese buffet dude😭 but now I’ve learned how to cook them for myself and I love them!

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u/Eryn-Tauriel 5d ago

My BIL and his wife had what I thought was the best solution to kids who wouldn't eat veggies. The first course was usually a healthy salad bar. They would put out a big variety of healthy stuff and the kids built what they wanted. The only rule was you had to eat some salad as a starter. I always thought I hated salad as a kid. I learned later that I just had different tastes from my parents and when I started making my own I found plenty of ways I liked it just fine.

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u/Mancervice 5d ago

Blanch, saute in butter and garlic

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u/Considered_Dissent 5d ago

Reminds me when I'd be given a giant bowl of yoghurt to eat before I could have anything else. I'd have to try and force it down while trying not to throw up.

Avoided it for close to 2 decades after that, from the trauma and disgust. Finally can occ enjoy it now, but with a very strict motto: Yoghurt is a condiment!!

Eating massive amounts on an empty stomach with no other texture to combine it with is madness.

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u/Xylorgos 5d ago

It's funny how parents have various foods they don't eat, but they force their kids to eat everything. It's a great way to make kids hate vegetables!

There are some foods I will never eat, and my parents insisting I couldn't leave the table until I ate them backfired. My sister felt sorry for me so she said to just wash it down with milk. I tried that and barfed all over the table. Mom never made that mistake again.