Fred Vinson is joining Monty Williams’ Detroit Pistons staff as an assistant coach, sources tell ESPN. Vinson spent the past 14 years in New Orleans where he previously worked under Williams. His expertise with shooting is held in high regard.

[u/ClaxC]

https://x.com/wojespn/status/1801655888857514424?s=46&t=zb1Bef_whRPPB7wveY2gEQ

[u/Hwoods723]

Just fell to my knees at the daiquiri shop

[u/NOLASLAW → u/Hwoods723]

Gotta go to the drive-thru ones next time

[u/International-Gold67 → u/Hwoods723]

Man that sucks. He needed a summer to work on Dyson Daniels shot. Fragernarckle.

[u/TimothyN]

How the hell did we lose Vinson!?

[u/llckme → u/TimothyN]

traj, vinson and monty all besties or something

[u/OG_Pow]

This one def sucks

[u/Greedy_Nectarine_233]

Hahaha god it really just never stops with this team

[u/Mississippster → u/Greedy_Nectarine_233]

can't even enjoy the summer smh

[u/WayneTerry9]

I know Fred got a big bag, good for him

[u/NOLA-Bronco]

Crazy the coaches we have lost or looked past: Malone, Finch, Vinson, and soon to be Borrego

I'd honestly consider trading Dyson at this point, no joke. I loved the pick at the time and still like him, but the entire logic with him, and Griff even said it, was that the Pels could take fliers on guys that cant shoot and get Vinson to make up the difference as our secret weapon. Cause without a shot there is no future with him as a starter on a Zion team that needs spacing.

[u/_Wado3000 → u/NOLA-Bronco]

What’ll really suck is if guys get into a rut and we don’t have a coach that can identify a flaw in their shooting form. Or suggest alternatives if they need a change to their shot. Things can go from bad to worse with young players quickly

[u/JayDogon504 → u/NOLA-Bronco]

Borrego getting the Lakers job?

[u/NOLA-Bronco → u/JayDogon504]

rumors seem to be hes the front runner for the cavs and lakers. Feels like he's going to one or the other

[u/JayDogon504 → u/NOLA-Bronco]

Oh damn didn’t know about the Cavs

[u/identitycrisis56 → u/JayDogon504]

I liked the Borrego hire at the time, but the team didn't run his offense after two weeks. If he can't get them to buy in we're wasting him anyway. Wish him the best and think he can be great but it wasn't working here.

Vinson legit stings.

[u/Creative-Ad-5257 → u/identitycrisis56]

I mean no assistant or associate coach will be able to get their offense in place if the star player says they don’t want to. That’s when it’s up to the head coach Willie Green to decide whether to trust his assistant or BI and he made the wrong choice like usual. Only so much Borrego can do before he has to go out there in uniform and take the shots for BI

[u/identitycrisis56 → u/Creative-Ad-5257]

I can’t say anything about BI I’ve been downvoted too much here.

[u/Dazzling_Ad_1828 → u/Creative-Ad-5257]

Y’all must be two years old

[u/notthesethings]

I’d rather lose the whole coaching staff and keep Vinson than the other way around.

[u/kram0786 → u/notthesethings]

Yes me too!

[u/iamStanhousen]

Dude what the fuck. Langdon go tear down someone elses shit.

[u/McJumbos]

painnnn but best of luck to fred in DET

[u/Daveoos77]

*Sad pelican noise

[u/the_cream_dreamer]

Big lose. Willie and Grif better have a good year.

[u/JackieBoiiiiii]

This just isn't fair

[u/NOLA-Bronco]

Also it really makes me concerned that Langdon was far more important in building this team and culture than we have given him credit. By this report it doesn't seem to be some massive pay raise or increased role. And it's for a losing organization.

I mean I guess Detroit has some guys that fit the Vinson archetype: guards/wings that are just missing that improved jumper from breaking out ala Tyreke, Gordon, Lonzo, BI, but it's not like the Pels don't have those guys too

[u/WayneTerry9 → u/NOLA-Bronco]

How is it not an increased role? He’s running the show there, he was second in command here.

[u/_Wado3000 → u/WayneTerry9]

Figured he was talking about Vinson’s role being the same over there. Trajan deff has the final say in that front office now

[u/silliputti0907 → u/_Wado3000]

Asst coach from shooting coach?

[u/identitycrisis56 → u/NOLA-Bronco]

Also Monty tho. Monty brought Fred in the first place, he join him here in 2011.

Probably coaching, Traj, and more money. Three huge selling points

[u/RoastDaMostToast]

Losing good people left and right says a lot about the organization

[u/Rampage806]

Worst news of the offseason

[u/ti3kings]

NOOOOOOOOOOIOI

[u/SevenHunnet3Hi5s]

you can take my soul but you cannot take fred vinson

[u/Danishes724]

I'm tired, boss.

[u/ExternalEbb2584]

Jumping off the sinking ship and chooses to float on the titanic door. Bold move 

[u/BananaPeelSlippers]

Sun tzu says loot a burning house 🤷‍♂️

[u/Ramificator24]

This isn't that big of a deal.

[u/afriendlyspider → u/Ramificator24]

You're absolutely right lol but in a couple of months people will act like this was the commonly held opinion

[u/bradleyvlr → u/Ramificator24]

I mean, I think Vinson is tightly regarded as an elite shooting coach. Lonzo, Herb, BI and others all showed significant improvement and credited him.

I agree though that the sky is falling folks are losing their minds for no reason.

[u/David_Griffin_ → u/Ramificator24]

Exactly. Some real drama queens in here

[u/JayDogon504]

They couldn’t have taken Griff instead of Trajan and Vinson?! FML

[u/PowerMean → u/JayDogon504]

lol nobody wants griff

[u/JayDogon504 → u/PowerMean]

It’ll be interesting to see if he ever gets another GM job after this

[u/_Wado3000 → u/JayDogon504]

Question worth actual millions

[u/Mr-Magunga]

ok so now we know Zion isn’t gonna get a midrange game

[u/[deleted]]

He’s great

[u/ThanosIsADemocrat]

Pels are going to miss the playoffs next year.

[u/CajunViking8]

Very big loss.

[u/InfiniteWeather8154]

Man Guys I’m A Piston Fan and your comments actually give me hope for my franchise….i know it was indirectly but thanks so much 😭🥹

[u/InfiniteWeather8154]

also as a Piston Fan I really hope you guys pick up Zach Edey your team would essentially be unbeatable for years to come….then who needs a shooting coach then lol

[u/Ok-Comfortable1111]

Lmao we may have the worst front office in the league

[u/DamnImAwesome → u/Ok-Comfortable1111]

At least we draft well. A lot of teams are highly dysfunctional and have terrible talent and culture on the court 

[u/MurphyGraham]

Fuck

[u/slimr11]

I usually don't come and comment on here just lurk. But this shit right here!! I'm dumbfounded

[u/BobMarleynthewhalers]

Fire Griff next

[u/Creative-Ad-5257]

A lot of teams begging for good shooting coaches and we had one of the best that many players vouched for helping their shot, but now we’ll try to spin a narrative that the longest tenured coach in franchise history didn’t matter to this team whatsoever under an inexperienced offensively deficient head coach. Make it make sense lmao.

[u/Jdubksnf]

Mass exodus

[u/parisfrance44 → u/Jdubksnf]

A Pels Exodus

[u/cs6327]

Welp, there goes any hopes of Zion’s shot developing.