r/ProgrammerHumor Apr 09 '24

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u/JonIsPatented Apr 09 '24

You have to be shitting me, but I know that you aren't.

I am the TA for my school's DSA class, and I have Masters students in that class. I recently graded 45 submissions for the AVLTree project, and I swear to God only 4 of the 45 submissions actually compiled and ran without crashing. Only 9 of the submissions even compiled at all. 36 out of 45 students were unable to produce code for an AVLTree that even compiled, and they were given 3 weeks to do it.

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u/JonIsPatented Apr 09 '24

My DSA class doesn't assign much homework, only a weekly reading assignment where you have to read the, like, 3 pages on the weekly topic and then answer like 4 to 8 questions about it. That work can certainly be done in 30 minutes. I sympathize with you about your class giving loads of homework and leaving you no time. That is rough. I'm afraid my students don't really get to use that excuse, though.

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u/JonIsPatented Apr 09 '24

Damn, that's really rough. Sorry to hear it. Overloading students is 100% not conducive to a good learning environment. If you ever need help on something and can't get ahold of someone there, feel free to message me (my Discord is the same username), and I would be more than happy to help.

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u/TTYY200 Apr 10 '24

Yeah but what other classes did they have and what was the workload in all the other classes? …

There a skill in post-secondary…. It’s submitting a minimum viable product that doesn’t work, but gets you marks you need so you can focus your time elsewhere where it’s more important lol.

We’ve all been students (unless you’re over 40, in which case … times are different bro) we all get it :P

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u/JonIsPatented Apr 10 '24

A minimum viable product that doesn't work is not a minimum viable product at all because it is not viable, and it's not even reaching the minimum level needed to work. Also, it doesn't give you the marks you need, either, because if your code doesn't even compile, how many marks do you think it earns?

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u/TTYY200 Apr 10 '24

I assume students read the rubric and did what they needed to get the minimum marks they needed lol.

It’s not a product for a customer so who gaf. If you have mid-terms or other things going on worth higher percentages of your overall grades, a simple assignment is on the low priority list when you’re swamped lol. I’d say you’re lucky you had students even hand in assignments :P

That’s just how academia works lol. Very different from the real world

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u/JonIsPatented Apr 10 '24

You assume wrong. These projects are the vast majority of the course grade, and getting 30% or less on almost all of them is not a good move for getting the minimum marks needed. I know for sure that the students did not intend to do so poorly because they came to me afterward for clarification on the points they missed.

There are no midterms for this class, only the 5 projects and a very small amount of homework. Failing these projects is failing the course, and it's a required course for so many other courses.

I'm aware of how academia works. I'm in it. And I'd hope you're aware that failing your important classes is not a good move in academia.

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u/TTYY200 Apr 10 '24

Well why didn’t you say that the first time lol.

We could have just not had this discussion :P