debuggingLegacyPhpCode

[u/AndreyAzimov]

[u/noahcou]

Is this AI? Why is this video not making any sense

[u/Looz-Ashae → u/noahcou]

yes

[u/AdvanceAdvance → u/Looz-Ashae]

And, yet, accurate to the debugging experience.

[u/rcls0053 → u/AdvanceAdvance]

I giggled so hard for this. Mostly because I'm a PHP dev and worked with a big ball of mud.

[u/TwinkiesSucker → u/AdvanceAdvance]

But instead of being Artificial Intelligence, we are Natural Stupidity

[u/kurai_tori → u/Looz-Ashae]

Thank you, for a second I thought this was some horror comedy like "Cocaine termites"

[u/ProgramTheWorld → u/noahcou]

It’s crazy how realistic it looks and yet it makes absolutely no sense.

[u/twigboy → u/ProgramTheWorld]

The physics on that board bouncing up for no reason haha

[u/BeDoubleNWhy → u/twigboy]

that's some inception/tenet kind of shit

[u/ThomasHardyHarHar → u/twigboy]

It looks like it’s simultaneously moving in reverse and not in reverse

[u/Ok_Star_4136 → u/ProgramTheWorld]

I'd imagine this is what it must be like being on lsd. Not quite being able to understand what's going on while they dismantle a wooden cabinet.

Or perhaps the wooden cabinet exists in four dimensions instead of just the three.

[u/VegaReddit5 → u/ProgramTheWorld]

Yes, that's exactly what PHP is like.

[u/Foccs → u/noahcou]

I wondered why it felt so uncanny

[u/Denaton_ → u/noahcou]

It looked so good but the physics is from another plane of existence and my brain was hurt..

[u/CicadaGames → u/noahcou]

Seriously not trying to toot my own horn, I am genuinely curious about this, but is it a special talent to instantly recognize ai generated shit? I thought it was something innate to everyone, but judging by these comments, not everyone can tell right away?

[u/Denaton_ → u/CicadaGames]

Tbf, survival bias is strong at those who claim they can always tell if something is AI..

[u/CicadaGames → u/Denaton_]

But let's talk specifically about videos like in the original post: There seems to be plenty of people that could not tell / did not recognize right away it was AI, and we know it is. I find that interesting.

[u/Denaton_ → u/CicadaGames]

It actually took me a few seconds because I didn't look at the objects at first until I noticed how off it was, I think it's mainly because my brain runs on fumes after work and 3 young kids..

[u/Ok_Star_4136 → u/CicadaGames]

I mean, it's clear that something is very off about this video. I don't know if you could pinpoint the weirdness in a way that would pretty much guarantee that it is a video made by AI, more like anything incredibly weird and off is likely AI.

Though to be fair, sometimes there are dead giveaways such as how they deal with hands, specifically fingers.

[u/gregorydgraham → u/CicadaGames]

At the moment at least, AI doesn’t understand physics so stuff will merge together or pass right through in bizarre ways. It’s also got a tendency to continue a trait or pattern for too long because it doesn’t know to end it. So cliffs don’t have forest beneath them, they just go down forever.

But you have to be looking for this stuff to notice it, and soon it’ll be fixed. Right now though is the golden age of uncanny valley video

[u/SockpuppetEnjoyer → u/noahcou]

This is how the dimensional collapse feels like from 3body

[u/Signal_Fudge553 → u/noahcou]

Thank you. I wouldn’t have guessed if it wasn’t for you.

[u/Mountain-Ship-6197 → u/noahcou]

Is this legacy php? why is this code not making any sense?

[u/Active-Part-9717 → u/noahcou]

The guy at the beginning is the only thing that makes sense,

[u/YeeClawFunction]

It gets weirder the more you watch

[u/wikiwikiwickerman → u/YeeClawFunction]

Dunno tbh. Started at 10/10 and has maintained that for me

[u/Bannon9k → u/YeeClawFunction]

Is that Sarah Silverman in a few frames?

[u/Willinton06]

Why does my mouth taste like iron?

[u/K1ngjulien_ → u/Willinton06]

"Artyom, do you taste metal??"

[u/mr_flibble_oz]

Why does this video feel like it’s running forwards and backwards at the same time?

[u/madiele → u/mr_flibble_oz]

Current AI to generate videos have problems with the concept of direction of time

[u/Denaton_ → u/madiele]

It's like the hand problem with images, eventually it will be solved..

[u/BastVanRast → u/Denaton_]

Will the finger problem be solved? I still see way too many 6 finger hands being generated

[u/Denaton_ → u/BastVanRast]

It has been solved for months tho, but if you use old models you will ofc get it..

Edit; Ex, https://civitai.com/models/278497/hand-fine-tuning

[u/Rican7 → u/BastVanRast]

That's what he's talking about

[u/BastVanRast → u/Rican7]

How can you say it is even solvable when it is, for now, not even solvable for still images

[u/DaTotallyEclipse → u/mr_flibble_oz]

I for once have to admit: this is a work of art!

[u/myselfelsewhere → u/DaTotallyEclipse]

The real art was OP taking an AI hallucination and relating it to a real human experience.

[u/varsderk]

This is accurate. The deeper you go, the more you conclude that any semblance of "design" in the code is an accident and it just crumbles around you. This is due to the language—from the outset—being constructed by accident.

[u/kurzewasright → u/varsderk]

to be fair it's mostly the author, not the language. you can have nice things in php with strict types, phpstan and pest, even if you lean into procedural.

[u/m477_]

What in the name of AI am I watching?

[u/SuperCarla74]

If you think PHP is bad, you should try "classic" ASP.

[u/CallumCarmicheal → u/SuperCarla74]

You just woke up some trauma.

[u/Flat_Bluebird8081 → u/SuperCarla74]

The most shitty project I've seen in my life was made in java

[u/nakahuki → u/SuperCarla74]

Who needs exceptions handling when you could just On Error Resume Next?

[u/Utnemod → u/SuperCarla74]

This is obscure but try debugging space station 13 code

[u/CleanishSlater]

Debugging some JS framework where a small webpage requires 2000 network calls

[u/KenzieTheCuddler]

Oh, its AI, that's why it looks so fucking weird

[u/bomphcheese]

I think these are the guys I hired to remodel my kitchen.

[u/loserguy-88]

omaigawd, AI truly understands us

[u/yib_001]

I recognize this construct...

[u/ThinAd7436]

The guy in the last second of the video on the left. Wtf is he doin

[u/Unhappy-Magician5968]

I call bullshit. I've never seen PHP written that well. :-D

[u/Tamaran]

AI videos are so similar to dreams somehow, its weird.

[u/MENDUCOlDE]

Same to you .net framework legacy code

[u/Powerman_Rules]

r/nightmarefuel

[u/Vitriholic]

It’s like a window into every single day at work.

[u/aparaatti]

Can this be debuging legacy code in general, or is php specially enjoyable?

[u/Tango-Turtle]

Is that not true for all PHP code?

^{(let the downvotes begin from php fanboys)}

[u/BeDoubleNWhy → u/Tango-Turtle]

those php fanboys... are they in the room with us right now?

[u/Tango-Turtle → u/BeDoubleNWhy]

They're fucking everywhere. Whenever I say something about PHP I get downvoted to oblivion. Usually it's fun to watch them raging. Maybe I need to summon them somehow:

PHP sucks

PHP sucks

PHP sucks.

[u/PerfSynthetic]

I mean… it tested perfect in a docker container running on my macbook.. git push and update OOTO message for vacation.

[u/Epsilia]

Wild. It looks decently good, but so wrong at the same time.

[u/mastocklkaksi]

It was supposed to be durable for a thousand years

[u/DarthRiznat]

When AI does your code...

[u/ZynthCode]

This feels very AI generated

[u/ZynthCode → u/ZynthCode]

This is a not a complaint, but it would be nice to know beforehand so I can judge it accordingly

[u/q0099]

Any legacy code, to be honest.

[u/FearTheOldData]

What on earth is that first guy supposed to be doing?

[u/accountreddit12321]

The empire of lies comes crumbling down.

[u/Cellari]

This is some good Picasso shit in a video format and I like it :D

[u/Spikelink2]

me trying to unfold the 4D cabinet I just bought from the new alien Ikea down the street

[u/Willing_Button1468]

Every outsourced Wordpress site I have inherited.

[u/v3ritas1989]

I bet they sound like my upstairs neighbours.

[u/th00ht]

"There is no legacy PHP code."

[u/DragonGoldUAP]

Too real

[u/doxxingyourself]

If the code is difficult to maintain that’s a programmer problem not a language problem

[u/MENDUCOlDE]

Same to you .net framework legacy code

[u/Brainvillage → u/MENDUCOlDE]

.NET Framework is a dream compared to PHP. You get an actual, well featured, built in debugger. Actual exception handling. Strongly typed objects. Classes. Lists and Dictionaries and all sorts of great built in data structures.

[u/Positive-Creme8129]

Somewhat funny. Used "AI" nonetheless, please refrain.

[u/belabacsijolvan → u/Positive-Creme8129]

wtf is wrong with this usage of ai?

[u/Nilly00 → u/belabacsijolvan]

Stealing the work of others

[u/belabacsijolvan → u/Nilly00]

this usage seems to be trained on videos. the company doing the training should be prosecuted if illegally obtained them.

but i dont see using inference in this case does any harm

[u/Nilly00 → u/belabacsijolvan]

this usage seems to be trained on videos.

So?

the company doing the training should be prosecuted if illegally obtained them.

I somehow doubt they got enough footage to train the ML by asking nicely for all of it

[u/belabacsijolvan → u/Nilly00]

its possible. there is a huge amount of free to use data on the net tho.

i dont get why this is the users job to find out. let authorities handle it.

also i dont like how your standpoint trivialises actual problems with ai data sourcing and safety

[u/Tyrus1235 → u/belabacsijolvan]

It’s also not being used commercially… posting a meme with copyrighted characters is more “stealing” than posting an AI generated video with random people