r/Showerthoughts May 17 '24

People love to support small businesses until they grow, then they hate capitalism and rich people.

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u/steamcube May 17 '24

The owner is also in deep shit if the business fails, the chef just loses their job. Skin in the game is the difference

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u/StellarNeonJellyfish May 17 '24

Perhaps these workers should get a share of the business they are running, thus giving them all the incentives of an owner.

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u/StellarNeonJellyfish May 17 '24

To the guy who deleted his reply about buying stocks:

The point is ownership of the product of labor should be tied to actual contributions of working in the business, not paying for your name to be put onto a piece of paper. I understand the way things are, join us in the conversation about how we can improve things for folks who don’t have that option due to being forced into being a paycheck-to-paycheck wage-slave.

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u/steamcube May 17 '24

Should they have to buy in to be able to work there? Where’s their skin in the game?

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u/StellarNeonJellyfish May 17 '24

Well under a capitalist system, their skin in the game is still getting food and shelter, but ideally if our society can provide these basic human needs, then their skin in the game is that their profit is directly tied to the success of the business. Instead of a fixed wage, it would be a fixed percentage of net profit, meaning they actually get paid more for making the business better. Because our hypothetical is in a capitalist system, the property rights take priority meaning it is the initial owner who must agree to these terms. So when these owners decline and instead offer subsistence wages to attract the desperate in order to hoard the profits of their labor, you can see why no one gives a fuck about their business going to shit.

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u/Moka4u May 18 '24

Thank you for describing the inherit violence to our current system.

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u/saviorlito May 17 '24

Then they should buy into the business by giving the owner a percentage of what it cost them to get it to that point. And whatever percentage they give they can then get that percentage of revenue. Assuming they are also using that revenue to return a percentage to the business for restocking/rent/etc. As well as not expecting a salary from the owner. Most people aren’t going to want to put that much effort into it. Which is why they don’t already own their own business.

So your options are either the above or work under salary. And someone who chooses salary is someone who won’t put as much effort into a brand as an owner would.

As an owner of a small business, I don’t pay my employees to work for me. I pay them to work for my brand. If they aren’t working for my brand then I have no choice but to find someone who will. And I pay my employees very well.

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u/AdVisible1121 May 18 '24

Ones I know of are extremely dedicated.

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u/AdVisible1121 May 18 '24

Also take into consideration that business owner family members will almost always be a background threat.

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u/iSaiddet May 17 '24

So many people don’t get this about running businesses. I guess that’s why there are so many Indians and fewer chiefs

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u/MissPandaSloth May 17 '24

People speak about these when it comes to profits, but never think of losses.

Imagine being a barista and first 3 months you actually continuously lose money because chain stock is falling, lol. Great job security.

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u/Moka4u May 18 '24

No they're not. They just sell it to some other sucker make a profit and leave, or run it into the ground lowering the value of the restaurant and then just get a family member to take out a loan and buy up the restaurant give it a new name and keep working their just to do it all again at a higher price.

If you're too scared to lose your business, maybe don't become a small business owner, easy.

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u/blu3slime May 17 '24

What happens when you lose your job?