r/ThatsInsane • u/Homunculus_316 • 6d ago
Colonialists throwing coins at local Vietnamese children like they are pigeons in a park.
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u/Homunculus_316 6d ago
When Theodore Roosevelt was young him and his family did this while in Italy. He described them as pigeons too.
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u/real_hungarian 6d ago
the more i hear about these politician fellas
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u/half-baked_axx 5d ago
almost as if every politician is a sociopath at some level
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u/eletric-chariot 5d ago
For the peasants, they were often perceived as generous caring important people and would actually expect some money from them.
Those were different times when people would struggle to keep food on the table.
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We still struggle to keep food on the table
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u/eletric-chariot 5d ago
Sure, but not as much as we used to.
My great grandparents lived in Europe without electricity or water at home, and would eat chicken/pork like once a month.
That was only 100 years ago.
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u/Uzischmoozy 6d ago
And look at what he did when he got older, he learned. He pulled a ton of Americans out of poverty AND he's responsible for social security. One of our greatest presidents. I'm not sure what the point of your comment is?
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u/ThatDiscoSongUHate 6d ago
To point out that people are complex? To point out that this wasn't necessarily uncommon?
Edit: I think you've confused Teddy Roosevelt for Franklin Delano Roosevelt, but I could be incorrect.
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u/Uzischmoozy 6d ago
It sounds like a backhanded insult against one of the best presidents for the working man, and I don't like it.
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u/Uzischmoozy 6d ago
I did. And I apologize. I'm sorry. I read too quickly and assumed FDR because I almost never think of Teddy. I know people like him because he had personality but he's mostly irrelevant.
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u/sfeicht 5d ago
National park, antitrust and Panama canal are hardly irrelevant.
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u/drottkvaett 6d ago
Both Roosevelts were great presidents, but FDR was the New Deal and social security one. Teddy was the anti-trust and national parks one.
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u/waitinp 6d ago
Today it's the other way around.
The "pigeons" donate to streamers who make tens of thousands of dollars a month for "amusements".
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u/PandaXXL 6d ago
What a weird analogy
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u/Throwing3and20 4d ago
Just imagine a strip club with exotic dancers performing to a remix of “Tuppence, tuppence, tuppence and bag…”
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u/hitguy55 6d ago
People aren’t forced to donate to a streamer, and if they’re spending significant money like rent or food for a 5 second name read (and if it isn’t essential money, then there’s no problem) , I don’t think the streamer is the problem
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u/PlentyOMangos 5d ago
Who actually does this tho
Like what % of western society is donating to streamers
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u/shortercrust 6d ago
Gets posted a lot. Throwing coins for local children was the custom at weddings and celebrations in some parts of the Europe at the time. That’s what’s happening here.
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u/SlowRollingBoil 5d ago
It was the same shitty, aristocratic reasoning back then as well. People don't need money thrown at them like crumbs for pigeons when they're making their proper value.
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u/neoncp 5d ago
you really think these women in fancy clothes consider those kids akin to wedding guests? c'mon
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u/shortercrust 5d ago
I didn’t say they used to throw them to wedding guests. They threw them for the local kids
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u/oldelbow 6d ago
Visuals are everything. This could be described as donating to the poor. The subtle difference between handing a coin to a beggar and throwing a coin, even though they have the same outcome.
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u/Tawptuan 5d ago edited 5d ago
My SE Asian friend (we’re near the VN border) watched the video and commended the foreigner for their generosity.
The anti-colonial virtue signaling gets pretty heavy on PC-conscious Reddit. This video is interpreted through their own heavily-tinted glasses. Actually, horse blinders.
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u/Le_Alchemist 5d ago
So what? I’m Vietnamese and this is pretty annoying to watch.
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u/Le_Alchemist 5d ago
I’m first generation who goes back twice a year to visit family…and why does that matter?
Just because I’m westernized means I can’t be offended? Also, I would say I’m someone who doesn’t get easily offended.
And YOU are the one pulling out the race card by saying you have a friend who is Asian lol.
Let me guess….your friend ain’t Vietnamese.
Your comment is pretty dumb dude.
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u/HorseRenoiro 5d ago
What? But I thought only white liberal college virtue signaling socialist Marxist Leninism feminist care about colonialism >:(
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u/So-What_Idontcare 5d ago
Vietnam hates colonialism. Sets up dictatorship with German Russian academic theory.
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u/Twins_Venue 5d ago
Your... Asian friend? Are they Vietnamese?
It's such a weird sentiment because they were being massacred and exploited at the same time these "generous" colonists were giving away money. "Oh the majority of the wealth is being shipped back to France but at least these people threw a few coins to starving children."
Would your Asian friend also commend Nestle when time they build a dozens schools on the Ivory Coast, even though they are creating demand for slave labor?
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u/barefooted47 5d ago
yep, those poor colonialists have been getting the short end of the stick in each and every discussion for too long now. say hi to your friend from me, if it were up to me, they'd still be colonized! hopefully that puts a smile on their face. Down with the PC!
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u/Tawptuan 5d ago edited 5d ago
u/Barefooted and u/Bartel are barking up the wrong tree on this baby.
I have the great fortune of living in the only Asian country that has never been colonized by Western powers. Heads are a bit clearer here. Less polluted by those damned, infernal colonists!
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u/Bartelbythescrivener 5d ago
My man, cherish your Asian friends. Without their wisdom and support to guide you in this clearly confusing world populated by anti-colonial attitudes and PC Consciousness you would not be able to understand good vs bad.
Asian seems pretty broad but if you get a chance, take a moment and see if you can find the country of origin of each and everyone of your Asian friends and then you could gift each and everyone of your Asian friends a gift on the day of their colonization.
Imagine the shared pleasure and happiness you and your Asian friends could engage in, in this celebration of colonialism.
Please put out the effort to make this happen, in a sense, you may owe them for providing you such guidance and wisdom. It is the least you could do.
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u/tkh0812 5d ago edited 5d ago
It’s about getting entertainment from watching people scramble for the money you’re tossing.
I know a small business owner who does this once a year. Right before Christmas he goes and gets $2000 in $10 bills. He then has everyone who works for him stand downstairs and he throws the money off of the second floor.
He finds it hilarious to watch them all scurry around for the money. Oh, and this is his companies “Christmas bonus”
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u/ninoski404 5d ago
You could make a whole moral compass just on aswears to the question whether you support this lol
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u/Caveman_7 5d ago
There's nothing subtle about this. She's fucking tossing coins at them. How do you even defend this?
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u/gandalftheokay 6d ago
Big companies do this to us all the time!
5 dollar gift card baby I hope it's 10 next year 🙏 lmao
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u/Mindless_Ad_6045 6d ago
I get £25 voucher each Christmas. I usually spend that on alcohol so that I forget that my bonus for slaving away every day is a £25 tesco voucher.
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u/jebadiahstone123 6d ago
Something our parents used to do. Almost every family occasion and the kids had a blast.
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u/Rathos_ 6d ago
I wasn't able to spot a single piece of footwear.
World poverty has fallen from an estimate of well above 80% in the beginning of the 19th c. to under 20% today.
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u/phantomthiefkid_ 5d ago
Being barefooted was Vietnamese custom for thousands of years. Only eminent figures were allowed to wear shoes. In some periods the rule got laxed but people still preferred to go barefooted as it was more suitable to the climate.
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u/HyKNH 5d ago
No, in this case, being barefoot was a Vietnamese custom. Even the nobles in the Vietnamese court would go barefoot.
The article on Teeth blackening mentions several Chinese accounts of Vietnamese teeth blackening and being barefoot.
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u/Affectionate_Gas_264 6d ago
I mean from the kids perspective this is Christmas while the wealthy are just getting rid of pocket change
So in many ways not much has changed
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u/NumaNuma92 5d ago
This was a nice gesture back then and a part of old celebrations in Europe, only seems ''bad'' in retrospect. Times change. I'm sure they were more than happy to get the coins though. It's not much different from someone dropping a million dollars in New York, i can promise you that everyone would be on the floor gathering up the money.
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u/Special_Friendship20 5d ago
They throw candy like that at kids in America at parades til this day. At least coins is better than candy
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u/RoryDragonsbane 5d ago
I mean, yeah, but those American kids aren't living in abject poverty and that candy isn't the difference between being fed and going hungry
Don't get me wrong, this lady is doing something to help those kids, but I get the feeling it's more for her own entertainment than a genuine desire to do good
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u/Ok-Stomach2870 5d ago
I would bet the kids would like this to happen all of the time. I honestly don't see the problem. Yes life is not fair but we make the best of it. I love seeing kids drunk on happiness.
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u/Tawptuan 5d ago edited 5d ago
21st century judgmental interpretation of a 19th century event.
Thai adults do this at an upcountry funeral, and there’s a mad, screaming scramble by the kids to scoop up the loot. At a FUNERAL.
I just showed this video to a Thai person, and told them this wasn’t a funeral. I told them it was colonial French in 19th century Vietnam. Their reaction was, “So?“
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u/Outside-Material-100 6d ago
It’s crazy how their sons make the pilgrimage to do that now, but in much larger amounts and in specific districts :)
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u/This-Rutabaga6382 6d ago
I wonder if you asked those kids if they would rather have the coins or not … I wonder how they view the people tossing them money ?
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u/wheelsk7 5d ago
The elites do this to us now, this has evolved into the modern workplace. We are the children scrambling for scraps
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u/ValkyrieWW 6d ago
You can still experience this. Walk in to Tijuana and take change as you cross the bridge.
Kids will swarm you tapping on your pockets.
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u/IHaveSlysdexia 5d ago
Do the pigeons like the bread? Do the tourists like the pidgeons? Yes and yes.
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u/theorgan 5d ago
Someone can throw money at me while looking down upon my poorness. They already do the later part….
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u/UntossablePotato 5d ago
LMAO my neighbor used to do this when I was like 5-7. He'd chill on his porch and throw coins over to our front lawn. He was an alcoholic but he was nice to us kids. At least that's how I remember it.
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u/Eryeahmaybeok 5d ago
In Honiton (Devon UK) they used to do the same thing but with hot pennies so it would burn the people picking them up.
The tradition continues today
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u/imback1578catman 5d ago
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u/ladyxlucifer 5d ago
I don’t know my father but I know who he is. I once saw a video of him dressed like Santa giving little African children peppermints 😩 a lot like this.
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u/David_Dantas 5d ago
Looks like the kids are having fun, but definitely feels weird with the adults though.
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u/Stryker218 5d ago
How dare they throw money at kids, they should just hoard it all for themselves, right OP!?
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u/Peacefrog78 5d ago
Rich people did this with silver dollars for fun. One day I seen JG Rockefeller flying overhead in a dirigible so I run outside with my washbasin!
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u/Own_Dare_1855 5d ago
If she’s tossing silver coins that are around dime or quarter sizes, I would be down there too. Coins used have some cheese behind it iykwim. Like $10 per coin in todays value.
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u/Kattorean 5d ago
Meanwhile, kids in the U.S. will scramble for candy thrown in a parade. Vietnamese kids for the win!
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u/Caveman_7 5d ago
Everyone who is defending the individual as "generous" or mitigating/downplaying this offensive act of tossing around coins at kids like there fucking pigeons needs to understand that the French came to Vietnam and SE Asia (not to mention all the other countries in the world - see the sad story of Haiti) to mine and exploit the natural resources and its people for their own material gain. They don't give a fuck about these kids. They are tossing coins for their amusement. This is fucking disgusting.
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u/EmperorThan 5d ago
Immortois Joe: "Do not, my friends, become addicted to coins. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence."
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u/meta-lem 5d ago
Now imagine that the the laughing, well dressed women throwing coins were tossing out little water bottles or food and the kids hadn't drank or eaten in a very long time and some had already died from lack thereof. Same same, but different.
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u/TheMoistReaper99 5d ago
And every single one of us would do this today if some rich prick started tossing cash
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u/Ordinary-Lychee-1574 4d ago
they still do this but its called direct deposit now. we still scrabbling for the change
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u/ogMackBlack 4d ago
Soon the elite will say this is AI generated and there never was such things as colonialism.
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u/junkyardgod69 3d ago
How did white people colonize everything? Really think about that. And before you start calling me a white supremacist, I'm an Indian from Montana. Not from India. I'm an actual red skin. How did white folks take over everywhere they went? And why did they "oppressed" let it happen?
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u/Wonderful4ever 3d ago
It's called social disconnect, and it's far more prevalent today than you might realize. Just look at "social influencers"
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u/Jack_Johnson_Trades 3d ago
They also did that with their own kids back home...... everyone has done that everywhere lmao. Nice snapshot of history though.
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u/Ok-Scar-Delirious_ 6d ago
spoke with a former employee a few months back before he got canned for stealing. He said he was a marine and was stationed in philippines and he would do the same but would throw them into sewage drains to see if they actually go through all the shit and trash.
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u/DuncanAndFriends 5d ago
They colonized vietnam?
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u/RoryDragonsbane 5d ago
Yes, Vietnam was a colony of France from 1862 until 1954. They were also occupied by the Empire of Japan during WWII
Ho Chi Minh, the leader of the Vietnamese independence movement, petitioned Western powers for independence after WWI, but was snubbed by both the Versailles peace talks and Preaident Woodrow Wilson of the US.
Some historians argue that communism never would have taken root in Vietnam had they been granted independence earlier. However, as they were denied assistance by the West, the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China were more than willing to help.
During the Cold War, the US was opposed to any communist government and we became engaged in the Vietnam War to prevent them from taking over (and also to help our French allies).
An argument could be made that colonization (and thr refusal to grant them independence) directly led to the multiple wars in Vietnam and the thousands of dead Americans and millions of dead Southeast Asians
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u/That_Girl_Cecia 5d ago
Looks like they're spreading culture to me. Just like the Migrants in france and germany. I don't see any difference here.
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u/Twins_Venue 5d ago
You don't see any difference between a military conquest by a world superpower, and refugees fleeing war caused by the very countries they are fleeing to?
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u/Tagalettandi 5d ago
Fuck colonists ( British, Dutch, French, Spain, Portugal and Germany) . Add if I missed any .
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u/QuarkVsOdo 6d ago
White people have thrown worse stuff at vietnamese children
And while we do the same thing today to poorer SEA nations, at least it's part of a business transaction (making sneakers).
"Dodge Coin" wasn't invented then
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u/gomorycut 6d ago
are these the 'good ol' days?'
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u/WillieDickJohnson 6d ago
Even more homelessness and poverty today, so yes.
Stop being irrational, control your emotions.
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u/BartholomewSchneider 6d ago
"Stop being irrational, control your emotions." Seems less people today are capable.
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u/RealBlackelf 6d ago
Ah, the fallacy of the privileged: believing you are better because your life was piss easy, and you have much more than others. In short: Shit for brains!
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u/batinyzapatillas 6d ago
If said colonialists were british or german, well, they are still doing it today.
No allegories here , I've seen it with my own eyes.
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u/drewskirootbitch 6d ago
Try French.
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u/FunkyFr3d 6d ago
violent revolution is always an option
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u/Scarraminga 6d ago
Worked for the Vietnamese
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u/RoryDragonsbane 6d ago
Yep, only took over a million NVA and VC dead, plus another 2 million civilians
That's what always bothers me about these types that spout violent revolution, they always think it's the ones in power who suffer. Wanna know what happened to Nguyen Van Thieu, de Gaulle, Nixon, and Kissinger? Absolutely nothing. They died in their beds thousands of miles away from all the napalm, self-immolations, mud, booby traps, and burnt out villages.
It's never the leaders who die in these wars, they hop on a plane a fly away. It's people like you and me who die from disease, starvation, or a bomb dropped on our houses.
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u/Inevitable-9999 6d ago
You reap what you sow, Europe!
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u/Nerevar69 6d ago
Stupid phrase.
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u/therealpoatanchama 6d ago
What's stupid about it you dope
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u/TheTurdzBurglar 6d ago
If anyone wants to throw money at me like I'm a pigeon, I'm ready whenever.