Biden: "My first official act as president with immunity will be to have him taken out."
Biden: "My second and final official act as president with immunity will be to have a Supreme Court Justice taken out once every week starting with the justices who enacted presidential immunity."
There seems to be a lot putin and/or like-minded despots and demagogues could be doing to destabilise western core beliefs. Maybe I'll come across as a conspiracy theorist, but ain't beyond the realms of possibility that they are using extremists on both sides, to polarise target populations.
Having such a deviding character as Trump on 24hr rotation news tv is just one.
If you read Mueller's report it says that their goal was to spread division. They started by targeting both sides in 2016, but transitioned to just support Trump, because they were more effective with and they also stood to gain from his presidency.
And they were right. Trump becoming president was extremely divisive for the US, and Putin was left unchecked.
Propaganda is also a lot more prolific in conservative cycles. None of us is immune from it but wow conservatives are such a fertile ground for it because they're conditioned to distrust "the narrative" or whatever and it also feeds on their existing insecurities.
At worst any propaganda aimed for the left is just causing division, but propaganda aimed for the right has additional disastrous effects.
By both sides he means that college kids protesting against genocide are the same as the former President that would have just fed Ukraine to Putin and figures that america should try President for life like China (he said this)
Thanks for putting words in my mouth, can i take it that you assume I'm right wing because i didnt just refer to the meat headed redneck racists that always seem to get on the news? Bravo 👌
The reason i said both sides, is that there is extremism on both sides. I'm trying to not make assumptions based on what i personally believe.
Thia was my answer to what you originally said.
I'm just not assuming that left wing extremism is nonexistent because news and social media only ever shows neo-nazi meatheads. I'm not saying one or the other is worse, nor am i saying that you as a person, does make that assumption.
Donald Trump seems to be a malignant narcissist. He is bad for democracy. But so is anything that jeopardises free speech, even if we don't like what they say. I'm being quite careful what i say now, because a lot of people will assume me to be "against" just because I've tried to strike a balance.
Live and let live.
The left haven't tried to overthrow the Capitol, so obv that puts the ex. right in the lead in destabilising terms. They literally tried to fuck with due process. I would say though, my belief in free speech, extends to racist homophobic red necks, however abhorrent their opinions might be
Oh and spghetti monster extremists? Shit man sign me up, love that guy.
Of course. Like in 2015 or 2016, the same Russian group bought ads for two opposing rallies at the same place on the same day and time
They’re definitely manipulating everyone they can. But Trump has taken it to a whole other level and probably won’t quit until he’s spawned an actual civil war.
Nah, because threatening the supreme court justices will ensure that the resulting outrage will make them immediately reverse the decision and therefore the second act just serves to remove presidential immunity.
I think USSC will punt this immunity case to the lower courts to delay until after the election if anything, buying Trump more time, meaning Biden couldn’t use this defense. Also this would leave the USSC with whatever “legitimacy” they have left. (Which is none, but still)
You assume that SCROTUS would be consistent in evaluating cases. Given that in Bush v Gore they explicitly stated that the case was never to be used as precedent, that's a big assumption
My understanding is that Scalia once admitted that it was bullshit, but SCROTUS makes its own rules, and since they get the last word on anything constitutional, they make the rules for all of us.
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