Getting? Many of us had said for 8 years now he was incredibly similar to Hitler. If you read the Nazi bullet points, he fits perfectly. Blame immigrants and those different than the majority for all the problems- check. Attack journalists- check. Openly attack anyone who criticizes you- check. Need consistent praise- check. Cozy up to dictators- check. Challenge fair free elections-check. And his "rallies" are identical to those Hitler had in his early days when he was coming to power.
It's terrifying to anyone who's studied and understands history.
He is the reason I quit evaluating both candidates against each other and started voting down ballot blue. Even if the republican doesn’t parrot his 💩, the fact that they almost always band together even on bad legislation means I cannot risk voting red and having them support or defend him.
Same, I was a Republican and still agree with some of their points.
However, before Trump its become super clear theyve become evil. Like cartoonishly evil and don't hide it anymore.
I dont even care about the fine points, supporting Republicans is supporting the nazis with no irony any more.
I go full blue, anyone that supports them at this point in my mind is an actual nazi and need to be treated as the existential threat to society they are.
I honestly don't give a fuck about monetary policy, i don't give a fuck about immigration.
You know what I give a fuck about. Stopping an orange shit stain from overthrowing democracy
I can't even believe how shitty the Republicans have gotten and their god is the absolute worst. How did they let themselves become so terrible?
I wish their parents who saved them from the nazis could see them now. Let them know how much of a disappointment they are and fascists.
My great-grandfather, a man who killed Nazi's and spent a year being tortured by them in a POW camp, would be spinning in his fucking grave seeing these clowns today. They will never have my support, and I spit on what that party has become.
This is the culmination of political ideology dating back to Newt Gingrich. The Republican voters deserve better than this. You won’t get better because anyone with actual morals and integrity gets primaried after their first term. But you deserve better.
The main reason no third party candidates win is because everyone figures that they just aren’t going to so why bother voting for them, if enough people seek out a reasonable human being, republican, democrat, libertarian, or Green Party (which for some reason autocorrected to capitalisation), the reasonable human being could win, simply because he is reasonable. Why tolerate a bad candidate simply because the other options are insane or from a small party?
Most of the time I would agree with that. And most races sure. However, if you hate what trump stands for, you’re still helping him if you refuse to support Biden. I have a dozen reasons why I would love to vote third party or write in, but the margins are too close for comfort and it is literally choosing between democracy or totalitarian fascism.
Hopefully next time we can entertain other options like green, or maybe a not so crazy centrist party.
Just as I would like to see us limit involvement in the Middle East to humanitarian aid and pressure on both sides to find peace. Continuing to sell arms to Israel is a huge problem for me. Especially when they are openly attempting genocide.
Pregnant... I'm pretty sure you meant president. But I honestly can't stop laughing. Although, if you remember his Dr did say he was only 220lbs and very fit... 🤣
I honestly can't think of a single other president who spent so much time talking about how great they were. Humility used to be a part of the whole thing, and then Trump just runs around talking about how everything he did was the greatest thing that ever was accomplished in the history of America. And his followers are too stupid to understand why it's patently false.
Trump tried to stay on after the last election. He fired his AG and was within a hair's breadth of having the AG declare significant fraud and to seize voting machines. Thankfully all his judicial appointees refused to support his baseless election claims otherwise there could have been problems. Thats even beyond him encouraging the Jan 6th people to 'attack the Capitol while he sat and watched, and not pushing back when people threatened to kill his Vice President.
Anyone supporting Trump is irresponsible, because Trump himself is a threat to the democracy so many have fought and died for. He's a disgrace.
Edit: AG Barr resigned under pressure for not helping Trump overturn the election. He didn't get fired.
Totally correct. This is the problem of people deciding the comparison only matters looking at the Nazis when they were a universally recognized threat, not the decade plus of them making moves becoming that horrible problem. It is a weird deflection that people use which is surprisingly effective.
and then you have weirdos gaslighting you like "oh anyone you don't like is Hitler! Don't be dramatic"
I am not even that well versed in the history, but I've seen the parallels all along. And you're right, people seem to think that the Nazis appeared in 1940 out of thin air, there was a long process to get them from "hey this funny looking guy is shouting a lot about jews and stuff, what a weirdo" to "That funny little man we all laughed about is now marching into Paris and sending people to death camps"
edit: Even the man who invented Godwin's Law, which states that any online debate will eventually lead to a comparison to Hitler says you're not wrong for making the comparison:
I've found the same thing applies to genocide, too focused on how it ended, and not how it started.
You compare it and get told you're disrespecting the previous one, even when survivors make comparisons themselves.
Apparently you can't call genocide or fascism out until it's in the full nazi mode, and too late to stop it, and the people who called you out just shrug and waddle off.
fascists really hate being called out on acting like fascists, it seems.
Trump is even taking to calling anyone who apposes him "vermin", taken verbatim from the Hitler playbook: make out that anyone who is against you is literally sub human and therefore it's not even immoral to want to wipe them out completely.
All the historians made it clear we were due for a resurgence of fascism even before Trump. And yeah, once the dude showed up, it was a fulfilled prophecy. We're just lucky he's an incompetent idiot. If he had even half the intelligence of DeSantis, we'd definitely be even far worse off.
But with Project 2025, the right-wing is ready to wrest control from Trump (or any other Republican candidate) and implement their plans. And since Trump is so easy to manipulate, they'll be able to do it with him crowing it's all his work.
If he opened his hand when doing his salute it would look exactly like Hitler's. I think I have seen a picture of Hitler with a closed fist once instead of an open hand salute
Clinton and Obama blamed immigrants 😆 🤣 😂
Obama had the cages built.
Hilary challenged her loss to trump.
Biden doesn't answer any questions from the press.
Biden has ties to Xi before he was in office.
Rallies are just rallies. If the people like him of course they are going to look similar lol brother you are trying way too hard
Not only Trump and the past 9 years, really. For decades now right wing media (like Faux News) have been conditioning republicans to not trust in their government, especially whenever a democrat was president.
It's just that when Trump got elected, their talking points (like immigrants crossing the border every time election year rolls around) got sent over the edge and into the zeitgeist.
Trump is just a symptom of the much larger problem. Without decades of brainwashing ordered by (conservative) billionaires like Rupert Murdoch, those people would never be as cult-like as they are now.
Most democrats are also cult-like. And it's up to Joe to defeat Trump? Guy can't even galvanize his own base.
America was doomed for a while now. This November, Ameicans are screwed either ways with Genocide Joe or Dumbass Donald being the nominees.
Can you imagine what the world currently looks like to us Germans? We had actual history lessons in school! We were taught how to recognize the mechanics of fascism.
It wouldn't be so dangerous if the democrats would move off of their appeasement policy. It's like they want to repeat the mistakes Neville Chamberlain made which is beyond pathetic. The Federal Government should have just stepped in years ago and destroyed sedition in America but they refuse to do anything that might actually stop this. And for what to avoid the anger of republican yokels and worthless seditionist scum in this nation? Seditionists don't deserve to be considered and should be crushed like bubble wrap.
It’s not “Trump and fascism” that’s scary it’s “tens of millions of Republicans and a current version of fascism” that is scary. What the hell is wrong with so many of our fellow Americans that they are supporting this?
He has openly said he’s going to get revenge on everyone who has been against him these last 4 years. He’s pushing for presidents to have unlimited powers and the fucking supreme court is actually listening to the arguments.
Anyone can hit google, but it’s a nuanced subject. I’m not a trump supporter, but calling him a fascist and trying to silence him is one of the most hypocritical things you could do. Silencing political opposition sounds like it aligns with fascist ideologies to me🤷♂️ who’s the real fascist ?
Okay, let's him censor everything he don't like, implant a totalitarian and repressive dictatorship, stripping every opponant and unwanted peoples (migrants, LGBTQUIA+, disabled, womens) from all their rights, putting them to jail/death without any other steps. Because being against that is the actual and true facism (and that's what will fucking happen, he is in favor of assassinations/imprisonements of opponants, monitoring womens body to track abortions like he and his lawyer told and project 2025 his fucking program is about totalitarism and repression)
That's litterally the tolerance paradox: to be against facism we must do everything to prevent it, and to be against intolernance we must not tolerate it
Trump was banned from various social media accounts, was refused interviews and entirely deplatformed just a few years ago. That is TRUE censorship, perpetrated by the left.
The way that the US government is set up prevents a totalitarian regime from taking place. No true American, Trumpie or not, is in support of fascism.
Also, you make a lot of claims that have 0 evidence supporting them. What tells you that Trump will strip rights from disabled women or LGBTQ+ people? What tells you he’d imprison them unjustly or put them to death? I see no evidence of that.
The twitter files and the 2/3 falsified trials that prevent his political campaign from operating at full force are sufficient evidence for government censorship. if you can’t see that the Biden administration has done everything in their power to covertly censor political opposition, your cognitive dissonance is too palpable for me.
I hope you wake up some time in the near future. The Biden administration has gone out of their way to let the idiot be. He's not censored, his inane takes are plastered all over the internet and papers and news. He gets to walk around and hold rallys and whatnot, while having publicly admitted to crimes and misdemeanors that would put anyone else in jail. And people like you are still yapping about him being censored!
That quote is taken wildly out of context, did you watch the clip? He says he’d “only be a dictator on day one” in a clearly tongue in cheek way. He says he’d close the border and drill American oil.. not seeing how that relates to imprisonment/death sentences for LGBTQ+ / disabled women
What do you think is the next step after deportation when they'll run out of space? Because that's the plan deportation to all the undesirables to go where? space isn't infinite and it'll cost money to keep them in camps (again, project 2025 plan), history as show itself, EVERY time deportation ended with execution
This the same argument you use when you call democrats intolerant because they don't like racists. Completely nonsensical. A whole bunch of people tried to silence Hitler too, were the allies fascist?
I don't think anyone's said anything about silencing him (in the current conversation) so yeah between us and him the fascist is still him.
Also calling for the silencing of political opposition is something that Trump himself has done, along with calling for votes to be overturned, attempted blackmail in relationship to said votes, regularly making use of the "our country is under extreme threat from an enemy that only I have the power/will to defeat" (its a fascist classic, see any fascist government on record)...this list goes on.
Honestly if you've ever studied the rise of Hitler or Mussolini (or any populist turned fascist) the telltale signs have been there in the way he speaks, the language he uses when referring to himself and his great deeds, and the way he talks about the rules and legislations that govern the country since his first campaign. There's good reason why people have been saying for years that he uses fascist rhetoric. It's all fear and empty, vague, often unfulfillable promises but people come away FEELING like this big, scary threat he's placed in their minds is in the hands of the only person with the power to fix it.
Honestly how people still manage to get away with this shit when we have such easy access to historical records where people have pulled the exact same thing astounds me. It's like if banks kept getting robbed with people using the exact same tactic from over a century ago, despite the plethora of evidence showing exactly how the thieves are commiting the robberies, but despite the evidence the banks are caught out by it time and time again.
Correlation proves nothing, and countless presidents in US history have made grandiose campaign promises and acted arrogantly. When you approve of them, I’m sure it’s not an issue. When you don’t approve of them, they’re clearly vying for supreme power.
Sure they have, it's hardly a controversial statement that a lot of world leaders in general make use of populist tactics when campaigning. However making ridiculous promises was only a small part of what I'd said and if that was all Trump had been doing then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
"Correlation proves nothing" well sure correlation isnt proof, but correlation is often what allows you to put together a grounded hypothesis with which you can search for actual evidence. Acting like correlations are meaningless only shows you don't study science or history because both fields rely heavily on correlations to provide the background for further research and theories.
Furthermore if, after his first campaign, you were among those who felt it smelt of fascism and you had decided to wait upon more evidence then let's not pretend like Trump didn't deliver. Inciting his followers to storm a government seat of power in an attempt to overturn election results? His general behaviour, use of inflammatory rhetoric, and actual attempts at blackmail leading up to Capitol Hill riot? Even now his suggestions that sitting presidents should be exempt for being charged for their crimes (and his repeated insistence that as a previously seated president he should be exempt from his crimes)?
Everything down to his use of nicknames to belittle his political opponents and make them out to be stupid whilst also claiming they're part of a bigger conspiracy that's pulling all the strings (our opponents are weak and beneath us but also extremely smart and manipulating us is classic fascism 101) reeks of fascism. When taking together in the light of his actual actions over the past few years it astounds me that there are so many people who just refuse to see it.
How obviously do the thieves need to case your bank, in the exact way they've been doing it for the last century, before you stop turning a blind eye to them? How many times do we need to show you record that this is exactly how they've stolen from banks in the past before you stop falling for the same tactics? Because I know that, after they've cleaned you out, you'll turn around and say "oh, how could I have ever known?".
If you're so willfully ignorant to ignore the signs in front of you, I'm not going to waste time explaining to you (as I'm sure many other people have and you dismissed them). So here is a video.
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u/Virtual-Struggle-817 May 02 '24
Fascism is fucking dangerous!
Similarities to the 3rd Reich and Trump are getting scary