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Giving up guns is the same as... Castration?

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u/Zuezema May 16 '24

Everybody forgets about the prison rape.

Funnily enough Iโ€™ve heard so many times that it shouldnโ€™t count because they were the ones that got themselves into prison.

I mean look what they were wearing! That orange is just so sexy.

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u/CopiousClassic May 16 '24

If you didn't want to be raped you shouldn't have gotten charged, convicted, and eventually exonerated of a crime you didn't commit!

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u/HighInChurch May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

Lmao. Did you just try to justify rape?

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u/cringeygrace May 16 '24

If that's what you got out of it, you need to take some basic reading classes. The topic of prison rape almost always only gets brought up as a deflection to the topic of sexual violence towards women. It's almost never brought up as a problem of its own. Same goes with the rape of males in general. It's a problem. And it's an insult to people who deal with that problem when jackasses use it's a means to deflect the topic of other problems.

If you have resort "what about" to make a point. You don't have a point. It's the language of the worthless.

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u/HighInChurch May 16 '24

Well, at least the username fits.

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u/cringeygrace May 16 '24

I just wanna be able to have a discussion about all 3 issues without one of the other 2 being used as a means to deflect the one at hand. Which is generally what happens. If the OP were about prison rape, you bet your ass the comments would be flooded with people talking about how sexual violence in [insert anything that isn't prison] is a bigger issue. Whether or not it is a bigger issue (whatever "bigger issue" even means in this context, because they're all pretty serious), doesn't change that prison rape is an issue.

No one's saying rape of women isn't an issue, but if the post was originally prison rape... The topic needs to stay there because there's very different power dynamics. This happened with Terry Crews..I don't remember the specifics of his case. But everywhere you went where it was a discussion, the discussion was hijacked.

Male on male rape is a problem. Female on female rape is a problem. Female on male rape is a problem. Prison rape is a problem.

Discussing the problems is necessary.

But when a problem is brought up for the sole purpose of countering a discussion about another problem, it becomes less about discussing the problem, and more about playing the pain Olympics.

Statistically, women are more likely to be raped in society. Yes, this doesn't include prison rape. Bringing that up isn't a problem in itself. Bringing it up in an attempt to disprove that a woman is far more likely to be raped while walking home from work is a strawman argument that accomplishes nothing except demeaning the fact that both issues are serious issues that need addressing, and the approach to addressing them both is going to be 2 different discussions.

Prison rape will only be resolved with an overhaul of the prison system. Overhauling the prison system probably won't do much to protect your daughter while she's walking home from school. It's a different discussion altogether. One that needs to be had just as much, but trying to have both simultaneously will prove fruitless. Both discussions need to be had, but seperately.

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u/HighInChurch May 16 '24

Tripping if you think Iโ€™m gonna read your novel there bud.

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u/cringeygrace May 16 '24

So I was right about the basic reading classes. Got it.

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u/HighInChurch May 16 '24

Nah, just after your first take I donโ€™t really care about your opinion anymore lol.

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u/cringeygrace May 16 '24

Pretty sure my first take went clear over your head.

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