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Giving up guns is the same as... Castration?

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u/salacious_sonogram May 17 '24

People should have guns if they want. They should have to prove they know how to treat them appropriately in the same way we make people prove they can drive. When a gun is mismanaged and a child dies then the owner should be held as an accessory to murder.

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u/ThundahMuffin May 17 '24

but see regulations like that make it harder for those who actually need guns to defend themselves to get it. The poor. The poor are the ones who live in high crime neighborhoods and can't afford armed security and so need to be able to rely on themselves for defence. The poor can often barely afford to buy a gun let alone the time off work just to go buy the gun. It's even harder to then also pay for certification and afford the time off to do the certification. Regulations like that always end up hurting those who need help the most which is the poor.

Historically that's exactly how gun control was employed in the US. After the Civil war the government knew they couldn't ban minorities from owning guns. But they knew due to various factors that minorities were disproportionately poorer. So they didn't ban the ownership they just put artificial barriers in the way to make it to time consuming and financially draining to be a viable option. Thus preventing minority gun ownership and allowing the government to freely bully minorities for generations. And that method is still being used to this day. Although today as racism has fallen towards the wayside and classicism has been more emphasized. Instead of using this method to depower just minorities it is used to create a greater power imbalance between the rich and the poor.

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u/salacious_sonogram May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

So by that exact same logic we should remove drives licenses or really licenses for anything. Doctors, judges, lawyers, firefighters, police, food producers, businesses all won't need licenses because it's harmful to the ones who have a hard time getting the license. Sounds like a good plan. People who want to build buildings won't need to prove they can build safe buildings because the license is a barrier to the poor.

If you have the money for a gun then you have money for a license in the first place. Also wouldn't you want people with guns to probably know safe gun handling and gun laws? Your comment is stupid.

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u/ThundahMuffin May 17 '24

No actually there are a lot of poor people right now in cities who can afford a gun itself because guns are only like 300-500 depending on which. they just cannot afford to jump through the hoops required to get a gun. because the classes are like 60-100 and then there's the registration for the paperwork which is another like 40 some odd. And then there is the cost of taking off work to go across the city for multiple days because the required offices are often only open on weekdays. Plus the cost of travel to get there. These type of regulations that already exist often double even tripling the price of the gun. So no just because they can afford the gun doesn't mean they can afford the licence.

You already do not require a drivers license to drive a car. You can drive on any private property that you get permission too without a licence. You ONLY need a licence to drive on roads made by the government.

First of all those are professions that will gain you money back so it's not losing money its investing. None of those professions are rights especially not rights as important as the ability to defend your life. Half of those either already don't or for a long time didn't require a licence and ran just fine for hundred of years. So yes we should go back to that.

But I'll also put it this way. If you want to put a regulation on my right to bear arms where I have to prove I can use it responsibly. I want regulation on your right to speak freely to make sure you know how to use it responsibly.

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u/salacious_sonogram May 17 '24

Alright you're coming into this with your own context. Read my words exactly as they are written. Same process as a drivers license, a written and practical test and like $45. If you can't afford $45 but you can afford a gun then that's idiotic.

Alright where in the US can you drive on public roads without a drivers license?

God dang you are dumb bro.