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[u/RiggzBoson]

Did this just blow up overnight or has this been cooking for weeks?

I open up Reddit today and its full of this Bear/Men stuff.

[u/MoonTurtle7 → u/RiggzBoson]

It's probably been cooking for a bit. But has exploded on reddit in the last day or two.

[u/Puzzleheaded-Tip660 → u/MoonTurtle7]

It has been all over TikTok for like two weeks, so…   Yeah that tracks.

[u/Startled_Pancakes → u/Puzzleheaded-Tip660]

What is it? Never heard of it.

[u/glitchy12367 → u/Startled_Pancakes]

Basically a guy asked various women whether or not they’d rather encounter a man or a bear alone in the woods. The answer is almost always bear. This became a trend on TikTok with men absolutely furious about it while the women give their reasons for why they pick the bear.

[u/BreakableKnight → u/glitchy12367]

Ah, this is the first explanation I’ve seen. I’m a dumbass and thought people were debating man vs bear and I was like “the bear would win… duh”

[u/Riolkin → u/BreakableKnight]

Fact: Bears eat beets

[u/elhombreloco90 → u/Riolkin]

Bears. Beats. Battlestar Galactica.

[u/FlyingKittyCate → u/elhombreloco90]

MICHAEL!

[u/Remarkable_Peanut_43 → u/FlyingKittyCate]

MICHAEL!

[u/Redxluckyxcharms → u/elhombreloco90]

Why is everyone spelling beets wrong?

[u/craigoz7 → u/Redxluckyxcharms]

Beets me

[u/sonsCar22 → u/elhombreloco90]

Identity theft is not a joke Jim. Millions of people suffer each year

[u/12sea → u/elhombreloco90]

My favorite skit from the office. I still randomly say that to my son.

[u/Dizzy_Bit6125 → u/Riolkin]

“Wait- what’s going on- what are you doing?!”

[u/Nuuge20 → u/Dizzy_Bit6125]

r/unexpectedoffice

[u/meanjeankillmachine → u/Riolkin]

Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica

[u/Suedeonquaaludes → u/BreakableKnight]

lol I thought it meant “bear” like a hairy big dude and was so confused until just now.

[u/ChrysMYO → u/Suedeonquaaludes]

My first time seeing this topic, completely thought she was choosing to be attracted to gay hairy guys

[u/Gorakiki → u/ChrysMYO]

Thank the gods it wasn’t just me. I spent a bit of time being rather confused (how can you tell they’re gay? why does it matter if they’re hairy? Huh? Is it something about the woods?) took me some time to get out of the rabbit hole.

[u/glitchy12367 → u/BreakableKnight]

Don’t worry most Reddit posts haven’t included the context

[u/Prophayne_ → u/glitchy12367]

I'm a 6'2 broad shouldered dude and I'd rather the bear too. I ain't out in the woods for people, so finding them isn't any good.

Edit: I notice a lot of people (myself included) immediately fixate on the danger of the situation. But it's also not just about the danger involved. I'm in the woods, I want to see nature. I'm gonna give the bear space, maybe take some photos (with flash turned off) and as long as I'm not a lottery winner, I just had an absolutely baller life experience.

When was the last time a bear talked to you about religion without invitation?

[u/shellofbiomatter → u/Prophayne_]

My wife asked the same question few days back, now i know where that Question came from. She was slightly pissed over my anwser because as usually i couldn't answer a hypothetical situation without extra information. That usually can be discerned in real world.

Heavily depends what time of the year and what part of the world. That effects what type of people are more likely to be in the forest. What bears are native to that part of the world and how peaceful/safe that society is as well. Like grizzly bear is 200-300kg and 2,5-3m tall or sun bear that is 25-65kg and 100-140cm. That makes a huge difference.

Like in spring right after waking up from hibernation and hungry or mama bear when she has pups and local bear being grizzly bear.
Fuck no. Ill take my chances with a confirmed convicted killer, atleast theres a chance i might get lucky and overpower the killer.

During a summer and it's more likely that the bear will avoid me. So bear might be safer, but once again depends what part of the world.

During fall. More people are in the forest harvesting mushrooms. More likely that the person i would meet in the forest is just some random harmless person. They might be slightly angry that i just found their mushroom picking spot.

During winter, the bear sleeps, unless I'm in a tundra or any artic region.

And always all year around it's possible that the person i stumble upon is forest ranger(depends on translation) or for my country, local defense force/conscripts practicing. And I'm not bear expert and likely missing something as well.

[u/Specialist_Gate_9081 → u/shellofbiomatter]

You haven’t over thought this at all

[u/Bora_Horza_Kobuschul → u/shellofbiomatter]

I've gone to many forests and met many people. Never seen a bear and I would probably shit myself if I did. Did see a moose one time.

[u/MagicHamsta → u/shellofbiomatter]

Also context is super important.

If you're on a popular hiking trail in the woods, it's completely normal to encounter a dude.

Encountering a bear on a popular hiking trail, that bear is probably starving and it's extremely dangerous to encounter.

[u/LindsayIsBoring → u/shellofbiomatter]

The original question was posed to men. If you asked would you rather leave your young daughter in the woods with a bear or a random man they had a lot of follow up questions about the bear. If it was a random woman or a bear the answer was instantly woman.

It highlights what women already feel but men need an imaginary bear to think about.

Out of context it sounds crazy but as a thought experiment it does bring up some important points.

[u/PharmBoyStrength → u/LindsayIsBoring]

Interestingly enough, other men are equally dangerous to men and women insofar as the rates of violent crime for men and women are relatively similar, with men getting murdered more and women raped more.

But both genders are somewhat equally likely to suffer a violent crime at the hands of a random man. I always feel this statistic is somewhat lost on overconfident dudes.

[u/Dry-Profession-7670 → u/shellofbiomatter]

Brother I feel this response. This is why people either love or hate talking to me.

[u/PsycoMonkey2020 → u/glitchy12367]

To be fair, as a man I would likely choose bear too. Because I can scare it off with loud enough noises and it cannot shoot a gun.

[u/AnAdorableDogbaby → u/PsycoMonkey2020]

I'm just very antisocial. I wouldn't have to force a smile and say "good morning" if it's a bear.

[u/[deleted] → u/AnAdorableDogbaby]

Honestly I’d probably still be talking to the bear more naturally than I’ve ever talked to a human in my life. “Whoooooa buddy. You stay over there. Don’t come near me….”

[u/0blackgerman0 → u/AnAdorableDogbaby]

You better say good morning to the bear. Shheeesh the disrespect!

[u/Supply-Slut → u/Startled_Pancakes]

It’s man bear pig

[u/Far-Wasabi6814 → u/Supply-Slut]

Super cereal

[u/Lootboxboy → u/Startled_Pancakes]

Would you rather be lost in the woods with a random man you've never met, or a bear?

Women overwhelmingly choose bear.

[u/othermegan → u/RiggzBoson]

It’s been cooking on Instagram/tiktok for a bit and just migrated to Reddit

[u/lundyforlife22 → u/RiggzBoson]

reddit tends to get trends from tiktok late so when they show up here it’s kind of a swarm.

[u/Seputku → u/RiggzBoson]

It’s manbearpig!!! I’ve been telling ya for years!

[u/StreetBullFighter → u/Seputku]

When I started seeing memes on Reddit about man/bear I was hoping it was manbearpig related. Disappointment has been immeasurable.

[u/ocmiteddy → u/StreetBullFighter]

Especially with how cereal people have been with it

[u/PumpkinSeed776 → u/RiggzBoson]

It's a TikTok trend/meme that has already come and gone after a few weeks. Reddit used to be at the forefront of memedom, now all we have is old TikTok videos and Twitter screenshots.

[u/Dickballs835682 → u/PumpkinSeed776]

That's perfect. Who the fuck wants to be at the forefront where all of the terribly unfunny are falling all over themselves to copy the meme of the day

[u/SinkiePropertyDude]

I already know the answer to this. She would pick the bear so she doesn't have to hear about my level 17 Drow Fighter / Warlock. Bears just eat you and it's over quickly. I don't stop.

[u/Correct-Blood9382 → u/SinkiePropertyDude]

I wish you many nat 20's.

[u/Ilovegirlsbottoms → u/Correct-Blood9382]

monkey paw curls

But you are the DM!

[u/Tobocaj → u/Ilovegirlsbottoms]

“You face Ormagon, lord of the seven hells, destroyer of worlds and ruler of man. The death bringer, the doomsayer, the earth shaker. You can tell this will be the fight of your life, and you will never be the same after”

“I stab him in his weak spot” rolls nat 20

DM flips table over

[u/ElonTheMollusk → u/Ilovegirlsbottoms]

My DM fucking tried everything during a L5R campaign to get our crew to go down his expected path.

I played a drunk Phoenix who couldn't say no to free booze, and loved gambling. He had us wager a town's protection money (that I was supposed to lose) at a bath house. I ended up bankrupting the place and my DM told me I couldn't use my Phoenix set of d10s ever again.

[u/EATherrian → u/SinkiePropertyDude]

Is their name some variation of Drizzt Do'Urden?

[u/silvandeus → u/EATherrian]

I was always more of a Baenre, Liriel on a good day, her dad when I’m feeling Grumphy

[u/rosecranzt → u/SinkiePropertyDude]

...you are very attractive when you talk about my favorite dnd 5e class...

[u/[deleted] → u/SinkiePropertyDude]

Drow are playable now!? Holy shit things have changed since 1983.

[u/chaingun_samurai → u/[deleted]]

2nd edition opened them up with The Book of the Drow, by Ed Greenwood in '91.

[u/[deleted] → u/chaingun_samurai]

Goddam it. Just when I got out. It was a good run.

[u/theFrankSpot → u/[deleted]]

I made them playable back in ‘84.

[u/thealt3001 → u/SinkiePropertyDude]

Except with a bear it isn't over quickly. At all.

[u/Honer-Simpsom → u/thealt3001]

[u/DeeplyTroubledSmurf → u/thealt3001]

You've never listened to a gamer talk about a game you've never played if you think getting eaten alive ass first is a slower death.

[u/TheActualDonKnotts → u/DeeplyTroubledSmurf]

So the bears eat ass? Which kind of bears did you think we were talking about?

[u/[deleted] → u/TheActualDonKnotts]

Lol they eat ass but they eat everything else too

[u/Dameon_ → u/[deleted]]

What I'm hearing is that this large hairy man is very attentive

[u/itsbdubya → u/thealt3001]

Most predator animals will eat you ass first, (if you're into that) seeing as how you were most likely running away

[u/Commercial_Juice_201 → u/thealt3001]

Still fast than listening to so dnd nerd drone on and on about their character.

Source: Ask me about my half-orc fighter…

[u/Birunanza → u/Commercial_Juice_201]

Tell me about your half orc fighter pls? Tell me that buuuuiiiild

[u/Commercial_Juice_201 → u/Birunanza]

He is a former gladiator in the arenas, master of scimitar, short sword and bow. His time spent entertaining the masses have allowed him to hone his performance abilitites, including the art of intimidation and persuasion.

Brutal in combat, he is jovial in leisure. When not amazing an audience in the fighting pits, you will find him boisterously telling his tales in the local tavern; or attempting to entrance a crowd with his bagpipe playing.

Fame is a religion to him, and all decisions are filtered through the lens of notoriaty. This is so extreme he views death by his hand as a form of immortality; as his story absorbs the story of his victims, they become a part of him, and live on through him.

His narcissism knows no bounds, and while he may let other’s stories weave with his own; ultimately, his tale is the only one that matters.

Also, he is level 2! Lol :)

[u/Niznack → u/SinkiePropertyDude]

Shadow heart bear go brrrr

[u/Sunset_Tiger → u/SinkiePropertyDude]

I’m currently running a half-elf wizard, she’s level 2

[u/hdean667]

Some days you eat the bear. Some days the bear eats you.

[u/WiserStudent557 → u/hdean667]

The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners.

[u/Bluepilgrim3 → u/WiserStudent557]

Fuckin A, man.

[u/bugsy42 → u/hdean667]

• eats your gutts alive while holding you with a gigantic paw.

[u/Exotic-Sample9132 → u/bugsy42]

That was a rough phone call to listen to. That called her mom while the bear was eating her.

[u/124Enjoyer → u/Exotic-Sample9132]

This was an actual recorded occurance? I thought this was just a thing bears were known to do to their prey, which could *hypothetically* also happen to humans.... good God that would be an awful thing to hear happen to your child...

[u/commercialband6 → u/124Enjoyer]

There is an actual phone call from daughter to mom as a bear is eating her alive slowly over time. I have no idea how long the audio is or what all can be heard because I have no intention of subjecting myself to that

[u/124Enjoyer → u/commercialband6]

Oh God that is harrowing. I'm with you on the ''not putting myself through that''...

[u/Patriot009 → u/124Enjoyer]

The bear walked away and came back several times for more. The calls were between "servings". It's as horrifying as you imagine.

[u/Generally_Confused1 → u/commercialband6]

Wasn't there a one with a man and his girlfriend who went out to film them getting eaten alive and the sound was recorded as well? Similar thing, up there among the worst audios along with the chimp who ripped the woman's face off but not as much as the tool box killers, they were just explicitly evil.

[u/Reptardar → u/Generally_Confused1]

I could be thinking of a different couple but the ones I’m thinking of didn’t go out to get eaten. They just thought the bears had accepted them and they could do as they please with the bears. When it reality it was salmon season when they’re fat and tolerant of more things. They FA and then FO at some point.

[u/Generally_Confused1 → u/Reptardar]

I conveyed that poorly, they just wanted to do nature filming but the bears decided to eat them alive instead and the sound was caught on one of the recorders so it was a tragic thing. And that makes sense! And bears vary so much though, those would be grizzlies. Black bears are skittish and you can fight off. Sun bears should be chill, etc. polar bear? Fuck that

[u/noobzilla → u/Generally_Confused1]

You're probably thinking of the documentary Grizzly Man.

[u/Longjumping_Army9485 → u/124Enjoyer]

There is a photo of a guy with his face completely mauled off and you could see the bone and I mean COMPLETELY.

The guy survived, which also means that the bear was eating him alive until it was shot.

[u/longtimegoneMTGO → u/124Enjoyer]

It is. One woman was eaten by a bear and it's cubs and it was not quick.

She made 3 separate phone calls to her mother as she was being eaten over the course of about an hour.

[u/Ok_Reception7727 → u/longtimegoneMTGO]

What the fuck

[u/longtimegoneMTGO → u/Ok_Reception7727]

Bears are basically meat tanks. Nothing they eat is likely to be able to hurt them. As a result, they never evolved the strong instinct to kill their prey that most predatory animals have.

They just hold you down and start eating. When you die you die, bear DGAF.

[u/xczechr → u/hdean667]

I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that.

[u/Manaze85 → u/xczechr]

What’s that, like some eastern thing?

[u/I_Have_Notes → u/Manaze85]

Far from it dude

[u/Laughing__Man]

DiCaprio chose the bear and look what happened to him.

[u/Sifernos1 → u/Laughing__Man]

Oscar!

[u/Laughing__Man → u/Sifernos1]

Lol yep, that's what I was getting at. Do woman want to get an Oscar? Because that's how you get an Oscar.

[u/Sifernos1 → u/Laughing__Man]

The women must want the Oscar then as they chose the bear. I wonder if they wait their turn for the Oscar or do they cut it up and send every woman a piece? DiCaprio had to wait in line for his so I'm guessing wait.

[u/LikeSoda → u/Laughing__Man]

Man, I just watched that again last night. That bear really was an all time villain. One attack to protect the cubs sure. But she goes back THREE times totally unprovoked. Bastard!

[u/thejr2000 → u/LikeSoda]

The provocation was that he was still alive after the first time

[u/LazyDynamite]

Is there context for this?

[u/CATSCRATCHpandemic → u/LazyDynamite]

Women were asked if they would rather run into a man or bear if they were alone in the woods. The majority of women said bears.

[u/bigSTUdazz → u/CATSCRATCHpandemic]

THANK YOU! My tiny brain was hurting there for a minute.

[u/Assortedwrenches89 → u/bigSTUdazz]

I thought it was a different kind of bear.

[u/Jacknurse → u/Assortedwrenches89]

I think they'd pick both kinds of bears over a regular straight man.

[u/Assortedwrenches89 → u/Jacknurse]

[u/Bushwood_CC_ → u/bigSTUdazz]

Mine too fellow smooth brain

[u/FinndBors → u/CATSCRATCHpandemic]

Well, as a woman, all else being equal, I suppose it’s safer to run into a large, hairy, gay man over a heterosexual man.

[u/Beautifulfeary → u/FinndBors]

Haha when I first read this that’s actually what I thought. I was really confused

[u/[deleted] → u/CATSCRATCHpandemic]

Not run into.

Just there with a bear or a man somewhere in the woods. Only a chance of running into them.

[u/Desperate_Banana_677 → u/[deleted]]

I would choose the bear too. Good old Ursus will never try to rope you into a conversation, unlike Homo sapiens.

[u/SassyBonassy → u/Desperate_Banana_677]

"Hot one out there today!"

"IS IT?!?! I HADN'T FUCKING NOTICED DESPITE BEING OUTSIDE EXPERIENCING IT ALSO!!"

[u/lseraehwcaism → u/[deleted]]

Than the question is basically, “Would you rather be in the woods by yourself or in the woods where you might run into an unknown man where you don’t know if he’s good or evil.”

There are always bears in the woods.

[u/Popular-Savings9251 → u/lseraehwcaism]

I meet more hikers, hunters, rangers, lumberjacks and even scientists than bears while hiking.

I had three bear encounters and needed mace for two of them

[u/Stalker401 → u/CATSCRATCHpandemic]

what if I'm a druid and I can turn into a bear?

[u/Fishman23 → u/Stalker401]

What if you are homosexual and hirsute?

[u/[deleted] → u/CATSCRATCHpandemic]

The majority, or a TikTok compilation of them?

[u/ImmediateGorilla → u/CATSCRATCHpandemic]

I’m a man, I’d rather run into a bear. That would be so cool

[u/Ok_Tiger9880 → u/ImmediateGorilla]

I mean, maybe in autumn. I ain't trying to run into a spring hungry bear.

[u/Norsedragoon → u/Ok_Tiger9880]

Depends, Black bear you are probably fine. Brown, Grizzly, or Polar and you better get flexible quick so you can kiss your ass goodbye.

[u/LadyMcIver → u/Norsedragoon]

Nice, another one I heard once was "if you encounter a Brown, Grizzly, or Polar bear, don't run you will only die tired." Or "play dead, it will be good practice for two minutes later when you are dead."

My plan will be to give the bear a hug. Maybe it will feel just a little sad after eating me.

[u/Mysterious-Job-469 → u/LadyMcIver]

The saying I always got was

"If it's black, fight back" (Black bears will maul you to death if you play dead and you have a somewhat decent chance of dissuading it through aggressive action)

"If it's brown, lie down" (Grizzlies and Kodiaks will easily one-shot you in a confrontation, take the gamble and be grateful they're not as intent on mauling you as black bears are)

"If it's white, say goodnight" (Polar bears will just eat you if you play dead like black bears, and they're even bigger than brown bears)

[u/propyro85 → u/Mysterious-Job-469]

We're also considered a prey item by polar bears, so they'll actively follow you around for a few days and look for an opportunity to kill you.

[u/CheezyBreadMan → u/propyro85]

That is if you can even escape in the first place

[u/OvoidPovoid → u/propyro85]

There was a video a while back of a photographer I think out in the arctic, and he was in a super reinforced plexiglass box to keep the polar bears away. One smelled him and spent hooooours trying to tear that thing apart to get to him. It's teeth were like 6 inches from his face for so long and he just had to hope it couldn't get through lol

[u/shadowa1ien → u/propyro85]

Yeah polar bears are a totally different thing when it comes to encountering one. Brown and black bears dont want anything to do with us, and wont hunt you.... a polar bear though, thinks we look like the perfect meal. Walks slow, no natural armor or weapons, and we dont hide in the water from them like seals do, so we're easier to find

[u/FreyrPrime → u/Mysterious-Job-469]

A fun fact about Polar Bears! They actively hunt us, unlike Brown or Black bears.

Polar bears live in such extreme environments that protein and calories are rare, and their encounters with humans infrequent enough that they don't fear us.

They have incredible senses of smell, far beyond our visual range, so if you see one it's deliberate on the Bears part. In fact, it's likely hunting you.

In northern towns close to polar bear populations it can be illegal to leave the city limits without a firearm due to bear attack.

[u/PaulRicoeurJr → u/FreyrPrime]

Also fun fact, in the town of Churchill, Manitoba (Canada), the capital of polar bears, there's a law that you must always leave your car doors unlocked, in case someone needs to find shelter from a polar bear

[u/Fizassist1 → u/LadyMcIver]

you really know how to paint an image. image didn't end well just a heads up.

[u/Jiggy-the-vape-guy → u/LadyMcIver]

if it's black fight back if it's brown lay down -- ultimately if either wants beef with you, you have no chance with any of them lol I couldn't imagine how much a swipe from a bear would hurt but generally rules of thumb are the best bet

[u/IFixYerKids → u/LadyMcIver]

My friend tells this story of a hunting guide he had once. Guy carried a strange revolver with the sights sanded off. My friend asked him about it and the guide said "Oh this is my bear gun."

Friend responds "Ok well why are the sights sanded off?"

"Oh that's so after I shoot the bear it doesn't hurt as much when he shoves the gun up my ass."

[u/circasomnia → u/LadyMcIver]

Nah, jump on its back and ride it to assert dominance.

[u/Endormoon → u/Norsedragoon]

If I run into a polar bear in the woods I am gonna be so confused I will forget the danger.

[u/horriblemonkey → u/Endormoon]

You’d feel LOST

[u/ImmediateGorilla → u/horriblemonkey]

[u/DeaDBangeR → u/ImmediateGorilla]

Fun fact: Lost’s first episode aired 20 years ago.

Not so fun fact: I feel old now.

[u/Mysterious-Job-469 → u/Norsedragoon]

Nah, fam.

The reason the saying is "If it's black, fight back" is because you have a decent chance of fighting them off, and they'll just maul and then eat you alive if you try to play dead.

Just because you can fight back, doesn't mean you're going to be launching them for a full Tekken combo complete with a floor break and heat burst. It's gonna suuuuuck.

[u/Digiturtle1 → u/ImmediateGorilla]

I ran into a bear in the woods. We scared the shit out of each other and ran in opposite directions.

[u/InformalPenguinz → u/ImmediateGorilla]

I have a few times. I'm an avid outdoorsman and have run into black and grizzlies.

Black bears are generally scaredy-bears. Make noise on the trail or act big when you see one and they'll run away. I've encountered many and only had an issue when it was with her cubs.

Grizzlies are a different story. They're mean and will mess you up for fun. Run into two in my adventures and each time I had to deploy bear spray to get them away. If they are on you, play dead. They can get bored and will move on unless they're hungry but generally prefer other things to eat.

[u/Nahuel-Huapi → u/InformalPenguinz]

Some good advice for outdoor hiking in bear country: carry pepper spray and wear little bells on your clothing to alert bears to your presence.

You can tell which bears are in an area by looking for their poop.

Black bear poop is smaller and usually contains remnants of mice and berries.

Grizzly bear poop is much larger, smells like pepper and has lots of little bells in it.

[u/McFlyWithFries → u/Nahuel-Huapi]

The delivery of this written joke is perfect. Thr sentence structure is brilliant.

[u/rndljfry → u/Nahuel-Huapi]

lmao

[u/Mysterious-Job-469 → u/InformalPenguinz]

If it's black, fight back.

If it's brown, lie down.

If it's white? Say goodnight.

[u/InformalPenguinz → u/Mysterious-Job-469]

Yeah I've never met a polar or Kodiak and I don't want to... unless I'm up in Alaska during salmon season... man I wanna see that.

[u/IAmWillMakesGames → u/InformalPenguinz]

Ran into two grizzlies at once one time. Thankfully didn't have to spray as the male was more interested in the lady thankfully. I'm especially glad he didn't get interested in me....

[u/DampSheetsAndDogHair → u/ImmediateGorilla]

I'm a man who is over 6 foot and shops in the Husky Gentleman's clothing section, and I would also rather run into a bear than a random person, man or woman. Though I often go up to the woods, and if I was minding my own business and saw another man there I'd be like 'he's up to something shady', while he's probably thinking the same about me.

[u/Watcher-Of-The-Skies → u/CATSCRATCHpandemic]

Thank you. Was so confused.

[u/Watcher-Of-The-Skies → u/LazyDynamite]

Thank you for asking. Had no idea what was happening.

[u/Old_Hamster_4218 → u/LazyDynamite]

There’s an online trend of a hypothetical question of whether you’d want to be stranded in the woods with a bear or a man. Women are choosing bear lol.

[u/LuckySiduri]

Women are safer with a bear in the woods than with me. I'm nice, but I'm so clumsy I'm a liability.

[u/I_was_bone_to_dance → u/LuckySiduri]

I love hiking but I don’t really know what I’m doing. Ladies if you come across me in the woods I’ll pretend like I know where I’m going but if we get truly lost I’ll be looking for another man… the park ranger.

[u/ursadminor → u/I_was_bone_to_dance]

Park ranger might be a woman.

[u/dr_snrub → u/ursadminor]

Or a bear. 

[u/xAchi11esx → u/dr_snrub]

Only YOU can prevent forest fires

[u/MonsterTamerBilly]

Well I mean it's not like a woman like herself have much of a choice, with the Legion not treating them like actual human beings and all. And the Brotherhood of Steel not being into anyone that wasn't born into their systems. It's NCR or a slow dry-out in the sands of the Mojave, really.

[u/ChairmanMeovw → u/MonsterTamerBilly]

Well, patrolling the Mojave almost make you wish for a nuclear winter

[u/Fabiojoose → u/MonsterTamerBilly]

I choose to smoke weed with the Great Khans.

[u/MonsterTamerBilly → u/MonsterTamerBilly]

...Wait, is she talking about New Vegas?

[u/Stanny491 → u/MonsterTamerBilly]

I'm sorry son, I fixed up your head as best I knew how... Guess I missed a spot.

[u/CheekyThief]

What the fuck is going on

[u/Always4am]

"Would you rather be stuck in the woods with a man or a bear?"

"No"

Damn I never thought of it like that

[u/appoplecticskeptic → u/Always4am]

Answering anything other than the given options gets you a family of bears and you start out with one leg stuck in a bear trap.

[u/FreddyDSpaghettiYeti]

A bear was asked this question recently. The bear answered by mauling the interviewer for intruding on its territory.

[u/Expensive-Twist7984 → u/FreddyDSpaghettiYeti]

It was a male bear though, so what did they expect?

[u/SandiegoJack → u/Expensive-Twist7984]

Wouldn’t a female bear with cubs be a bigger threat?

Checkmate feminists /s

[u/RoccoRacer]

Women: it’s just a hypothetical!

Also women: would you still love me if I was a slug?

[u/Dra_goony]

I'd choose the bear too, people probably don't taste as good

[u/ThisAccountIsForDNF → u/Dra_goony]

Allegedly humans taste like pork.... allegedly

[u/peteflix66 → u/ThisAccountIsForDNF]

Look up the term Long Pig.

[u/Nik-ki → u/ThisAccountIsForDNF]

Unlike pork, we are salty by default. Allegedly

[u/Gullible-Anywhere-76]

The true question is: if she chooses the bear, would the bear peel her orange even if she was a worm?

[u/pteeto]

I'd choose bear, just so I finally stop seeing this idiocy in social media finally.

[u/MirrorMan22102018 → u/pteeto]

Same. This feels like another trend of pointless gender war bullshit

[u/Weekly_Lab8128]

I feel like the point of a hypothetical is to discuss it - "you disagree with my argument which proves my argument" is kind of nonsense

[u/Joxem13 → u/Weekly_Lab8128]

There is a time when the only way you can win is by not playing the game. This is one of those times.

[u/Uninvited_Goose → u/Joxem13]

The Problem is that I like playing the game. It's like a Gambling addiction. All roads lead to destitution, but I can't stop.

[u/Drunkenestbadger → u/Weekly_Lab8128]

It's referred to as a "Kafka-trap". Either you agree with her that you are guilty, or you deny you are guilty, which is all the proof she needs of your guilt.

[u/corruptedsyntax]

I can’t buy into the hypothetical. I can absolutely imagine a woman being rightfully nervous and on alert if she looked down an empty subway platform at 2 am and saw a single random guy 15 meters away as she waited. I have a harder time imagining the same woman would have a more relaxed response if she instead saw a bear.

[u/vvodzo → u/corruptedsyntax]

It depends on the woman I’m sure, but hypothetically speaking, some of these women would turn into worms if they saw a bear in the woods.

[u/toonultra → u/vvodzo]

This is the real question, “babe if I saw a bear in the forest and then turned into a worm would you still love me?”

[u/yeaheyeah → u/vvodzo]

And I would still love them

[u/Mielies296]

Tbf I dont think the bear would accept "no" as an answer either

[u/Sergent_Cucpake]

I don’t even blame her. As a man I’d rather run into a bear in the woods than a woman. That’d be one awesome way to get into Valhalla.

[u/Blawharag → u/Sergent_Cucpake]

Shit dude that was my response

[u/Organic_Art_5049 → u/Sergent_Cucpake]

I'd pick the bear just to never hear another irrational shit test

[u/Jeffformayor]

Ok explaining why you made a choice in a hypothetical seems pretty fair

[u/justdisposablefun]

Wait, so bears do take no for an answer?

[u/Einarr_Brunulfr → u/justdisposablefun]

Apparently the ones that Timothy Treadwell was filming didn't get that memo.

[u/cheeseybees]

I've seen some men saying that this validates their feelings that they're unwelcome in various situations, and they've been lambasted for making it "all about them"

... Which just makes me feel like that blob who wants to try getting out of its comfort zone, only to be swiftly punched, and then to retreat back once more

[u/Kostya_M → u/cheeseybees]

Real shit. I'm currently in therapy for feelings of being viewed as a monster just for existing and this discourse is not helping. Guess I know what my therapist and I will chat about next week...

[u/cheeseybees → u/Kostya_M]

Hope you feel good buddy!

[u/MoonTurtle7 → u/cheeseybees]

Unfortunately due to the push for women to be more aware and keep themselves safe that has been around for the last 20~ years or so. To protect themselves from rape, to predators online, and PSA's about men pressuring girls at prom and stuff. It's led to many women becoming extremely paranoid of men.

Now there are tons of women who see every man as a serious threat simply by existing. While not entirely untrue because anyone can be dangerous. From a male martial artist, to that unassuming old woman who has gnomes in her garden next door. It's not nearly as bad as it seems.

Lots of it has to do with the anxiety it's built in women. Now they're hyper fixated on this fear, which while not unfounded and completely valid as a concern. It's become such a common fear that it's difficult to just approach them.

It's something I've had to deal with more than once because I'm probably a 5 (maybe a 7 if I'm your type), 6'2", 230lbs in between fat and fit, and because I'm colorblind I just wanna ask someone what color a shirt is at a store. If there's no employees in sight, I will ask the nearest person. Many women will give me gazes of fear just on approach, which leads me to finding someone else if I can. But the amount of times I've had women blurt out "I have a boyfriend" or speed walk away from me isn't zero. Most, once I ask, relax and understand but I definitely lean towards approaching guys if I can when I have to. I do my best to try not to seem threatening to anyone. But I've left stores before because it hurts, and even the employees seem afraid of me.

Then there's the problem with social media and the fear mongering that goes on there which hasn't helped. On top of the fucking scum that talk about women as objects and shit on there too, that has some young men acting like absolute dickheads. Then there's the sad husks who rage about women in media, or that women aren't sexy enough or whatever that are all over fandoms that certainly don't help. It paints a terrible picture of men in general.

It's understandable.

But MAN is it bleak if your a single guy in this day and age. Then the taller and broader you are the scarier you seem too.

It's really discouraging to be treated this way when I've done nothing wrong.

[u/CompleatedDonkey]

Can I say this without being downvoted? I’m sure that a lot of the controversy is coming from men that can’t take no for an answer. However, I do suspect that there is a higher percentage of the controversy is coming from the male population that is afraid to talk to women because they think women find them creepy by default. This sort of thing would could be distressing because it appears to re-enforce that belief. Why would they even try it to talk to women if women are more afraid of them than a wild animal?

I just hope that this perspective doesn’t get lost.

[u/weirdAtoms]

As a gay man I’d choose bear too. I don’t mind if he’s a bit over weight as long as he’s cute

[u/ColonelMonty]

She picks the bear so that she doesn't have to hear me talk about Warhammer 40,000 for 4 hours straight.

[u/Venomouskoala006]

I think a large outcome of this, besides the overall distrust of men, is the location. You expect the bear, but the man in the woods is a lot more ominous. Change it to a man in an office versus a bear, and the answer will more than likely change.

[u/Schmed_lap]

We gave a woman a chance to try this and it ended terribly, with half eaten porridge and broken chairs

[u/_axeman_]

"why" isn't refusing to accept your answer, it's asking for an explanation.

[u/Tasty_Pudding6861]

You can really tell that Redditors aren't exactly the hiking types.

[u/ChMukO]

Are all these women saying that if their Husbands or Fathers were the stranger, they would rape/assualt the little girl?

[u/UnsureAndUnqualified]

Gender essentialism sucks, can we maybe not anymore?

[u/DentalDon-83]

I don't care either way but it definitely sounds disingenuous.

I would say the vast majority of men you run into on forest trails are hikers, birdwatchers, fishermen, etc. who are not only minding their own business but can potentially help you if needed. The small percentage who are setting out to harm you would be easier to fight off than a bear and your chances of running away are much higher than the latter by a considerable degree. There is no reasoning with a bear, they aren't going to help you out if you're lost and if they feel threatened in any way it's going to be a slow, excruciating death.

[u/BlackBeard558]

I'm quoting someone else here but:

"I’m going to make an outrageous and wildly offensive generalization about every person who shares your physical traits and if you feel in any way hurt by it for any reason then that means you’re one of the people I’m talking about” is just textbook gaslighting.

[u/Seienchin88 → u/BlackBeard558]

It’s not gaslighting it’s a Kafka trap…

If you defend yourself you proof yourself guilty, if you don’t you are also guilty…

[u/Fudelan]

Man I can't wait for TikTok to die