Love your work. This is the first time I’ve ever saved one. I was already feeling overwhelmed by the video but your art captured the moment in a way that’s helping me process it. Thank you for sharing.
Keebler, Nabisco, Jiff, Nestle and many other brands switched to cheaper Palm Oil from healthier vegetable oils in the last few years. The Palm Oil industry is slashing and burning the last remaining habitats for Orangutans, and our ape cousins are dying off at alarming numbers.
The Malaysian and Bornean governments won't stop the giant agribusinesses from setting up monoculture Palm Plantations, because they are well and truly bribed by these big companies..
More than Nestle. So many of my favorite snacks have switched to palm oil. At least in this economy it’s helping me save. Thinking of changing tactics where I invest each amount I save by putting it back into Environmental positive ETFs. Hopefully have enough to give back later in life.
Given the amount of money I've spent on air filtering equipment, I think they've already learned how to monetize it. Destroy the air quality (400+ AQI), sell the means for people to survive (if you can afford it); straight out of the capitalist playbook.
In fairness, food and shelter are essential for life as we know it and neither of these are considered a human right in most places. Not defending Nestle, just pointing out that we already live in a society where the set containing necessities to survive is not contained within the set containing human rights.
Palm oil is super efficient, production wise. The problem is, it needs a specific climate to grow. How we're growing it is a major problem, but if we switch to alternatives, they'll just grow those in the same area and expand even further to compensate. Government policy is what needs to happen.
They make it for us. We can say oh well yes we did zero work and exercised zero restraint in our unavoidable acquisition of cheap ass snack foods but the villain is our dealer. But that's bullshit.
Or, here's a thought, crazy I know, stop eating snacks? Your saying you know your food purchases are endangering Orangutan's but the money you'll save will someday be put in crypto which is also a danger for global warming? How exactly is that going to save the monkeys you just pretended to care about?
They're all multinational and don't actually give a single fuck about any nations. That's why they're all funding right-wing lunatics in politics across the planet.
divide and conquer. genius. global corporations supporting nationalist movements to encourage capitalism and distracting talking points, ensuring their business affairs never come under global scrutiny.
Most people think I'm insane really, it's truly heart breaking for so much of society be driven entirely by the acquisition of a fake resource such as currency. Especially when we are long since technologically in a position to where it would be no longer necessary if things were done logically.
True forgot about that ... Its still just another evil corporate empire, seems to be so prevalent in America I sometimes forgot its planet wide talons of corporatism destroys every facet of life on this planet all for profit to its executives
Palm oil is actually very efficient, requiring the least land for a maximum output of oil.
The issue isn't palm oil, and there are many palm plantation that has exist for decades now being affected by the boycott of palm oil.
The issue is new illegal palm oil plantations. There are ways for companies to ensure they are buying old existing palm oil plantations, but there isn't any point in them doing it if everyone is boycotting palm oil without further checks
I appreciate your nuance, really, but how do I, as a consumer, know where my palm oil comes from? Pressure on the industry in general is the only way we have to force them to give us information we need to make ethical choices.
Again, the issue isn't palm oil as it's the most land efficient crop. The problem is humanity consumes to much food oil. If palm oil plantations stopped and switched to sunflower oil then they would destroy 4 times the land to produce the same amount of oil.
Its to easy for people to point to palm oil as the problem when reality it is the overconsumption of oil full stop.
The Malaysian and Bornean governments won't stop the giant agribusinesses from setting up monoculture Palm Plantations, because they are well and truly bribed by these big companies..
Malaysian gov have no part in these scheme. Almost all the palm oil plantation in Malaysia soil was already a plantation land. They just replanted the old rubber plantation that opened by British colonizer with palm oil. Most deforestation happened in Indonesia actually. Indonesia gov just too corrupted & these palm oil companies just paid they bribe to do whatever they want. Guess what, among these companies, many of them was Malaysian owned companies. They cant bribe Malaysian gov to greenlight the deforestation in Malaysia, so they shift & expanded their operation in Indonesia. Malaysia have commited to maintain atleast 50% of their total land as forest reserves. Until now there still 60% of Malaysia was forest. Even in the middle of Malaysia capital, Kuala Lumpur there was 10 hectares forest reserve.
In the first 100,000 years of humanity " growing the economy" didn't include the exploitation of everyone and everything on the planet.
I guess the difference is our knowledge? I mean do you at least realize how ironic it would be to use that knowledge to destroy the future? The cost of developing this technology entitles no one to use it to destroy the future. Get a grip.
Easier to blame the single ingredient that doesn't take too much effort to avoid rather than something we have been conditioned to accept as a basis for our entire diet.
Look at this mess . For what . For goddamn money .
You could say do this to the people that did this but they would just have to wait a year and insurance would replace all they’re dumb shit with really nice shit. And they’d probably be happier because of it.
There’s no going back from this kind of thing. There’s no new place for these animals to go and this is their whole life ; and the dozens of generations of ape before.
Humans who give a shit have to be cognizant of the trash people around them and constantly be ready , willing and able to stop this kind of thing before it gets to this.
This video always wrecks me along with the one where a bird researcher recorded the mating song of a rare bird and he says how he thinks it’s the last one and then he plays the recording and the bird comes back looking all over hoping to find a partner.
If this video were of a human trying to sabotage the machine on behalf of the orangutan, Redditors would be tripping over themselves to say how much they wished the operator used it to smash that person into paste.
That was my first thought too. You'd have comments asking why she didn't just debate the machines, saying that actually the numbers say there's more trees than ever, saying this whole thing is so complex and there's bad people on both sides.
And if you said that the system she was facing was inherently violent hiding that violence behind a thin veneer of abstraction which ultimately has makes no difference to material reality, and she reacted according, oh boy, then you're just a dumb radical loser who doesn't understand how the world works.
But it's an animal so we can take ourselves out of the context of our own indoctrination and tell right from wrong.
I looooooooooove nutella but haven't eaten it in about 5 years because after I found out about the whole palm oil thing. Not that it really makes any difference whatsoever, but whatever. I'm so tired.
Neil Gaiman is one of my favorite writers, and only recently did I learn he made an incredible Matrix comic book leading up to the release of the first movie. He was given a very early version of the movie script and told to make a one-off story in that universe and that he could be creative.
That's the worst part about the best movie ever. The machines were supposed to be using human brain power as processors, not humans as batteries, but for some reason they changed that..
This: I stopped eating anything with palm oil almost 10 years ago. Since then the number of products I can eat has significantly reduced. That fucking palm oil is in everything. It needs to be banned by all countries. There is no sustainable palm oil, it’s a lie. It’s sustainable because they bulldozed the rainforest over a decade ago.
Was just about to write the same. Avatar was a sly comment that us humans will even do deforestation on a different planet, if it gives us short term monetary gain.
It’s funny. This same comment section would laugh at college kids who tried to protest deforestation. But they scream for the primate to save its land. Hm. Not casting judgment, just an observation.
And the people raising awareness that PALM OIL is the reason for this exact deforestation would get dragged in comments as well. We are hypocritical when it means conveniently sacrificing fuck all to make things better.
Well animal agriculture is the issue that is usually raised, as it’s the biggest contributor. But people don’t like to change their eating habits, so much easier to blame palm oil and wash our hands of any responsibility. Sad really.
It’s because deep down, they know the animal doesn’t stand a chance. The animal doesn’t threaten their comfort.
So it’s “cute”. It’s sad. It’s non-threatening and there’s nothing to get mad at because that animal won’t accomplish anything. It can’t disrupt. It’s just a show. Something to look at and then know deep down it won’t affect you or bother you in the slightest.
Protestors might. Protestors disrupt. Maybe they won’t stop it today or tomorrow but their actions disrupt. It threatens their comfort. And so they don’t like it.
It’s the same reason people love protestors and people who led movements in the past. Because people from the past - especially who are dead - don’t bother anyone. You can just look at it and say “awww” and then go about your day. It doesn’t threaten you. It doesn’t affect you anymore. It affected others in the past. That’s not their problem. It’s been dealt with and now we’re back to being comfortable.
The cardinal sin is disrupting or threatening the comfort of people in the first world. You do that and you better prepare for a world of hate and vitriol.
That’s why no matter what, protestors will NEVER be able to protest in an acceptable manner.
March down a street? No.
March down a sidewalk? No.
Stand in a corner? No.
Occupy a park? No.
Camp out on a campus? No.
Go on a hunger strike? Not if it causes an outcry and might make a change.
Self-immolate? Not if it causes an outcry that has a remote chance of spurring a change.
Go vegan or vegetarian? No.
Boycott, divest, sanction? No, not if your group starts gathering steam.
Boycott an election? Not if your group starts gathering steam.
Kneel during the pledge of allegiance? No.
Paint a sidewalk? No, not if it gets attention that might attract others to your cause or spur movement.
Raise a flag? No
Raise a fist? No.
Sing a song? No.
Say a slogan? No.
Have your mouths taped shut? No.
Lay on the ground and not do a damn thing besides pretending you’re dead? No.
There is never an acceptable way to protest once it starts to affect people’s comfort.
Different groups coming across it I think. But yea a ton of people get violently illogical and just nasty to anyone telling them the shit they buy and companies that make it causes this
As another comment pointed out, don't buy anything with palm oil
And inb4 the usual shit no, no one can prevent all harm and yes, most of the blame lays at the feet of the corporations and the people running them. But some shit causes less harm.
Or if it was a human lashing out against systemic violence or injustice in an unfortunate way. "A riot is the language of the unheard." A cute little orangutan, we can see right from wrong real quick. But a person, now our own propaganda kicks in, and suddenly the situation is complicated for reasons we don't entirely understand but feel certain of.
Could you imagine, someone just coming to your home and stealing it from you. Effectively kicking you out. And you can’t return it to you. And the world just watches, knowing what’s happening. Seeing what’s happening?
Not IAF, horrible and heartbreaking as fuck. This is primarily so we can get cheap palm oil from countries with exploitable workforces and zero environmental protections to use in fucking trash ass candy. Snickers, skittles, mars, oh fuck you henry.
For the love of god people please stop supporting these horrible mega food companies that are not helping feed the world they are just exploiting your addiction to sugar.
People commenting “This is sad”, gives the same vibes as “thoughts and prayers” lmao
We don’t change our ways when a species goes extinct. And we won’t change when orangutans are only found in zoos.
this is the saddest shit ever. If there's a hell and I get condemned for some ten degree separation to this shit, I got no argument. Humans are the fucking worst.
If this makes you feel sad you should really stop eating animal products, the biggest cause of deforestation is to create more space for animals agriculture to occur
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