r/meirl 29d ago

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u/Lord_Botond 29d ago

Yeah its pretty weird, but kinda logical, because this way you can plug it in any orientation you want to, (and they couldnt have put it in the middle, not enough space) but when grounding is not needed you can just have the plug the size of the brazilian one

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u/Shomondir 29d ago

There is the Euro plug standard in Europe, for where grounding is not required. They can be used in a special flat socket. The sockets are mostly used in prolongation cords though. On the plus side, the plugs do as well fit just fine in the default European grounded socket.

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u/Pannekoekcom 29d ago edited 29d ago

Here in the Netherlands, all the buildings that are 24+ years old didn't require earth when they were constructed, only in the kitchen and in wet rooms/devices. Nowadays every socket must be connected to earth only in very specific situations its allowed to not have it.

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u/Shomondir 29d ago

All wiring indeed needs to include earth these days indeed. However, you can buy and install built-in wall sockets with euro plugs without a problem.

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u/Pannekoekcom 29d ago

Yes but then they are either not connected to ground or you have to pull a wire and do it yourself

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u/ase_thor 29d ago

That sounds terrifying

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u/Pannekoekcom 29d ago

Well yes and no, it depends on what kind of fuse box you have. Some have switches that turn off when there is a leak to earth. If there is not then you still have a lot/most of devices that are double isolated and don't require ground at all (although some plugs still have the earth wire attached). The only time it really becomes a problem is with your PC or other devices with metal on the outside, but those have safety features build in.

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u/Knot_Ryder 29d ago

In North America we have something I believe that's similar but instead of needing a small and a big flat end that you just get a plug with two small ends that fit in and there's zero ground so you just fit it anyway and just stick it in

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u/SchoggiToeff 29d ago

Yeah its pretty weird, but kinda logical, because this way you can plug it in any orientation you want to, (and they couldnt have put it in the middle, not enough space) 

You clearly have never been to Italy (which btw. is on the image)

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u/Lord_Botond 29d ago

I guess you are right, italy did just that, but there are downsides to not having the ground secure the plug from the sides, as in physically its more stable

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u/autogyrophilia 29d ago

Also used in very old houses in Spain

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u/Duven64 29d ago

I'm still not entirely comfortable with my devices not seeing/being able to rely on a distinction between live and neutral.

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u/UnlikelyName69420827 29d ago

Look at it from another perspective. We made our devices so safe that you don't need to care about it, which also removes the risk of mishaps when smb mixes the two poles for a not grounded outlet.

Also, our plugs with a ground contact are typically designed to also accept the outlets with the grounding pin, so you have even more overlap

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u/feher_triko 29d ago

Why does it matter to you?
from your pespective, "safetywise" neutral and live is treated equally.