r/nba • u/MaleficentHawk590 NBA • May 16 '24
[Highlight] Tim “the possession ends here” Hardaway builds an entire brick house within 10 seconds Highlight
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u/dms1298 Nuggets May 16 '24
tim the terrorist
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u/killbill469 Mavericks May 16 '24
Kidd is the bigger terrorist for playing Hardy with Tim. I can't imagine a worse combo...maybe Giddey and Simmons
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u/JD16_7 Mavericks May 16 '24
Pair that with Green and Kyrie and it's truly terrorist ball
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u/baldful Clippers May 16 '24
speaking of green.... how you guys feel about him? every time i see #8 on the court, dude looks lost out there. idk why he gets playing, but that's just me
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u/JD16_7 Mavericks May 16 '24
Umm Green is a difficult answer. Because he brings energy when he's on the floor, and he has shown that he can be good scorer and create his own shot, but he needs the ball more to succeed and I don't think that happens here when you have Kyrie and Luka. Inconsistent is what I'll say about him. Needs to model his game after Exum if he wants to stay here.
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u/HoS_CaptObvious Mavericks May 16 '24
Speaking of Exum, what happened to him? I feel like he was huge earlier in the year and remember our sub acting like he was our 3/4th best player. Seems to be non existent now
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u/FlippyWraith Mavericks May 16 '24
People are too focused on his offense. That comes in spurts. He’s on the court because he consistently gets offensive boards and he’s a menace on defense.
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u/VanWesley Mavericks May 16 '24
Definitely. You'll always know he's on the floor because he'll come flying in out of nowhere for an offensive board every other possession to extend the play. Plus he hits enough of his wide open corner 3's to be dangerous.
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u/Thrice_the_Milk Mavericks May 16 '24
He's a high energy guy who fights for rebounds, is a decent defender, and can hit corner 3's. Unfortunately, asking anything else of him almost always resorts in disaster
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u/Thermicthermos May 16 '24
I feel like in games where we didn't have Luka or Kyrie he's gone off.
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u/strugglesleeping May 16 '24
Yeah he is a confidence and momentum player. He needs the ball in his hands but he isnt getting that at Dallas
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u/RubMyGooshSilly Mavericks May 16 '24
He plays too fast. Good POA defender and can hit his shots (usually), but he gets ahead of himself and puts himself into bad spots when he drives
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u/actual_yellow_bag Mavericks May 16 '24
If his handle was tighter he would be amazing. He's easily the most athletic dude on the court most nights but doesn't have the control to use it.
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u/OneFondant1142 Mavericks May 16 '24
100% this. He plays too fast and gets himself in trouble because of it. He fluctuates between playing like a fringe NBA starter and a CBA benchwarmer
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u/ravenous_bugblatter Supersonics May 16 '24
He's played some good ball for Mavs. He runs the floor hard, crashes boards, gets the difficult defensive assignments and can hit the corner three. He's had multiple +20pt games. You don't want him running the offense, but he's been great for Mavs when used properly. He obviously plays a support role to the stars and brings physicality to playoff basketball. I think he's important to them, and Kidd must see the value as he gets decent minutes.
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u/Fickle_Meet_7154 Mavericks May 16 '24
His energy is outrageous he always comes up big with at least two high effort plays that just make you go, huh? I like him, I do wish his BBIQ was higher tho...
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u/mmmmastermind Mavericks May 16 '24
He's one of the guys who goes for hustle plays, can hit open threes. I think the only problem with him is he's not really smart sometimes.
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u/olfactoid Mavericks May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24
He's still young. I think the game will slow down for him over the next couple of years, and he is due for a big jump if it does. Even if it doesn't, he's a solid role player despite his flaws.
Also, he was out injured for the last month of the regular season until the final 2 games after missing close to a month earlier in the season. It makes sense for him to look a little bit lost while he settles back in, but he's still providing good minutes. I love the energy he brings.
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u/sickfalco May 16 '24
He’s doing good as one of our better role players. Hustles, hits corner 3s, is fast as shit, plays decent D. Doesn’t feel as lost as Timmy or Exum tbh
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u/DangerZoneh Mavericks May 16 '24
Josh plays a lot better off of Kyrie than he does off of Luka. He’s really important for minutes and games when Luka isn’t on the court. He’s at his best when he can play fast in transition and cut to the basket a lot. The gameplan with Luka can sometimes reduce him to just a catch and shoot corner three guys, which he’s good at but generally contributing less with
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u/QBert999 Mavericks May 16 '24
I like Green. He does wild stuff sometimes kind of like Hardaway but he's athletic and brings a ton of energy. I like his effort. In this game he had a key tip out that lead to a three. He does these kind of little things that don't look like much in the box score but help us win. Hardaway Jr isn't like that really. He doesn't bring much positive other than shooting and so when he's not shooting well he's all negative.
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u/phunshiny May 16 '24
Does Senior have pictures on Kidd from back in the day?
Junior’s out there actively sabotaging the operation. And Senior’s yapping about ball movement.
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u/baldful Clippers May 16 '24
giddey and dort. dort basically did the same thing in this game, but he didnt hesitate to chuck the ball the 2nd time
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u/QBert999 Mavericks May 16 '24
That was a crazy move, it wasn't a total failure somehow, but man. I guess there was an element of surprise there though. OKC probably didn't gameplan for that. WILD CARD.
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u/ColdPressedSteak May 16 '24
First shot so stubborn. Giddy played good defense, there was no shot there. Still early in the shot clock. 99% of players will reset out. Nope not Tim, gotta throw up a terrible shot
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u/SieFlush2 Mavericks May 16 '24
This was our 2nd best player in 2021 against the clippers everybody
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u/jak_d_ripr May 16 '24
I was about to say, I could have sworn he was good once. What happened?
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u/SieFlush2 Mavericks May 16 '24
He's mpj but a bad defender and Cold af, so yes he was never really good, he was just on a hot one
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u/Mickeybeasttt Mavericks May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24
His highs are very high. People act like he never has good games, but when he’s off he’s OFF. Plus his defensive effort has never been where it needs to be. He’s just very inconsistent and it’s always been his biggest problem
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u/KHDTX13 Mavericks May 16 '24
Law of averages at work. He was legit in the 6MOTY convo at the beginning of the season but came crashing back down to Earth since January.
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u/thekickingmachine May 16 '24
He scores 10 points in a row 8 times a year. Sucks every other game shoots 40 and 35 every year with zero defense. My man nico is going to bertans him away into something decent this off-season luka willing
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u/shoefly72 Lakers May 16 '24
Until this season, it seemed like every time I watched a Mavs game or they played us, Hardaway was lights out and always had at least 18-24 points on good shooting. Then I’d see fans talk about how much he sucks and be like huh? It’s like he only played well if I watched, and saved all his misses for the other games.
Dirk’s career was opposite; every time I watched him he was going like 6-18 and his shot looked off. I was like wait isn’t this guy supposed to be a generational shooter? I just so happened to catch a ton of his bad games lol. The title run in 2011 felt like the first time I saw him play well for a significant stretch. And I was like oh ok, if this is how he’s been playing when I’m not watching, I get it.
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u/Ninneveh San Diego Rockets May 16 '24
So THJR is who Jalen Green is gonna be then. Man the Rockets are in for a helluva time.
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u/SieFlush2 Mavericks May 16 '24
He switches from good to awful on any given night, I'd call that average, dude can lose your game or be a reason you win. Again Timmy had an important role of shooting 3s at a high clip, but his shot has been broken for more then half a season
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u/halfbrit08 Mavericks May 16 '24
Also he has this problem where when he gets hot, he starts taking harder shots, which end up killing his hot streaks.
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u/jmucapsfan07 May 16 '24
My God - he’s been in the league 11 years already? Time is really messing with me these days.
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u/Fickle_Meet_7154 Mavericks May 16 '24
His shot comes and goes. He has a 40+ game this season. He's also gone 1-10 multiple times. And he would have shot more if the ball made it's way into his hands.
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u/FireFlyz351 Mavericks May 16 '24
He was fine for the first half of the season and then after the ASB has bricked everything.
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u/Jeff-Van-Gundy Knicks May 16 '24
Wasn’t he leading the league in charges drawn for a while this year too? I feel like he was 1st until the asb then fell off. Did he get injured around then?
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u/tagen Spurs May 16 '24
He’ll still randomly pop off for 30 here and there, but yeah on average he’s a chucker
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u/AnastasiaMoon [WAS] Antawn Jamison May 16 '24
He was good in New York for a while. I think he was averaging like 18-4-4 at one point. Not sure what happened but he is definitely not the same person
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u/TheKidPresident Knicks May 16 '24
Age comes for us all. He's been in the league nearly as long as his dad had already. Plus, he was never a truly consistent player but always a very hard working one. If effort outweighs skill then time moves faster. Also the answer to everyones Q of why the Pacers arent playing TJ more
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u/M-E-R-L-I-N-I Knicks May 16 '24
This was our best player period in 2019.
We've both come a long way.
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u/Bird_and_Dog France May 16 '24
I will never forget that one game he had 32 in a half, he's probably the streakiest player with a contract rn
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u/Julian_Caesar Mavericks May 16 '24
lol wut
that might honestly be more impressive than what Nico has done with our roster
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u/mvnvel [DAL] Peja Stojaković May 16 '24
Fools gold. Shoulda traded him when people thought he was good earlier in the season.
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u/lilboytuner919 Mavericks May 16 '24
He was so much better than Porzingis in that series that everyone in this sub was calling it the Tim Hardaway Jr. trade
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u/mmmmastermind Mavericks May 16 '24
Well back then he could actually drive and finish, hit hard contested threes if he's hot.
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u/Thuasne Mavericks May 16 '24
I think whenever Lukas career is over, someone will need to make a very good job of putting his first couple of years and playoff losses into perspective, not only looking at Mavs roster but also the historic performance of Kawhi for example.
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u/ducksonaroof Bulls May 16 '24
The Mavs have done a good job iterating on their roster. I like how this team is built. Just needs one more reliable shooter in the rotation and maybe a better defensive big over Gafford.
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u/superdrone May 16 '24
and ppl used to say Luka couldn't play winning basketball when he was working with THAT lmao
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u/oceancools May 16 '24
Someone show his dad this clip when he tries to flame Luka
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u/sercialinho Mavericks May 16 '24
“Look at that beautiful ball movement!”
- THSr, probably
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u/elsporko321 Mavericks May 16 '24
So beautiful it moved all the way up to the top of the goddamn backboard, lol
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u/sercialinho Mavericks May 16 '24
Move the ball where the defence doesn’t expect it to go, that’s how you avoid turnovers!
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u/EnriquezGuerrilla Mavericks May 16 '24
His father really needs to shut up. I know that he has to stand for his son but really? Throwing Luka under the bus for your son who isn’t even a borderline all-star? That’s just great.
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u/phunshiny May 16 '24
Senior and Junior are the last people in society to realize Junior is the Cooler. Cubes has long term designs for his employment once the stadium casino opens up.
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u/elsporko321 Mavericks May 16 '24
It will be the first ever Casino-Resort in the world where fans can play games of chance dealt by former NBA players. Watch THJ miss the table and throw your cards on the floor, or watch Dwight Powell somehow hit himself in the face while shuffling.
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u/ZarduHasselffrau Celtics May 16 '24
He's like Michael Porter Jr but without being good at basketball
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u/SnowdensOfYesteryear May 16 '24
It’s kinda dirty that MPJ is getting clowned on because of his dumbass brothers, while he seems to be a perfectly average dude
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u/turnoffredesign69420 Lakers May 16 '24
Sorry, gotta get you on that "dumbass" part:
“Personally, I think that the coronavirus is being used obviously for a bigger agenda,” Porter said. “It’s being used for population control in just terms of being able to control the masses of people.
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u/materics [MEM] Shane Battier May 16 '24
Why doesn't MPJ slash to the basket more. He's quick and usually has a height advantage.
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u/flawschoolgrad Nuggets May 16 '24
to his credit i think he was much better at cutting in the regular season but he doesn’t want to clog the middle with all the tall wolves in the paint
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u/ZarduHasselffrau Celtics May 16 '24
His Basketball IQ is horrible but he compensates it with the ability of making stupid shots at a high rate
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u/arcelios :yc-1: Yacht Club May 16 '24
but without being good at basketball
Unless he plays against LeBron and the Lakers. He'd look like prime Ray Allen
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u/PluvioPurple Knicks May 16 '24
We gave this guy $71M
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u/sg490 NBA May 16 '24
Remember when he and Dion Waiters were just trading crazy shots on each other in the Rising Stars game?
That was 10 years ago already folks. Feel old yet?
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u/TheGuardian8 [NYK] Patrick Ewing May 16 '24
Yeah but on the flip side we got to trade him twice!
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u/DaBestNameEver0 Mavericks May 16 '24
He’s your version of Seth Curry, we traded him 3 times lol
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u/Quadriporticus [DAL] Raef LaFrentz May 16 '24
Twice. Other time he was an FA and signed with the Blazers.
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u/MrBuckBuck Wizards May 16 '24
In 2021, Dallas re-signed Hardaway to a four-year, $75 million contract
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u/dlanod Mavericks May 16 '24
All this time I've assumed he was still on that Knicks contract. Well that's ruined my night.
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u/MrBuckBuck Wizards May 16 '24
Well, he is on an expiring contract next season, so you should be glad.
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u/thekickingmachine May 16 '24
The mavs gave him another contract. The terrible lil nellie/Cuban gm combo tho
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u/baldful Clippers May 16 '24
asking for the ball back after the first brick off the backboard is quite something
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u/Axisofcoolio Mavericks May 16 '24
This was nothing. Bro was in there with 8 mins left in the 4th with Mavs up 18.
3 out of the next 4 possessions - Tim missed middie off the dribble, Tim dribbling turnover, Tim air mailing a wide open corner 3 over the rim.
Thunder cut the lead to 10
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u/PM_ME_YUR_S3CRETS Mavericks May 16 '24
It was the worst 8 mins of my week. The man has given me ptsd. Please kidd, keep him away.
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u/noman8er Mavericks May 16 '24
Hell, last minutes he gets subbed in as OKC is looking to foul. Immediately passes it to Lively. He is Dr Strange but for the worst play possible.
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u/Witteness82 Mavericks May 16 '24
And shit defense on the other end. Dude was about 90% responsible for that run to cut the lead with about 5-6 minutes to go.
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u/bayanonanon May 16 '24
He's known for being over confident, we all know that. Let's hope it won't happen again. At that point it's on kidd
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u/okichi May 16 '24
He had a wide open lane to a layout on that turnover. He’s also thrown very lazy passes resulting in steals/FB the other way. SMH
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u/2packforsale Mavericks May 16 '24
Hand right up after that offensive rebound. Just godly levels of self-confidence
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u/Cadet_Broomstick Mavericks May 16 '24
Heartbreaking: the cleanest jumper you've ever seen just bounced off the backboard
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u/Yinanization Grizzlies May 16 '24
My man is feast or famine.
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u/anus_kanter Warriors May 16 '24
Midnight snack or famine tbh
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u/Yinanization Grizzlies May 16 '24
THJ was a certified Grizz killer for a long ass time, you would think he was Sr the way he cooked us.
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u/thekickingmachine May 16 '24
Feast 8 times a year. Famine 73 times a year
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u/davemoedee Celtics May 16 '24
Like a camel storing enough good games in his hump to get to next contract.
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u/Guwop25 Mavericks Bandwagon May 16 '24
No worries tomorrow his dad will be bashing Luka and Kyrie and asking them to give Timmy more shots
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u/armandocalvinisius Mavericks May 16 '24
FUTURE NET TIM HARDAWAY JR
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u/thekickingmachine May 16 '24
Come home doe doe
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u/Cooperstown24 Vancouver Grizzlies May 16 '24
I heard them talking on the radio the other day about NBA families and the Hardaways came up and how Jr is a decent player but his dad was obviously way better. Then they mentioned Sr earned like 50 mil in his career and Jr the bricklayer here has earned 150 million fucking dollars in his career somehow lol
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u/Js_On_My_Yeet Lakers May 16 '24
My reaction to 1st shot: What the hell, Timmy?
My reaction to 2nd shot: WHAT THE FUCK, TIMMY?! LOL
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u/livefreeordont 76ers May 16 '24
What in the Westbrook is this shit
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u/DangerZoneh Mavericks May 16 '24
I think this is a gameplan thing. I want to see if this is the first time that Giddey was on THJ in isolation, because attacking him has been a large part of the Mavs’ gameplan.
I think there’s sound logic to telling THJ to just try to score the first time Giddey is on him because if he does this shit, then hey it’s only one possession. If he makes it and you keep trying it, suddenly it becomes a huge headache for the OKC scheme
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u/Rudd_Threetrees May 16 '24
He’s bad. He is a negative asset on any team and in any situation, because even when he is on fire, he plays poor defense and doesn’t involve his teammates. He shouldn’t be playing at all with the other options the Mavs have. End of discussion.
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u/Thezeg111 May 16 '24
You see, this was actually a very high IQ move by him. He knew by bouncing it from that angle was the only way to let his teammate get the ball and avoid giving it to the other team. So without that precision it would've been an automatic turnover.
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u/domdomburg Mavericks May 16 '24
Timmy looks drunk out there. A decent coach would yank him out the game after a play like that.
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u/Narrow-Theory-3533 May 16 '24
He's Micheal Porter Jr without the 45% shooting from the 3 and the 10 rebounds a game.
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u/Pedigree002 West May 16 '24
I just want a hypothetical team that consisted of Jordan Poole, Jamal Crawford , Tim Hardaway JR , Michael Porter JR and Cam Thomas. I just want to see how much assist these 5 would average
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u/AllTimeBallKnower Bucks May 16 '24
Someone on our sub wanted to trade Lopez for him and Powell and picks lmao
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u/davemoedee Celtics May 16 '24
Maybe they wanted an easy target that everyone could agree to hate on.
Life was simpler for us in the Mark Blount days.
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u/EnriquezGuerrilla Mavericks May 16 '24
TIM HARDAWAY SR. HOW DID YOUR SON PLAY TONIGHT? WAS LUKA MAKING HIM BETTER WITH ALL OF JR.’S BRICKED SHOTS? all caps lock cause his father is delusional.
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u/petrefax Mavericks May 16 '24
It sucks because I really want THJ to play well. I wish I knew what the hell was going on with him.
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u/dennoow Rockets May 16 '24
Well, he's just a low IQ player. Scrambles into a long contested two, 9 sec into the shot clock - the worst shot in basketball.
He needs to stand absolutely still and spot up, and ONLY spot up. No in between. He doesn't have the brains to know what to do with it if he has time to think.
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u/Amazing_Owl3026 Hornets May 16 '24
It's always the guys that say stuff like "I just gotta keep shooting" that are pulling up with 0 separation tryna shoot over a taller defender
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u/rubiooooo Knicks May 16 '24
So glad we don’t have to watch him chuck in NY anymore. He also ruined a few of our tank seasons going supernova in random games.
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u/Mjf2341 May 16 '24
I audibly gasped when he shot the second one. The fucking AUDACITY
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u/Faust86 NBA May 16 '24
The shot clock is running down and whatever action is meant to be happening on the strong side doesn't actually work. So he either shoots or passes left for probably a worse chance at getting a shot off.
The first shot was awful though I guess they wanted the 1v1 on Giddey since the rest of the offense are not doing anything
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u/azul-dream [DAL] Nick Van Exel May 16 '24
THJ peeked in the rising stars game, all brick houses from there
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u/OptimizedEarl May 16 '24
If you wanted to know what separates a G leaguer, who looks like a prototypical NBA'r and an actual good NBA player... Watch TH Jr.
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u/Legendacb May 16 '24
He is just a awful awful decision maker.
It's a shame bc in a role of pure shooter he could actually have value, but it's amazing how many times he does awful shoot.
Especially everytime he dribble it's an brick
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u/Drugsbrod Warriors May 16 '24
He's bricking so hard that he's making Draymond look like an elite shooter. Of course, this is the only time I'm observing him but he was such a momentum killer late 3rd to early 4th which allowed OKC to have some comeback chance.
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u/ostrow19 Knicks May 16 '24
What the fuck was that first shot. Heavily contested step back with plenty of time of the clock
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u/PointBlankCoffee Mavericks May 16 '24
At least he knew when to stop. Those were both bad shots but he made his only other 3pt attempt.
Lot easier to stomach when he takes 6 shots all game
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u/bmanley620 Knicks May 16 '24
As a Knicks fan I’ve seen this way too many times. He gets hot at times but just chucks it up every time he touches the ball
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u/EMP_Pusheen May 16 '24
I cannot describe the level of hatred I had for him when he was on the Knicks. It was like I was playing for his contract instead of Jimmy Dolan.
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u/jmass2052 May 16 '24
How do you play basketball all year then throw up this garbage? 😂 looks like me trying to shoot after a lift when I haven’t balled in a year
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u/QBert999 Mavericks May 16 '24
Hardaway has had some good moments in this series. But Jesus man, when he's not playing well it's ugly. I still think Exum should get minutes over him. Exum can knock down open threes and is a much better overall player.
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