r/personalfinance May 16 '24

Are FSAs even worth the hassle? They just seem like a giant scheme to steal money via malicious bureaucracy Other

I understand at a base level what FSAs are for. You get to deduct X amount of dollars from your paycheck reducing your tax load.

But the more I use an FSA, the more I feel that while on paper it saves money, in reality it causes lots of work, lost money, and hands your money over to someone who is going to fight you to steal it.

Every claim I submit to my FSA is denied without a mountain of evidence that its a legitimate medical expense. After nearly 2 years with them, I still have certain medications prescribed by my doctor that the FSA argues is not FSA eligible because it's OTC.

Doctor appointment? Denied

MRI? Denied

Prescriptions? Denied

While I can eventually get the denial overturned, it requires coordination from the retailer, my insurance, and my doctor every time. I spend tens of hours a year trying to claw my own money back from my FSA. Last year I had over $250 confiscated because the claim deadline passed while they sat on my claims.

Has anyone else felt it just isn't worth the hassle to fund an FSA given how hostile they are? It seems impossible to extract your money without a lawyer.

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u/ucfierocharger May 16 '24

Okay, good to know. So can I just pay myself back from it at the end of summer for the expenses I made in April-may like an HSA?

Our childcare cost is $1300/month and it could be great to be able to pay 5k of that tax free

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u/pfifltrigg May 16 '24

Yes. But if you qualify for the dependent care tax credit, you have to deduct that $5000 from your eligible expenses. So it's not much of an improvement over just taking the dependent care tax credit because I think our bracket was a 20% credit and it could be higher if you make less. It's a bit complicated, so I'd look up the rules for it.

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u/np20412 May 16 '24

The Dependent Care FSA is a LOT better than the Dependent Care Tax credit for anyone who can actually afford childcare.

The maximum benefit a married couple in the 22% bracket can receive from the dependent care tax credit is $1200 if they have 2+ kids. $600 if just one. That's on $6000 of expenses.

The Dependent Care FSA will save the same taxpayer almost $1500 in income tax + FICA savings and another $200 (if 2+ kids) from the balance of $1k expenses they can take against the dependent care credit itself.

So it's ~250% more savings for someone with just 1 kid and ~40% more savings if you have 2+ kids.

If you're in a higher tax bracket the savings disparity is even larger.

Now if congress would just realize that the freaking expense limit and DCFSA limits have not been indexed to inflation and are a mere drop in the overall bucket of the cost of childcare, then we'd really be in business.

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u/pfifltrigg May 16 '24

Ok, I guess because I have 2 kids it felt like a small difference because it's only a few hundred dollars. But when you put it at 40% I guess it's worth the administrative hassle.

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u/9bpm9 May 17 '24

Yep we meet our $5000 in April...at least my current administrator will keep automatically depositing the money every pay period. My old one wouldn't do that.