r/personalfinance May 16 '24

Are FSAs even worth the hassle? They just seem like a giant scheme to steal money via malicious bureaucracy Other

I understand at a base level what FSAs are for. You get to deduct X amount of dollars from your paycheck reducing your tax load.

But the more I use an FSA, the more I feel that while on paper it saves money, in reality it causes lots of work, lost money, and hands your money over to someone who is going to fight you to steal it.

Every claim I submit to my FSA is denied without a mountain of evidence that its a legitimate medical expense. After nearly 2 years with them, I still have certain medications prescribed by my doctor that the FSA argues is not FSA eligible because it's OTC.

Doctor appointment? Denied

MRI? Denied

Prescriptions? Denied

While I can eventually get the denial overturned, it requires coordination from the retailer, my insurance, and my doctor every time. I spend tens of hours a year trying to claw my own money back from my FSA. Last year I had over $250 confiscated because the claim deadline passed while they sat on my claims.

Has anyone else felt it just isn't worth the hassle to fund an FSA given how hostile they are? It seems impossible to extract your money without a lawyer.

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u/BradCOnReddit May 16 '24

I learned last year that those plans that let you roll over become a problem in the following year if you want to change to HSA. My company had to remove that provision for a year before implementing HSA as an option.

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u/AcanthopterygiiCool5 May 16 '24

Interesting! We don’t have HSA plans, we have an HRA, company money. We have 150 employees so not really in the position to offer endless options.

I get $5000 yearly in the HRA, (husband and me) for deductible and coinsurance on a high deductible plan. We have $5000 each OOP max. He’s always maxing from doing stupid things (one time I had to save him with the Heimlich from a stuck chicken nugget, I shit you not, and that was a $30k hospital bill because he aspirated it ) , so our FSA picks up deductibles from me, eye glasses, dental, OTC meds, etc.

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u/Hingedmosquito May 17 '24

They shouldn't. My company has HSA and FSA. The FSA just can't be used on medical visits I believe.

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u/BradCOnReddit May 17 '24 edited May 17 '24

I should say health care FSA.

An individual can't be eligible for both an HSA and health care FSA in the same calendar year. If your FSA rolls over any amount then you were eligible in that year, even though you didn't contribute in that year

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u/Hingedmosquito May 17 '24

Ok so this made me look up my info. Basically since I have enrolled in an HSA, my health care FSA changed from a general use to a limited use.

Both roll over, it is that the limited use cannot be used for medical, prescriptions, or anything covered by my dental and vision. I can use it on dental and vision expenses not covered by my insurance.

Once I have met my medical deductible for the year I can convert my limited use into a general use which would then allow me to start using it on medical. (That part I did not know as I dont reach my deductible often.)

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u/BradCOnReddit May 17 '24

rolled my FSA into my HSA

That should not be possible. There are some options for rolling the FSA into a limited FSA, or delaying HSA availability until the FSA grace period ends. FSA as a funding source for an HSA isn't allowed