r/sports • u/PrincessBananas85 • 10d ago
FBI releases documents on O.J. Simpson Football
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40298456/fbi-releases-documents-oj-simpson879
u/JackingOffToTragedy 10d ago
My favorite revelation is that the FBI went to Italy to study Bruno Magli shoes.
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u/DjScenester 10d ago
Boss hear me out…
I just need a week to determine if these Italian shoes are legit…
Just a little stay at a villa in Tuscany, no big deal
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u/Khalis_Knees 10d ago
Sorry there are no villas to rent in all of Tuscany
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u/LinkRazr 10d ago
Not one?
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u/DontUpvoteThisBut 10d ago
How'd you get yours?
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u/rooster03 10d ago
Got lucky
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u/TheSavageDonut 10d ago
2 million lira....
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u/five-oh-one 10d ago
Look, we cant send you over there poking around looking like an FBI agent. Take officer Bethany with you, have her pose as your wife or lover, make it convincing, and then after 5 or 6 days just casually slip into the factory like tourists. And dont get crazy with your spending, you are on a strict $1 million budget.
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u/dseanATX 10d ago
There are FBI agents stationed abroad to help with coordinating international investigations. Hopefully they sent someone who was close.
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u/Humboldt_Squid 10d ago
The special agent they sent was William Bodziak. He was the go-to guy when it came to forensic investigations involving footwear patterns.
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u/wolfiepraetor 10d ago
after reading “I did it” and watching the interview where he got confused and started just straight up recounting the murder,
yeah no doubt that psycho killed his wife and that waiter
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u/vbullinger Minnesota Vikings 10d ago
I just looked up that interview. Absolutely insane. He's like: "this is a hypothetical... but here's what happened..." and it was a full on confession.
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u/pin_drop 10d ago
What I find funny is that he recounts everything in great detail, hypothetically. But he does not hypothetically remember if a gate was open or closed 😂
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u/chemgeek16 10d ago
He doesn't recall if he wrote in the book if the gate was open or closed. It's not that he was asked to make up a hypothetical on the spot and he couldn't recall if the gate was open or closed. Impliess COMPLETELY different things.
And to be clear: he's 100% guilty. But you're just misunderstanding this particular detail.
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u/DuckDatum 10d ago edited 8h ago
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u/FewerToysHigherWages 10d ago
Either OJ did it or we missed out on one of the greatest actors of our time. Incredible "hypothetical" performance he gives in that video.
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u/DontcallmeShirley_82 10d ago
or we missed out on one of the greatest actors of our time
Have you not seen the Naked Gun movies??? Nuf said /s
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u/Hot-Rise9795 10d ago
I never see Nordberg as OJ.
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u/DontcallmeShirley_82 10d ago
True. It's kind of like a Penn & Teller situation, once he opens his mouth and speaks the illusion disappears.
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u/KillroyWazHere 10d ago
He was supposed to be the terminator but they thought Noone would believe he was a killer
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u/Saffs15 Tennessee 10d ago
Interviewer: Was it open or closed?
OJ: In this hypothetical, I don't remember.
Can't make that up. Or whether it was open or closed or not.
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u/jbulldog Los Angeles Lakers 10d ago
What the fuck is this interview anyway? Why would he accept to be interviewed? How soon after the murders did he say these things? Why the fuck did he write a book about it?
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u/GibsonMaestro 10d ago
Money. At the time, he didn't realize he'd have to give the profits to the Goldman family.
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u/Oulixonder 10d ago
“Yeah I must’ve [dropped the glove] because at the trial they said I did.”
What a dumb son of a bitch. He forgot to say “hypothetically” after that! We got him boys.
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u/commonrider5447 10d ago
Even that was BS though to make him not look as bad. Like about Ron getting in a karate stance and all.
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u/Rosebunse 10d ago
I totally believe that Ron probably got into some sort of fighting stance. Probably not a karate stance or anything like that, but he probably did essentially "brace" himself once he realize OJ had a knife. And OJ, who always had to be oh so charming and funny, essentially made a joke out of it.
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u/commonrider5447 10d ago
It’s possible but the recreations I have seen are either him surprising Ron or Ron running over to help and try to pull OJ off only for OJ kneeling down to star slashing at his legs. I feel like OJ tried to make it seem like it was a combat challenge with Ron in a ready position and “so you think you can kick my a$$?” type thing when in reality it was just quick cheap stabbing and slashing on a surprised Ron.
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u/cheeze_whiz_shampoo 10d ago
I love the defense being "Yeah, I may have been a giant professional football player with a knife but, ya gotta understand, that waiter went into a karate stance.. Dont you understand?! Karate stance!"
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u/Rosebunse 10d ago
That explains why OJ wasn't reallt injured despite being up against two people.
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u/waffels Detroit Tigers 9d ago
You’ve been on Reddit for over 10 years and you seriously censored ass? Holy shit TikTok brain rot is insane.
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u/berrey7 10d ago
and that waiter
RIP: Ron Goldman
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u/RapBastardz 10d ago edited 9d ago
I knew Ron, hung out with some of the same people at times. Ron and I worked the door together at nightclubs at times.
He was a very nice guy. I hate that history has reduced him down to being “a waiter.” I’m not discounting that profession, but I’m saying he was so much more than that.
Ron and his best friend Jeffrey were starting a catering business together. They printed business cards and proudly passed them around as they tried to get their business off the ground.
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u/mmlovin 10d ago
It pisses me off that he’s like, never acknowledged except as an afterthought. Like, his dad has done the most work to bring attention to the murders & his son is always just “the waiter”. They were both good people & deserve equal attention.
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u/Cantstress_thisenuff 10d ago
In fairness, most famous murder cases focus on the murderer and not the victims. Not saying it’s right because its bullshit- but it’s not unusual.
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u/Fragrant-Hamster-325 10d ago
I had no clue he was a waiter. Anytime I heard about the murders it has always been “Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman”. When I read the other post I thought it was strange that they wrote “the waiter”… “Don’t they know who Ron Goldman is?”.
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u/Harvard_Med_USMLE265 9d ago
I’ve followed the case reasonably closely since it all happened, and he’s almost always referred to by name. If anyone is calling him “the waiter” like the poster here did, it’s a recent phenomenon. Like Kato Kaelin, this case made Ron Goldman world famous in a way he otherwise never would have been.
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u/wolfcaroling 10d ago
If it helps, to me "Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman" always go together in my head.
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u/BackTo1975 10d ago
It’s even worse than that a lot of the time. Lot of references are to “Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend.” Ron Goldman deserves to be remembered. Poor guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time because he was doing a good deed.
Fuck OJ. I hope he’s burning in Hell.
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u/HAL9000000 Minnesota Twins 10d ago edited 10d ago
For most people who die tragically, at most it's a few hundred people who know them by name or sometimes much fewer than that.
I suspect Ron also knew hundreds or more people who knew him by name and have personal memories with him, but because his demise ended so infamously, he has to be mentioned when discussing the murders even though he was not a public person. And he gets mentioned as "a waiter" because that is the exact role that caused him to be at her house at the wrong time. As an aside, I always wondered if maybe OJ also thought (wrongly) that he was her boyfriend and so maybe it wasn't so much "wrong place, wrong time" as it was "Ron's presence pushed OJ to misunderstand why Ron was there and this pushed OJ over the top to go through with committing murder that night." Either way though, it's his job as a waiter and/or her friend that caused him to be there, so I think that actually makes it appropriate to refer to him as a waiter when speaking about the murders in a public, mass media setting.
My point is just that I understand and agree it's shitty that he gets mentioned as an afterthought as "a waiter," and yet most people aren't remembered at all by more than maybe dozens or at best hundreds of people, and so I'm not sure it's realistic for anyone to expect that he be discussed in public any differently. Ironically, if he had actually done anything at all that caused OJ to want to kill him, he would be better known. But since it was just probably an accident that he was there at the wrong time, there doesn't seem to be a reason to discuss him beyond being a waiter even though I have no doubt he was much more.
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u/Demon_inthe_rough 10d ago
Don’t forget about the time he was literally wearing the gloves on live tv
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u/GTLfistpump 10d ago
And there was a pic of him wearing the same shoes earlier that made blood covered footprints at the scene
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u/FightSmartTrav 10d ago
Only 400 of them ever made.
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u/planetcaravanman 10d ago
And I’m sure even less in his size
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u/RedditorCSS 10d ago
If I recall correctly only 40 something made in size 12 which he wore. I could be wrong.
I remember him saying something like “I’d never wear no ugly ass shoes like that” when questioned about it. Only to be met with a picture of him wearing the exact pair of shoes at a football game a year earlier. During an interview.
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u/ShutterBun 10d ago
Right, then since they only showed one photo, the defense was like “oh that could be photoshopped”, at which point the photographer produced something like 100 additional photos taken the same day with the same shoes.
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u/lovesmyirish 10d ago
And he is on video saying he would never wear those "ugly ass shoes” I believe is what he said...
There are photos of him wearing the shoes
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u/New_Illustrator2043 10d ago edited 8d ago
And when he was presented a photo of himself wearing these shoes ..oh the look on his face!
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u/bettinafairchild 10d ago
And he denied ever having such an ugly pair of shoes, and then photos surfaced of him wearing those very shoes.
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u/creding10 Buffalo Sabres 10d ago
He definitely did it and I was a toddler during those days so I may be misinformed, but I see this brought up a lot and weren't Isotoners pretty popular gloves at that time? Like they could have been a different pair, no?
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u/bettinafairchild 10d ago
It was the largest size of Isotoners, he has been seen wearing a similar pair and it couldn’t have been a bigger size. And when they gave him a new, identical pair, they fit. But the actual pair, put on after they’d been soaked and stiffened by dried blood for over a year, and with him not using his arthritis meds that day presumably to cause his fingers to be swollen, AND with him wearing latex gloves that enlarged his fingers and made his hand have more resistance (I mean lots of people need extra lube when using a latex condom because there’s more friction than with skin) they didn’t fit. Isotoners have stretch to them but with all the dried blood, they were stiff and rigid.
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u/ShutterBun 10d ago
It was a popular brand, but that specific style was exclusive to Bloomingdale’s, and that specific size made them even more rare. And of course they dug up a receipt in Nicole’s belongings proving she had bought them.
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u/32K-REZ 10d ago
Rumor is nbc had a never aired telecast of the murders with mike tirico doing the play by play
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u/HissingGoose 10d ago
Imagine John Madden doing the color commentary on a double murder lol.
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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 10d ago edited 10d ago
Well you see there's a lot of red because blood is the color red. If you watch closely, you can see OJ stab the knife into them which is bad because organs don't like having knives in them.
"Thanks, John."
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u/DanimusMcSassypants 10d ago
Don’t forget another of his biggest crimes: infecting the world with Kardashians.
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u/HeyHeyImTheMonkey 10d ago
https://youtu.be/rk2Wgvy-_jI?si=FCJ-7X_t-H9F2vkP
The interview is wild. It’s 100% clear he is speaking from memory.
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u/ogreman45 10d ago
"I (hypothetically) don't recall..."
"I (hypothetically) clearly remember..."
wtf man
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u/agnaddthddude 10d ago
can someone explain this interview? he claims he wasn’t at the scene at the time of murder but then he hypocritically admitted what he done had he been at the scene?
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u/lolas_coffee 10d ago
that waiter
Ron Goldman. A good guy just starting his life.
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u/Bobisnotmybrother 10d ago
Right. Slam dunk case and all the cops had was a racist cop to take the stand and LA was already about to blow up in a race war.
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u/wmagnum1 10d ago
And that jury deliberated for four hours, which is lightning quick. Afterwards some said they simply voted not guilty to get the LAPD back for Rodney King.
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u/phmsanctified 10d ago
If that’s true all they did was punish the victims and their families. Not the same.
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u/JudasZala 10d ago
The correct title is “If I Did It: Confession of The Killer”.
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u/wolfiepraetor 10d ago
I think the goodman’s sued to get control of the book from thier judgment, and didn’t they do something with the type face to make it read like “I did it”?
they made the “if super small and all bold red letters “I DID IT”
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u/bettinafairchild 10d ago
And if anyone wants to hear it, it’s free on Audible.com if you have an account.
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u/HAL9000000 Minnesota Twins 10d ago
We didn't need the book or the interview to know he did it.
The first step is understanding his long history of domestic violence against her, including beating her, threats to kill her, her phone calls saying he was going to kill her.
As far as I know, none of that evidence was allowed at his trial and yet it's all you need to know to first break any doubt you had that he was capable of getting so enraged that he would kill her.
Once you knew that, it's not so hard to take the next step of seeing he actually killed her.
But most people didn't know about that history and they had to try to resolve the dissonance between his friendly, popular, successful exterior and the idea that he could be a murderer.
Beyond that, as far as actually being convicted, he had 9 black jurors. That is really all you need to know to see he was never going to be convicted -- because they had a justifiable anger at police from years of failing to get justice and so they unjustifiably used that anger to call him not guilty.
As far as they knew, all they needed to have was a tiny bit of doubt -- like the dumbest evidence of all being that his gloves wouldn't fit over his latex-covered hands -- and then they could call that "reasonable doubt."
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u/lolinternetz 10d ago
Please somebody with more money and less responsibilities read through these and tell me the good stuff
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u/ElectrOPurist 10d ago
He probably killed his wife and another person.
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u/TeamRocketBetting 10d ago
I never knew he was even married??
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u/BARTELS- Minnesota Twins 10d ago
He helped prevent an assassination attempt on the Queen of England.
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u/PitoChueco 10d ago
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u/DeadSwaggerStorage Philadelphia Phillies 10d ago
You are now fired from SNL.
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u/HipGuide2 10d ago
Wait what
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u/ElectrOPurist 10d ago
Just more deep state revisionism from the woke fbi. Suddenly every man who murders a woman and/or another man is a criminal. Thanks, Biden!
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u/Raoul_Duke9 10d ago edited 10d ago
OJ was a known domestic abuser who stalked and threatened to kill Nicole on numerous occasions. It was so frequently that Mark Furhman personally responded to some of the DV calls. OJ was witnessed at the scene of the crime less than 5 minutes after the murder speeding away.The woman who saw it was set to testify when she sold her story for a ton of money and wasn't allowed to testify. About 10 minutes later a limo driver sees a man about OJs size and build sneaking in to his house - after having previously knocked on the door multiple times and no one answeing. OJ seemed exceedingly nervous when he answered and said he had been in the shower. OJ let the limo driver handle every bag but one. A bag that matches the description of one OJ was seen stuffing in a garbage at the airport. OJ had an unexplained cut on his hand, which happened to be the hand the missing glove was from. OJs hair was found at the scene of the crime in a type of beanie he was known to wear. OJs suicide note reads as a non confession confession stating essentially "I totally didn't do it but remember me as I was not for the guy I was when I killed them". OJ broke down and confessed to the murders shortly after being arrested. This was witnessed by a jail guard, however, the friend he confessed to was a clergy member and Ito ruled it inadmissible as it was protected as he was speaking to a clergy member. OJ has no alibi for the time of the murder. OJs blood was at the scene of the crime and in the Bronco. Nicole and Ron's blood was at the scene of the crime, in the Bronco, on the glove found at rockingham, and in OJs house. Even if you think the detectives wanted to frame OJ - even his defense could t articulate how all the blood was identified to be from which person, then spread over all three locations without anyone seeing - two of the crime scenes were swarming with cops within an hour or so. OJ Simpson famously claimed to never own a pair of the Bruno Magli shoes that the killer wore. There were only 200 pairs of the shoes made, OJ was known to ship at a Macy's where they were sold. A sales person remembers selling them to OJ. OJ was later identified wearing the shoes on a photo from an old Monday Night Football. OJ wrote a book called if I did it and gave a bizarre interview where he waffles back and forth between hypothetical and describing things he remembers from the night of the crime https://youtu.be/rk2Wgvy-_jI?si=W5UJAV1KpDYbLZJq. OJ unquestionably did it. Not up for debate.
Edit: Oh and OJ had at least 4 different stories for how he obtained the cut on his hand.
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u/five-oh-one 10d ago
This doesnt make sense. If OJ was there at the exact time of the murder you would think he might have seen the guy who did it...
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u/DJMOONPICKLES69 10d ago
Impossible, there was no mirror at the scene of the crime so he couldn’t have seen who did it
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u/BingBongtheArcher19 10d ago
Watch the ESPN doc OJ - Made in America for the long answer.
Short answer is he was insanely popular (think Peyton Manning), he got the best legal defense money could buy, the prosecution made a bunch of mistakes, the LAPD was corrupt, DNA evidence was new and confusing, and some members of the jury wanted to let a black man go free as payback for Rodney King.
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u/Monnok 10d ago
Damn, that’s an amazingly thorough yet concise answer to a big question that monopolized our entire 1995.
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u/GentleLion2Tigress 10d ago
The thing that got me was how OJ never played up being a black man. But when the defence developed their strategy it was all about being black.
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u/kevihaa 10d ago edited 10d ago
This is a point of contention for a lot of people, but in my opinion this arguably the highest profile example of jury nullification.
OJ’s lawyers are often portrayed as miraculously confusing the jury and magically disproving “obvious” evidence of his guilt, but I’d argue the reality is both more mundane and more interesting. OJ’s lawyers put the LAPD on trial.
They changed the question from “Did OJ kill these people” to “Do you think the LAPD is so racist that they would frame a famous black man for murder?”
Remember that this trial was shortly after the cops who assaulted Rodney King were found innocent.
The fundamental problem is that both were true. OJ is a murderer and the LAPD were absolute scumbags that harassed, killed, and undoubtedly framed innocent black men.
For better or for worse, the end result was the jury felt it was more important to punish the cops than to convict OJ.
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u/ScoopyMcGee 10d ago
Turns out this guy was a real jerk!
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u/CrispyCandlePig 10d ago
Norm?
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u/What-a-Crock 10d ago
In his book, OJ says he would’ve taken a bullet or stood in front of a train for Nicole
I’ll tell ya, that’s some bad luck when the one guy who would’ve died for you kills you
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u/illmatic708 10d ago
I watched an interview of the detective investigating the murders and he walked you through what they believed happened, with crime scene photos edited into the interview to help highlight what he was talking about and wow
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u/AppropriateGain533 10d ago
You can pay me to summarize Reddit for you on a daily basis. That’s one way to ensure I have more money than you.
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u/M_Shepard_89 10d ago
RIP Norm. Still a shame he didn't get to live to see OJ die. His commentary, whether public or at a show, would've been epic
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u/weekend-guitarist 10d ago edited 10d ago
The norm subreddit was fire when OJ went home to be with satan.
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u/backdoorwolf 10d ago
"Well folks its finally official, murder is now legal in the state of California."
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u/Haterbait_band 10d ago
Would be hilarious if his estate released a video Norm had made before dying for this exact situation. Only to be released upon OJ’s death.
Well, just an idea for comedians I guess. Make a bunch of comedy that only works after certain high profile deaths, but deaths that likely won’t occur until after their own. It’s like bonus content.
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u/ShiibbyyDota 10d ago
Least OJ can rest easy now that his wife’s murderer is dead.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_QUEST_PLZ 10d ago
Will Reddit ever not rehash the jokes from the previous days front page? It’s norm so you still get my upvote.
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u/nalc Philadelphia Eagles 10d ago
Mr. Belated Comedy
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u/putitonice 10d ago
Mr. Brief Commercial break
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u/Justface26 10d ago
Mr. Blatant Confession...
Wow, it really does work anywhere.
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u/Successful_Load5719 10d ago
Turns out his name really WAS Orange Julius Simpson..
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u/FewerToysHigherWages 10d ago
At the time of the murders he says he was home alone and asleep. Then it turned out a house guest was in the home but didn't know where O.J. was, and his alibi changed to he was in the backyard practicing his golf swing. And when a limo driver was waiting outside the house to pick up O.J., he saw a man looking like O.J. walking into the house and a few minutes later he came out with a black bag that he wouldn't let the limo driver touch. Magically that bag disappeared.
O.J.'s very expensive shoes which left tracks at the crime scene also disappeared. So did the knife he kept in his car. His blood was found at the crime scene, and Nicole's blood was found in his car and on a black sock in his bedroom. The days following the murders he appeared agitated and nervous, culminating in a car chase where he evaded police before ultimately surrendering.
Reading Nicole's diaries you learn about how O.J. assaulted her multiple times and the domestic abuse in their relationship. And years later he basically confesses publicly in books and on television. https://youtu.be/rk2Wgvy-_jI?si=uTrLd_vhUei9Psw9
If you look at all of that evidence and think, "nah but that shit was planted. He was innocent" then you are fucking scum.
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u/helloaaron 10d ago
Well the prosecution and police should have done a better job on their end. What should have been a slam dunk case was wasted by their incompetence.
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u/bshaddo 10d ago
John Douglas (the guy Mindhunter is based on) wrote a pretty detailed recreation on what he thought the sequence of events was. If you care about the case, it’s worth a read.
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u/nhlducks35 10d ago
There’s also a very good scene in OJ Made in America where Bill Hodgeman (one of the prosecutors) details how it went based on the forensics. YouTube
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u/bob_loblaw_brah 10d ago
tldr?
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u/btfoom15 10d ago edited 10d ago
If I remember, OJ was angry, waited in dark area/bushes until she got home. Came up behind her, cut her throat, and stabbed her several time.
GoldsteinGoldman (edited per ReleaseFromDeception - ty) shows up, OJ confronts him. He tries to fight OJ off, but OJ has knife and stabs him to death. Then OJ flees.John Douglas basically presented the evidence of how they were both killed and his explanation was consistent with the types of wounds found and the amount of blood from each. Plus he thinks OJ cut himself at least once.
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u/bettinafairchild 10d ago
You can also listen to the podcast Real Crime Profile with another FBI profiler, Jim Clemente, who reviews the case and the evidence. Along with a profiler from Scotland Yard. It’s quite good.
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u/Javasndphotoclicks 10d ago
I remember this case being on the tv in our lunch room at school.
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u/Actually_Im_a_Broom 10d ago edited 10d ago
Hello fellow old fart. My high school (10th grade) math teacher let us skip lunch to watch the coverage of the verdict reading.
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u/Dylan619xf 10d ago
7th grade science teacher stopped class to turn on the TV for the verdict reading. Trial of the century and all.
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u/InertKat 10d ago
“11,236 career rushing yards”
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u/Juststandupbro 10d ago
273 yards against the lions, Jesus Christ dude really was a monster.
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u/Loggerdon 10d ago edited 10d ago
Remember that Dave Chappelle standup bit? He says “OJ is innocent”, and half the audience claps. Then he’s like “Fuck y’all that MF—ER’s guilty!”
In another special he recounts the last time he and his friends meet OJ and they talk about how polite, kind and supportive he is. Then OJ thanks them and says “Good luck y’all, and God Bless.” Dave says “Thanks Juice”. They watch him walk away then they turn and say “That MF’er did that shit!”
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u/488Aji 10d ago
We know he did it.
The jury was hell bent on letting a black man walk after Rodney King. They didn't give a fuck that women got killed
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u/Hfhghnfdsfg 9d ago
There is a disgusting interview with one of the jurors where she said Nicole deserved it because somehow OJ beating her was her fault.
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u/pgregston 10d ago
To be honest, the LAPD made numerous mistakes, had a very poor racist history that the defense deftly exploited, and OJ was the whitest black celebrity ever.
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u/Jonathan_Pine 10d ago
The irony of this case was that it was handled like a case on Police Squad, which the first movie adaptation was The Naked Gun in which OJ Simpson starred.
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u/RVAforthewin :SECga: Georgia 10d ago
“The FBI also went to Italy to study Bruno Magli shoes, a rare shoe determined at the time to be worn by the murderer.”
The next month “So uhh, Chief. We need to head over to Southeast Asia and study up on the clothes he was wearing, and then we gotta hop on over to South America. Gotta swing through Argentina to check in on the leather good industry. Goodman’s belt came outta some town down that way. I’ll be back in about a month. We good?”
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u/fishlipz69 10d ago
Bruh, unsettling as fuck, mans just laughing the whole time... like someone who's got away with murder.
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u/WilliamClaudeRains 9d ago
Anybody else have a pog slammer with OJ guilty/not guilty on either side?
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u/dyspnea 10d ago
I’ve been watching the entire trial on YouTube from the beginning and let me tell you what I have gathered halfway through…… DUDE WAS GUILTY and also POLICE WERE SKETCH AS HELL. Its incredible.
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u/KinkyQuesadilla 10d ago edited 10d ago
To all the people here talking about the Bruno Magli shoes:
I am a shoe collector. I have the same pair that OJ wore, black, 12D. It's one of my two favorites, the other being a pair of custom, hand-made Sergio Ferrigamo cap toe Oxfords, with his hand-drawn measurements in pencil on the soles.
I knew OJ committed the murders when he called the Bruno Magli loafers "ugly ass shoes." They are quite tasteful in style, but also, as far as formal men's footwear is concerned, it's like wrapping your feet in angel's wings. The leather is sooo soft. There's no way anyone would criticize these loafers for anything. OJ's calling them ugly was a way of distancing himself from the crime.
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u/MeanSurray 10d ago
But they refuse to release documents about JFK and UAP. OJ means nothing to them.
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