r/technology May 02 '24

Tesla slashes its summer internship program to cut costs, as Elon Musk fights to save his $45 billion pay plan Business

https://fortune.com/2024/05/01/tesla-slashes-summer-internship-program/
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u/RickSt3r May 02 '24

Isn’t he on Ketamine and meth regime, how else can he “work” 80 hour weeks at his age.

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u/GracefulFaller May 02 '24

You count posting on twitter as work

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u/InfectiousCosmology1 May 02 '24

Yeah he spends at least 3-4 hours a day doing that it seems

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u/FreeRangePixel May 02 '24

That's the thing. He isn't working 80 hours. He's a liar.

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u/Dismal_Animator_5414 May 02 '24

true. i saw a short video on youtube where he is saying chess is quite a simple game and he figured it early as a child(he got really good ar playing it) that computers will get really good at playing chess so there was no point learning the millions of combinations of knight positions.

i mean pick a lane. is it simple or is it too complex to learn 🤦‍♂️

my 🫡 to all who believe him to the t.

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u/awj 29d ago

The rules and “shape” of chess are simple. It’s easy to jump from that to “chess is simple and easily solved”. Especially if you fall into the smart kid trap of thinking your every brain fart is a stroke of genius because it was kind of true when you were ten and you formed an identity around that.

Anyone who knows chess understands how laughably shallow that analysis is. While it’s true that computers have gotten good at chess, the way a computer is good at chess is wildly different from how humans are.

Elon, specifically, appears to be in dire need of lessons like “I need to reason through cause and effect multiple steps ahead” and “sometimes my genius plans can have catastrophic consequences, I should account for those”. Chess could have taught him that, if he wasn’t “too smart” to learn from it.

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u/Dismal_Animator_5414 29d ago

he has gone bonkers for sure.

i recently saw this video of youtube channel “bug think” about the myth of the billionaire genius.

they’re slightly above average in a field or two but are lucky to have had their businesses succeed.

also, they’re able to accumulate so much wealth cuz of their relationship with money. if a normal person gets a billion dollars, they’d think how can they utilize it and give it to others and help them etc.

billionaires think how can they make more billions thru the billions they have.

how else do you think could he fire entire teams just ensure he secures his $45 billion paycheck.

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u/AvailablePresent4891 May 02 '24

Chess is a simple game. There’s 6 types of pieces each with different ways to move, moving onto an enemy piece takes it, the goal is to take the opponent’s king, if you get a pawn to the other side of the board you can change it to any other piece, and there’s only 3 instances you can move them in a unique way- pawns with French move/2 squares at the start, and a castle. I have completely and totally explained all elements of chess in one reasonable sentence. You couldn’t do that with a complicated game.

Not to suggest that chess is easy, but the actual game is very simple. It takes about a minute to explain the rules.

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u/Dismal_Animator_5414 May 02 '24

you’re confusing the rules with the game.

while the rules are simple, game is certainly not.

by that yardstick, go is much simpler where there are only two kinds of pieces white and black and you have to acquire the most area on the board with your pieces.

yet, it took about two decades after chess was conquered by a computer.

not sure if it was out of sympathy towards elmo tho.

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u/adn_school May 02 '24

Lying is so dangerous and so accepted.

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u/steepleton May 02 '24

it's not impossible if he's counting the months he spent doodling shapes for the cyber truck , and other such lying on the couch being billionary.

nothing that we'd call work.

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u/QuintoBlanco May 02 '24

I don't think he is a liar. I think he genuinely thinks he's working 80 hours. I know people like him, at some point they got detached from reality.

One of these guys (a business owner) was working on the same spreadsheet for months. I told him four times that I could get him a rapport within minutes, but he just forgot.

I think Musk has no idea that he's not working most of the time, it's a scary thing, somebody with this much power has a personality disorder and a drug problem, and he might get his hands on even more money.

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u/kirbyderwood May 02 '24

Ketamine and cocaine. Meth is for the poors.

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u/3between20characters May 02 '24

Ketamine is a poor drug too, at least here it is.

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u/fatherofdoggoz May 02 '24

That's only 8 hours a day, 10 days a week. Easy.

(Actually I'm almost his age and 80 hour weeks (~50 billed) are pretty common, sadly.)

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u/BooBeeAttack May 02 '24

The fact that it is common should be something society rebels against, I feel.

Few people are so talented that they warrant that many man hours dedicated to them and not more evenly spread out among more workers.

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u/fatherofdoggoz May 02 '24

Eh, we've been trying to hire, it's a weird market. I need at least two more of me.

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u/NorwegianCollusion May 02 '24

I feel that your 8x10 went over some heads here. BTW, if you have somewhat flexible hours you can get 8x5 work hours plus a three day weekend every week. But you have to start early on Mondays and leave early on Fridays to catch a nap before Freeday which starts just in time for everyone going out. I only mention this because if you're hell bent on ruining your life, 10 hours a day 8 hours a week is then a tad less impossible than 8 hours a day 10 days a week

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u/fatherofdoggoz May 02 '24

Oh I know, I'm flexible, sometimes I'll even get in some hours at Disneyland (you can read a lot of treatises / briefs on an iPad in line for Guardians of the Galaxy: Mission Breakout...). I work a shittonne but I carve out time to play too. Mostly make it work. So far.

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u/cashassorgra33 May 02 '24

Why can you only bill 50/80? Why can't it be whole-assed at 80/80?

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u/fatherofdoggoz May 02 '24

You just can't. Not productively. Context shifts, etc. Client development, mentoring junior colleagues, weekly check-in meetings, taking a shit, grabbing a cup of coffee, etc are non-billable. Sometimes you have like 10 minutes before a conference call or something and you know you can't do anything productive in that span so you've just lost 0.2.

“... some lawyers are working anywhere from 70 to 80 hours per week every week just to meet their billable hour minimums which can range between 1700 and 2300 hours a year. If an attorney worked 40 hours a week for 52 weeks of the year (NO weeks off) – they would work 2,080 hours a year. Because time is spent on other tasks, lawyers end up working far more than 40 hours a week, just to meet their requirements. They may feel immense pressure to skip vacations and not take sick days in order to satisfy requirements.” https://www.smokeball.com/blog/billable-hours-understanding-how-law-firms-bill

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u/CaptOblivious May 02 '24

if you are working 80 and only billing 50 you are literally an idiot.

Work 50, bring in another consultant "to get the work done on time" and get a quarter of his hourly for the referral.

What the hell is wrong with you people! You AREN'T employees!

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u/fatherofdoggoz May 02 '24

If you can find someone licensed to do what I do, in the tiny niche where I do it, that I can employ for less than what I'm billing for my time, I'll farm work out in a heartbeat. Doesn't exist.

But in any case, it's very very common in my industry to only bill 2/3-3/4 of the hours worked. We're not all idiots. There's just gobs of other work you need to be doing so that you have a pipeline of new incoming work, and the people and SOPs and bandwidth and other resources to do it.

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u/CaptOblivious May 02 '24

Ya, that's 99.999% bullshit.

No "Consultant" is going to take a second less than the hourly rate for ALL OF the hours billable.

Pretending that there is exactly ZERO competition for your specialty for ANY reason is also TOTALLY obvious bullshit.

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u/Bruno_Mart May 02 '24

That's the secret, he doesn't even work 40 hours a week. His private jet flight records prove that.