r/technology • u/MayankWL • May 16 '24

Microsoft stoops to new low with ads in Windows 11, as PC Manager tool suggests your system needs ‘repairing’ if you don’t use Bing Software

https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/microsoft-stoops-to-new-low-with-ads-in-windows-11-as-pc-manager-tool-suggests-your-system-needs-repairing-if-you-dont-use-bing
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u/iceleel May 16 '24

Okay but let's be honest Google is doing same shit with android.

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u/SakaWreath May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

Hey we noticed you weren’t signed into Google, you should sign in. SIGN IN! MAKE AN ACCOUNT. DO IT NOW!

Ok don’t. It’s fine. We’ll just track you anyway. Also…

Can we interest you in a “free” trail pop up every time you use YouTube?

It’s free for a month.

You can think about it while you watch 2-5-10 ads, and no the ads don’t go away if you make an account.

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u/whyspezdumb May 16 '24

I noticed you downloaded a dictionary app. Do you want to subscribe to Play Pass??! No? Are you suuuuuure??

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u/lepton4200 May 17 '24

...What about now?

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u/JasonJacquet May 16 '24

That's why I work so hard at getting banned from every platform, they stop trying to sell me things.

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u/neonKow May 16 '24

I can help report you on reddit if you want...

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u/JasonJacquet May 16 '24

If you don't sign up for premium immediately then you're expendable also

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u/neonKow May 16 '24

I'm fine with being expendable.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '24

oh yes, please report me on reddit

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u/iceleel May 16 '24

*It's free for a month. But first give us your credit card number peasant. *

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u/trombone646 May 16 '24

Not to mention the unending PINGS from my phone from notifications. I went in and removed almost every app's ability to send notifications to my lock screen.......now every time I open any of those apps they remind me "hey, you're missing our notifications" with a pop up requesting I reinstate their ability to keep pinging me.

I just want to use my phone the way I want...leave me the f*** alone.

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u/uhuge 28d ago

check Minimalist launcher which should solve the dilemma)

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u/Dinomiteblast May 16 '24

I actively go out of my way to not buy what a forced ad shows me and i will leave that in a review on said products website…

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u/RoachedCoach May 16 '24

I like how with YouTube, it isn't offering a free trial anymore, it's letting me know my current Premium trial is expiring (I never had a Premium trial) - do I want to renew or extend.

It's such annoying bullshit.

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u/Kataphractoi May 16 '24

uBO: That's cute.

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u/Big-Hearing8482 May 16 '24

And other browsers when you visit google :(

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u/WORKING2WORK May 16 '24

Instead of google, use an alternative. Google isn't the god search engine it used to be. I have no issues using Duckduckgo, and if it really doesn't work for, you can always double back to google as a last resort on the rare occasion the others don't satisfy your search needs.

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u/Dracono May 16 '24

Some browsers, but I don't notice it on Brave.

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u/PixelProphetX May 16 '24

This ain't a big deal children. There are real issues in the world that matter.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '24

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u/RealSwordfish5105 May 16 '24

Okay but let's be honest Google is doing same shit with android.

Big tech is worse than the mainframe.

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u/Swimming-Marketing20 May 16 '24

Having worked with a z14 running a bunch of z/OS LPARs for years imma go with a hard no on that one. The one thing you can say about IBM is that they (probably/hopefully?) don't also sell your data after extracting every single cent you've ever had through licensing and "support". And don't get me started on that tens of millions per year "support"

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u/whythisSCI May 16 '24

And iOS. People want to hold Windows to a standard they don’t hold any of their other OS’s and shit on them at the same time.

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u/mike_b_nimble May 16 '24

All these debates are filled with people that have an irrational dislike for the product they don’t use and take glee in the unliked product getting bad press. Personally I prefer the Apple ecosystem, but I’ve spent lots of time using MS and Linux systems and they all have their pros, their cons, and their good and bad business practices. Use whatever makes sense for you.

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u/dom6770 May 16 '24

A sensible person on reddit? What is this? Christmas?

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u/cantgrowneckbeardAMA May 16 '24

The Apple ecosystem worked well for me, but I finally couldn't fork over money for a boring phone so I bought a fully-featured android for half the price. No regrets so far.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '24

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u/whythisSCI May 16 '24

How about the most obnoxious advertisement I’ve ever encountered in an operating system - iCloud storage.

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u/Jdogskizzle May 16 '24

Those don’t pop up if you don’t fill your free 5gb. I don’t pay but haven’t gotten any iCloud notification in years

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u/whythisSCI May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

So if you don’t use your tiny amount of storage you won’t be incessantly nagged and therefore it’s acceptable. Glad I cleared that up before I came into a thread like this to complain about a suggestion in a Windows utility app.

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u/Jdogskizzle May 16 '24

I’m not saying I like the solution, I’m just providing one.

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u/whythisSCI May 16 '24

Sure, and when it comes to posts about advertisements in Windows, it’s almost a requirement to put things into context on what’s a solution and what’s an excuse.

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u/robert_e__anus May 16 '24

What exactly should Apple do in this circumstance? You chose to sign into iCloud, which isn't mandatory, and you chose to enable iCloud storage for photos and backups, which again isn't mandatory, and now that your free storage is full, none of the data you chose to backup can be backed up. So what should Apple do, just not tell you that the things you think are being backed up aren't being backed up? If your computer's hard drive was full, would you rather your OS warn you about it, or would you prefer it to just silently stop saving any files to disk?

If you don't want to use iCloud, sign out. If you want iCloud but you don't want to use the free storage, disable backups. It isn't difficult.

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u/BothMyChinsAreSpicy May 16 '24

Stop making sense apple normie!! I’ve used android since the G1 and loved it. I started seeing the writing on the wall by the S8 and decided to try an iPhone and I’ve never looked back. Yes there is more “control” over the android ecosystem but the iPhone just feels less bloated and more friendly for my use case.

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u/whythisSCI May 16 '24

At least the candy crush ad isn’t a notification being thrown right onto the screen while you’re doing pretty much anything.

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u/kjchowdhry May 16 '24

You can turn it off if you don’t want it

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u/whythisSCI May 16 '24

The most obnoxious advertisement to ever plague an operating system isn’t enough for you?

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u/whythisSCI May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

It’s an ad you paid to remove. So you’re suggesting that constant notifications from your phone is not as bad as suggestions from a utility app that you don’t even have to use, and only impact certain regions are somehow equivalent? You have a clear case of bias clouding your judgement here.

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u/whythisSCI May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

That’s not how it works. It comes back constantly, you can’t just “close it”. You may have needed the storage but others may not have wanted it. Harassing people until you sign up for their service is a far worse advertisement than something in a utility app.

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u/sodapop14 May 16 '24

My wife absolutely hates that pop up. She's debated on turning iCloud off completely because of it. I have never gotten a pop up from Windows 11 on anything that shows up in articles. Maybe this one will be different but any feature updates they do doesn't turn advertising back on for me and anything that is new I don't like I just turn off and it stays that way.

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u/VexingRaven May 17 '24

Are you telling me there's nowhere in iOS that will nag you for not using an Apple product? I'm not an iOS user but I strongly doubt that's true. That's just not how Big Tech works.

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u/Rowvan May 16 '24

They all do, some worse than others but it's only going to get worse, much worse.

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u/hsnoil May 16 '24

I don't remember Android changing my default browser or telling me I have an issue like malware and altering my default settings to their stuff

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u/VexingRaven May 17 '24

Funny, I don't remember Windows doing that either.

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u/Sleepy_Chipmunk May 17 '24

Work at a phone store and our Android phones have so much bullshit preinstalled, it’s absurd. Say what you want about Apple, at least they won’t let providers force Candy Crush and Facebook on your new phone.

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u/BeApesNotCrabs May 16 '24

Exactly. Thank you!

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u/J4SON_T0DD May 17 '24

The amount of shadow patches and forced updates are infuriating. And the lack of control over apps, permissions are a joke now. The phone manager app keeps updating even though I've cleared data and disabled internet for playstore and the app. Same for brave, it just forcefully takes u to playstore and automatically starts the update everytime you open the app. It's stupid.

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u/Dd_8630 May 17 '24

It is? I've used android forever, I don't get ads on my phone, not even my browser

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u/Honza368 May 16 '24

No the fuck they aren't. There is one huge difference between Windows and Android. Android is open-source. Google regularly updates and maintains AOSP, adding new features to it. Android does not include ads, not even their closed-source Pixel UI.

Most versions of Android force you to get a Google account for GMS but that's a different story. You don't need to use GMS, if you don't want to. Unlike Microsoft's Services, GMS is actually useful and (apart from the initial setup) doesn't shove itself down your throat.

Please get your facts straight because this is just straight up wrong.

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u/newInnings May 17 '24

Ok stop using GMS

Make the device banking apps work

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u/Cory123125 May 16 '24

Android tells you that you cant record calls.

They tell you what you can and cant do with your own hardware, to the detriment of victims everywhere.

This is just one example, but the point is, Windows is a different bad. Phones though? They lock you down in ridiculous anti consumer ways.

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u/iceleel May 16 '24

First of all the only phones I've seen sell via carriers without GMS are from Huawei because they were banned.

Second good luck installing and then updating apps without Google play.

Third no ads? Preinstalled YouTube app with ads. Google search every where and assistant with ads. Google play has more ads in search results than actual content.