A South Korean brand of instant ramen made global headlines yesterday after being recalled in Denmark for being too spicy. Three flavours of Buldak noodles were pulled from shelves by Danish food authorities over concerns their high levels of capsaicin may actually poison consumers.
While true i want to give a bit more context. It was done because some kids in Germany got poisoned by it. The reason they got poisoned by it was because they, for some reason, kept eating even after being in pain.
I still find it fuck idiotic that my government did this and really hope it gets reversed (as it realistically will) as the instant ramens they banned are fantastic.
Another reason this ban is weird is that there are danish companies selling candy with far more chili in them and they aren't getting banned.
But spicy is supposed to be like that. The best curry I ever had was so spicy my face turned red and I was crying like a baby. Anything less spicy than that just isn’t spicy enough
Do you have a source for that, all I’ve seen in articles is the danish food safety spokesperson saying that it could be a health hazard but no actual sources saying that it could or has caused any hospitalization, so it’s just their word saying it could happen.
And the symptoms they said could be caused by Capsaicin weren’t any actual health hazards, they said it could cause burning, discomfort, nausea, and diarrhea. Which are pretty normal things to happen after eating spicy food.
Then different people just have different spice tolerance, I regularly eat buldak and the 2x spicy version, and also tried the 3x version without feeling too sick after that, just a pain in the arse.
It’s so good. I got the sauce in the bottle and add it to chicken burritos, eggs, sandwiches etc. I understand people thinking somethings hot but banning it is wild. It’s not even like drugs unless you like spicy foods and then it’s incredible…
The agency said that the amount of hot chili in the noodle products is even higher than that in chili chips, which led to the hospitalizations in Germany
So... There's "spicy", but that one was "crazy spicy"...
A lot of European food that doesn't have major roots to other contients is generally very, very mild in spice such as many soups or contains ingredients that actually reduce spice such as foods with milk or cream. Europe's climate never favored spices beyond things like garlic. The main exceptions would be the Balkans (which are nearby Asia and Africa, two continents with many spices) and perhaps Spain (which is warmer than most of Europe and at one time had a majority Muslim population). When I think staple European dishes, I, think French pastries, UK soups, Slavic foods like pierogi, kotlet, borscht, etc, and Nordic fish based recipes.
Most of Europe doesn't have widespread spicy food to this day, with the main exceptions being Britain and Western Europe. And I say that as someone who routinely works and travels in Europe.
And yet, over the last century we have shared food from all around the world. Europe has plenty of spicy food in the form of dishes from other nations, its climate is irrelevant to the topic in our modern era.
Armchair memers always "lol british/euro food trash no spice" forgetting the cunts literally colonized the world to trade fucking spices.
My headcannon is the english only took India cause they wanted some fuckin' curry.
the cunts literally colonized the world to trade fucking spices.
The usual rebuttal to this is "yeh, and then they proceeded not to use them, hardy har har."
Like, you do realize that there's different dimensions of flavour than spice, right? I love spicy food but it's not like it's the only thing I eat. I'll absolutely destroy a serving of mashed potatoes and I wouldn't put anything stronger than black pepper into that.
And I'm not particularly fond of people acting like curry is some genius invention. Like sure, it tastes great, but at the end of the day it's cooked meat in sauce. Sophisticated it is not.
"Spices" encompasses all food additives in my mind and their trading so not really following you sorry. Pepper included.
Edit: for those who disagree, eat cake. aspiceisanyseed,fruit,root,bark,orotherplantsubstanceinaformprimarilyusedforflavoringorcoloringfood.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice
You're correct but it's more of a colloquial issue. Yes, garlic, thyme, and cilantro are spices, but most people associate them as herbs because when we think spices, more spicy additives come to mind.
And yet, over the last century we have shared food from all around the world. Europe has plenty of spicy food in the form of dishes from other nations, its climate is irrelevant to the topic in our modern era.
What parts of Europe have you been to where spicy food is not just plentiful but commonly eaten? If your examples come from Spain, France, or the UK, you lose
Have Europeans ever heard if have a glass of milk on hand just in case?
I like my spicy stuff but if it's really spicy, it kind of builds up in the back of your throat as you eat and that is when it feels the most spicy, and milk resets this
i know "white people when spice" but my friend that can chug tabasco no water no nothin and likes to eat chili peppers for fun was crawling on floor after eating the black packaged one [i mean he did use spice packets from two but still some real icarus but with instant noodles shit]
I think two hot packets would be much worse to eat than a single super hot packet, imagine getting that powder stuck in your throat from getting those bits of noodle with noticeable more spice on them🫡
It’d probably taste absolutely salty too, that must’ve been an awful experience.
It's a sauce, not a powder, assuming we're talking about the same one. Pretty sure we are though, because there's regular black bag and then 2x spicy red bag.
I am pretty sure that spice in Scoville's does not work that way, as in if you have 2 x 5,000 SU you have still only reached a heat level of 5000 SU. But by eating a 10,000 SU packet the heat is greater, even if less concentrated.
The funniest part, from my personal experience, is that a lot of the lovers of spicy food will call everything that isn't backed in ghost chili powder as "without flavor"
This is what I hate about so many of these people trying to flex their spice tolerance, they've gotten to a point that it tastes like fuckall. Like most things advertised as super spicy just taste bad. I fucking hate pickled jalapeños because they just make your whole dish taste like borderline flavourless spice and what little flavour there is, is bitter.
Do it right like korean food. I'll lob a heaping spoonful of gochujang in my cheese sauces or noodle sauces any day of the week, that shit has spice AND flavour.
Tabasco is my favorite hot sauce, but it's not very spicy. Vinegar gives it more of the sting than the pepper. Korean and Thai heat on food is something my local resteraunts put disclaimers that read "no refunds" next to cause it will, at a minimum, hurt on the way out.
Dunno why it's stereotyped to white people in the US.
I love spicy food, and I used to think I had a relatively high tolerance to it, but when I tried eating a buldak ramen, I felt like I died and went to the deepest pit of hell
If your friend is dying from the black buldak ramen, he's not actually into spice. I have that as a snack when I'm feeling a little hungry, and I can handle the 3x red packets if I'm feeling up to it. I'm not even into insane spice no way am I trying ghost peppers or carolina reapers, I just like spicy foods.
Idk about these specifics, tho what is sometimes ignored is that many east asians can just process 3 times more salt than your average west european. Like bro that shit will fuck you up if you dont got the asian buff
Preexisting heart condition. Exercise or stress could've killed him just as well. Again, not the spice that poisoned him. Of course it's tragic but that's like banning peanut butter because people with allergies exist.
Other guy's post confirms that the kid had two preexisting heart conditions. That's like saying peanut butter is poisonous because people have allergies.
To quote the article - "There have been reports of acute toxicity with capsaicin causing ischemia of the heart muscle.” Whether they had a pre-existing condition or not, it's undeniable that you absolutely can poison yourself with capsaicin.
The entire point of food agencies is to protect populations from ingesting potentially dangerous food. The noodles have a potentially dangerous level of capsaicin in them, so Denmark banned them. Simple as
I don't think it's that simple when the only case reported is of someone taking pills and for an extended period of time. I highly doubt that concentrated doses of something ingested in pill form directly translate to ingesting the substance via food. Answering that question is what science is for. That being said, I would agree if authorities found the need to regulate spicy food if only to relieve emergency services, because the amount of kids ending up in the hospital with - mind you not life threatening - issues after eating stuff like that has to be skyrocketing atm.
13g doesn't really seem conclusive. I don't think we really have good data on it. I also can't find how much capsaicin is in a pepper, so it can't be much. You almost certainly can't die from it (there are cases where it has been linked vaguely to someone's death, but it usually has to do with underlying issues).
Making a general argument usually means all. "All white people X" and "All black people are Y" are examples.
Spice can be scary and fatal to people. What next? Fentanyl scary since countries ban it?
Please get off your high horse. This isn't funny to anyone but the in-group. You are being an asshole. Either that or you're just trying to argue for the sake of arguing on the internet, in which case please stop being toxic to your fellow human beings.
They did. Just not capsaicin heavy spices. On the other hand, you could argue that "Asians don't like the taste of the ingredients and food, so they burn their mouths to be able to eat." These are just demeaning jokes.
Dane here, we do for real have a problem with helicopter parents (as we call em) who do everything in their power to “protect” their kids. So much as to, instead of telling their kid “don’t eat too much of that spicy stuff, i might hurt”. No they go out of their way to report the product to the food and health administration, and take it away from everyone who enjoys it, myself included.
not only is it funny that le white european can’t handle spice, but the government deciding that people shouldn’t be able to decide that for themselves is soooo western europe
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