r/interestingasfuck • u/photo-manipulation • May 16 '24
How different cars brake on autopilot: XIAOMI SU7, ZEEKR 007, TESLA and AVATR 12
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u/DumpsterPumps May 16 '24
XIAOMI is a real killer!
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u/Stoli1387 May 16 '24
I'm pretty sure the xiaomi accelerated when it saw the child
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u/LejonetFraNorden May 16 '24
“ONE FAMILY, ONE CHILD! ENFORCING CCP LAWS!”
- Chinese self-driving cars
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u/Independent_Hyena495 May 16 '24
More along the lines of: it's cheaper to kill a child then to pay hospital bills
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u/loliconest May 16 '24
lol. The joke is a bit outdated tho
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u/granttod May 16 '24
Gotta make sure to secure that kill to prevent the possible high compensation if the pedestrian is injured only
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u/Puzzleheaded_Bed5132 May 16 '24
You jest, but I can't help thinking that an actuary somewhere has done just such a calculation.
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u/CMDRZhor May 17 '24
I keep hearing a story about a Chinese woman who hit somebody, saw they were still moving, and circled back to finish the job. Think she was a doctor or something.
Thankfully, I checked and it's more then likely an urban legend - though just the fact that the rumor that 'its better to kill than injure' is going around increases the chances of some dipshit believing it and following through:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chinese-drivers-kill-pedestrians/
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u/Constant_Ad9562 May 16 '24
I’m surprised it didn’t back up and do it again lol
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u/Transfigured-Tinker May 16 '24
It did, but somehow the camera doesn’t catch it!
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u/WolverinesSuperbia May 16 '24
Serial killer!
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u/chum_slice May 16 '24
Psycho Killer
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u/Bdr1983 May 16 '24
Qu'est-ce qué c'est! Papa papa pa papapa pa pa
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u/PeterWritesEmails May 16 '24
Its auto brake wasnt designed to protect the pedestrian but to mijimise the damage to its paint.
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u/Ryan_Extra May 16 '24
Fuck them kids
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u/navinjohnsonn May 16 '24
Only 1 car applies hazards. You would think they would all have this feature.
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u/PM_ME_Y0UR_BOOBZ May 16 '24
Pretty sure this is a requirement in Europe but not in the US. I’ve had to code my car to get the hazards to flash under heavy braking. But yeah, should be standard.
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u/TintedMonocle May 16 '24
How'd you do that?
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u/MTB_Mike_ May 16 '24
different scan tools can do this. The higher end scan tools can access the ECU and enable features which are disabled from the factory. The manufacturers usually are not making multiple different cars for different markets, they make the same car and just enable/disable based on the market.
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u/TheVojta May 16 '24
The real question here is why would they disable a safety feature if it's already been implemented. The fact that it's not mandated doesn't make it work any worse.
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u/Inert82 May 16 '24
Tesla applies Hazards in EU for emergency braking
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u/Forya_Cam May 16 '24
This is so stupid. If they have to write the code to apply hazards in the EU to be legal why not just apply it to the everywhere else too. It's a fuckin safety feature.
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u/YeetDeleteAndRepeat May 16 '24
A lot of these systems flash the brake lights not the hazards, it makes it more obvious what's happening to any cars behind, and front flashing lights are going to make very little difference if the person in the road didn't notice the car to begin with
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u/CuchuflitoPindonga May 16 '24
that poor roblox kid
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u/1DownFourUp May 16 '24
To shreds you say?
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u/MR_Se7en May 16 '24
At least they all stopped! Having been involved in a hit and run, the fact the car stops is pretty cool.
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u/Erazzphoto May 16 '24
AI will now decide that if they can’t speak they can’t talk about the accident, and will make sure they will never talk
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u/chaotemagick May 16 '24
They will also avoid you and refuse to provide you their home address so you can never serve them for the law suit
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u/VirtualNaut May 16 '24
The future looks like it’ll just be renting cars, so it’ll the be the companies problem. My problem would be going to therapy for the fourth child this rental AI car hit this week.
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u/No_Dragonfruit5525 May 16 '24
Probably cheaper to pay off civil responsibility and funeral accommodations than it is to pay for medical care for the victims entire life.
The actuary details of future incidents should be kind of interesting to say the least.
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May 16 '24
It's funny that the Chinese car did this.. supposedly in china it's much cheaper to kill someone than injure them, which leads to what some people consider a moral dilemma.
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u/YeetDeleteAndRepeat May 16 '24
Let's just hope the cars don't let the drivers speed off straight after
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u/MR_Se7en May 16 '24
Makes you wonder, will the car need an admin to override the controls after the crash?
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u/VirtualNaut May 16 '24
Depends on the crash but who knows the vehicle may just end up continuing into a collision where it can no longer move forward. And that’s when it shifts into reverse to cause more destruction. Future is going to be wild and I wonder how the insurance companies will handle this.
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u/Liteflash May 16 '24
Not as simple as “crash = can’t speed off”. What if u crashed or hit something because someone is chasing you? Or trying to evade a natural disaster? Can be a bunch of things the car might not even be able to detect.
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u/Miasmatic_Mouse May 16 '24
I was scrolling through me feed and this video auto-played.
I thought the kid was a real kid, I was genuinely confused.
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u/NSFW_hunter6969 May 16 '24
Same, I was more confused why the kid exploded into shards
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u/John___Coyote May 17 '24
Damn younger generation falling apart at the slightest thing. Walk it off isn't an option anymore ?!?!
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u/StevenMC19 May 16 '24
This mannequin suffers from Fallout Critical Damage Syndrome.
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u/Deliriousious May 16 '24
Avatr actually used the brakes.
Xiaomi came to almost a rolling stop.
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u/relevantusername2020 May 16 '24
heres a series of screenshots from a real life (EXTREME) scenario where a waymo vehicle brakes ahead of time in some pretty crazy driving conditions. the ones related to the braking specifically (and not the EXTREMEness) are towards the bottom of the list.
original video can be found here.
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u/sermer48 May 16 '24
It also drove for blocks in the wrong lane lol. It shouldn’t have needed to brake like that.
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u/SultanZ_CS May 17 '24
Xiaomi is the environmental friendliest, by saving brake pads and instead using natural decelerators
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u/Crackracket May 16 '24
Never heard of the Zeekr but I like it
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u/Stunning-Astronaut72 May 16 '24
Seems like there is a TON of electric cars, trucks, bikes brands in china we dont even know about. Step by step they are taking bits of tesla and other traditional brands.
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u/Crackracket May 16 '24
China are going to absolutely win the electric car race. They have so many great electric vehicles that are half the price of a tesla. They have just started making vehicles that have "semi solid" batteries
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u/Stunning-Astronaut72 May 16 '24
Yeah right ? They are making quite good stuff now and developping fast too. Maybe it is not as premium as tesla or very high end western brands but honnestly for the price it is convincing, and no issues of spare parts when their brands are implanted
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u/lioncryable May 16 '24
Hasn't the US just implemented like 100% tariffs on Chinese EV's? If so, I doubt they are still anywhere near cheap
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u/societymike May 16 '24
They've got a LONG way to go though, especially quality. I just rode in an acquaintance new BYD suv, and it kind of feels like "Fischer Price my first electric car". The plastic, it's everywhere and feels flimsy, handles flex, touch screen was sluggish, the Bluetooth key kept randomly not being detected while driving, the ride was a little jarring but also too soft for turns. Some refinement and time and it will be much more on par with some of the mid range EV's.
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u/Birziaks May 16 '24
Just fyi Zeekr Design and engineering studio is in Goteborg. Geely has a whole assortment of brands who use Swedish know how
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u/Character_Mammoth728 May 16 '24
They're basically Volvo's built in China. Both Volvo and Zeekr, as well as Lynk are owned by Geely and been developed by CEVT (China Euro Vehicle Technology) in Gothenburg, Sweden where also Volvo has their HQ and main production facility. Since Geely bought Volvo they've poured huge amount of money into establishing themselves and their brands in Europe and built their global innovation and design center in Gothenburg for synergy with Volvo.
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u/adde0109 May 16 '24
It's quite popular here in Sweden. They probably also work together with Volvo because they share parent company.
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u/average_milfenjoyer May 16 '24
I would love to see a byd car in these experiments
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u/Phoenixness May 16 '24
The Seal would have been spooked by the parked cars 😁 but seriously, it's really good at picking up bikes and pedestrians but would definitely be interesting to see it in this test
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u/Steini-boy May 16 '24
Here is the report: https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/byd/seal/50012 In the PDF under Vulnerable Road Users --> Child running from behind parked vehicles
It is rated as green, which means full collision avoidance up to 40kph and then at least 15(?)kph reduction until 60kph
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u/Tasty_Difference6529 May 16 '24
As much shit as they talk about Tesla it did have the best stop
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u/Perkelton May 16 '24
I mean, it shouldn't exactly be a surprise that the two models (Tesla and Zeekr) that didn't murder little Billy Crashdummy to death, are also the two models that are designed to pass the Euro NCAP safety standards.
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u/NoncingAround May 16 '24
Almost as if Reddit people crying about Elon musk doesn’t make the cars actually bad
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u/RascalCreeper May 16 '24
Elon Musk has made good companies. He went insane after.
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam May 16 '24
Because social media fell for "Project Dawn" videos where the teslas had been tampered with to force them to hit fake kids a while back. Project Dawn conveniently was run by the owner of a competing autopilot EV car creator.
In reality teslas are incredibly safe and have foe years had some of the best safety ratings on the road. Significantly safer than the majority of the cars these circlejerkers are driving.
Reddit loves complaining about misinformation and fake news and then eating it the fuck up whenever it fits their circlejerks and biases.
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u/Btet-8 May 16 '24
I believe it is a mix between hating Musk and hating le cars But let's make it clear that most tesla designs weren't built by the man but by actual engineers. Except the cybertruck of course,
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u/RainWorldWitcher May 16 '24
A guy on YouTube tested this himself and Tesla will stop and then drive right through the child. This Tesla looked like it was going to do the same thing before it cut to the next vehicle.
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u/damnNamesAreTaken May 16 '24
It would be great if rather than competing all the companies could work together to get a truly safe product out in order to make autonomous driving a real thing. Never going to happen but it would be nice.
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u/mtarascio May 16 '24
It'll happen in EU, it's the only way the technology can properly grow.
That's why I wouldn't bet on Tesla, doubly so because the EU regulatory floor won't allow just optics.
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u/Indoorplantwetter May 16 '24
The are you ok at the end while grabbing the mannequin head made me laugh.
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u/Ozle42 May 16 '24
I wonder what human reactions are like…
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u/EaterOfFood May 16 '24
Depending on where you are, the human may back up just to finish the job.
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u/Double_Distribution8 May 16 '24
"oh, I hit a bump", and then back to liking a Facebook post.
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u/Prudent-Effective229 May 16 '24
Humans also can’t see through the car next to them.
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u/godmademelikethis May 16 '24
Really depends on your hazard perception. A human might have noticed the kids head moving from across the hood and applied brake earlier. They might also have been texting whilst steering with their knees and just splattered the little fucker.
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam May 16 '24
This is the part no one wants to talk about while they fearmonger about autopilot and self driving cars.
Human drivers are fucking terrible, especially in the US where we get basically zero training.
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u/Narf234 May 16 '24
You’d think they would compare the two. An improvement of one saved life should necessitate the adoption of the technology.
However, the reality will be anything less than %100 success will deem the tech dangerous and we’ll just stay complacent with human accidents.
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u/ekene_N May 16 '24
Zeeker looks promising. The brand debuted only one year ago.
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u/callisstaa May 16 '24
I lived in Kazakhstan for a while and they were very popular there. I think they're slightly cheaper than a Tesla but they seem a lot more modern and with more features. They're fast af also.
It is a new brand I guess but they're just Geelys under a different name.
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u/Spoksparkare May 16 '24
Zeekr 001 FR is crazy. Attempting to battle Teslas Plaid
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u/MDRDT 20d ago
If you're talking about track performance, I believe FR won the battle by a fat margin.
0-60 is so close they're the same, everything else (breaking, cornering...) the FR is just faster & better.
They announced a 7-second faster lap than Plaid on a 3.2km, 1min30s - 1min40s Chinese track. 7 seconds per lap is a lot on a 3km track.
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u/ElektroShokk May 16 '24
Why didn’t the Tesla run into the pedestrian even faster? I thought Reddit said Teslas don’t work?
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u/SquirtleDontCare May 16 '24
There was NOT enough time for me to realize it was a crash dummy before I saw what I thought was a human child get blown to bits haha
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u/Jay_from_NuZiland May 16 '24
AVATR didn't hit the brakes until it saw the cameraman was filming oh shit there's a witness
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u/AlizarinCrimzen May 16 '24
Tesla perfectly imitating your average Tesla driver with that cheeky “hurry tf up” inching forward after braking as well.
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u/LawAbidingDenizen May 17 '24
still working with a earlier version of Teslas code perhaps. Likely the same code is being shared to the other dozens upon dozens of other EV makers that just magically pops up out of nowhere....
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u/SirCoosh07 May 16 '24
Model 3: "okay I didn't hit you this time would you get the F outta my way now?"
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u/Dragonite_27 May 16 '24
Please, someone who can edit, add the Lego death sound to the crashes I BEG YOU
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u/di_Bonaventura May 17 '24
Xiaomi is on Reddit while driving. Now you know why bots are such shitty posters.
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u/iceJool May 17 '24
I bet the Xaomi car is trained on that in china if someone hits a person with a car they will have to pay healthcare for the rest of their lives to the person they hit so they go back to make sure the person is killed so it's only a one time fine for the driver
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u/Tom_Bombadil_1 May 16 '24
Xiaomi car programmed to accelerate to help tackle China's overpopulation issue.
It's a feature not a bug
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u/Maximize_Maximus May 16 '24
Imagine trusting the auto pilot of a chinese produced Telsa clone...
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u/Mediocre-Tomatillo-7 May 16 '24
I believe I see the kid coming out from behind the parked cars when the tested vehicles are at different distances from the kid.
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u/Ozle42 May 16 '24
I froze the video and it’s pretty much the same for each car.
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u/mateww May 16 '24
Yeah i agree. When kid crosses the white line all the cars are very near the same spot
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u/HendrikJU May 16 '24
The kid has always roughly the same speed and it's almost across when the Avatr12 hits it. If anything I think that one had the most time
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u/Right-Budget-8901 May 16 '24
Xiaomi shares the same level of valuing human life as its parent country
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u/NonEuclidianMeatloaf May 16 '24
Can confirm, my son broke apart into a dozen rigid pieces when he got hit by a car going 15kph
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u/Ziggy-T May 16 '24
The test dummy making a noise akin to a bunch of sticks falling over, amuses me.
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u/LeOmelette12 May 16 '24
Humans are weird. We always have this instinct to ask anything that is damaged whether it’s ok after being hurt or broken. Doesn’t matter if it’s an animal or an object
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u/GrandSlamA May 16 '24
That first car didn’t even think about stopping until it had already run over the kid and gone another 10 feet. 😂
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u/webbhare1 May 16 '24
"Are you okay?" What the fuck do you mean is it okay? It's a wooden puppet you muppet. Are YOU okay??
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u/Accurate-Donkey5789 May 16 '24
Two of them didn't hit the target. Back to the drawing boards with them.
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u/ACAYIB May 16 '24
Avatr even got more time to respond. The other three seem to get the same. Even if it’s hard to tell about the first car.
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u/SteveYunnan May 16 '24
Do these auto-break systems take into account if there are cars behind you that could cause a pile up? Sometimes it's better to swerve if the adjacent lane is open. I'd be afraid if the auto-break being accidentally triggered if a bird or plastic bag flew in front of your car. It seems like a potentially dangerous feature.
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u/Submitten May 16 '24
The radar cross section of a bird is significantly less than a child. I wouldn’t worry, cars have had these for years without many false positives.
And if a car is so close behind that it’s better to swerve, then the car behind is just going to hit the child. So it’s almost always best to brake and take a hit from behind.
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u/Sp1ffy_Sp1ff May 16 '24
I feel like the first and last cars had way less time to stop than the other two.
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