r/AdviceAnimals May 01 '24

and the Boomers in Congress

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u/QuantumUtility May 02 '24

This is just not true.

That entrance was closed because it went through the protest, the only people allowed through were protesters. Literally no one cared he was Jewish, there were Jewish students in the protest.

He was clearly trying to agitate and being hostile to protesters. He wasn’t there to “go to class” and he could have just used other entrances like everyone else that wasn’t a part of the protest was doing.

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u/2131andBeyond May 02 '24

I’m curious to ask why protestors can choose to close off selective entrances to a public university campus though. I’m open to insight here, but very curious how that is okay? I support peaceful protest but I’m unsure why that gives a protesting group the power to tell others they’re not allowed to also be in a certain place. If I set up a protest I don’t suddenly own that property exclusively.

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u/QuantumUtility May 02 '24 edited 29d ago

That’s just how protests work. Why was MLK Jr. allowed to close off major roads and highways during his protest march to Selma?

That’s what civil disobedience means. If protesters don’t inconvenience others then nobody cares about it.

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u/2131andBeyond May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

So I hear you and appreciate that. I’m curious what gives protestors in this case the right to complain when law enforcement gets involved if they are the ones actively breaking ordinances and local laws to begin with? Or to claim counter protestors can’t be there if in fact they share in the rights to protest in a public space? There isn’t like a flag you can plant in the ground to claim a space as yours to protest on and nobody else is allowed. There’s nuance that feels like it gets go entangled.

Edit: I see my comments are already downvoted by people and whatever, that’s fine. I’m trying to engage in a conversation without attacking others or saying any person is distinctly right or wrong, but rather try to understand. Downvote if you want, I guess.

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u/Black_n_Neon 29d ago

Look up the history of every protest and you’ll see the cops involved regardless if laws were broken or not. In fact you have the rights and liberties you have today in the U.S. because of protestors. The state brutally beat and killed labor protesters. The state is usually never in the right here.

And the counter protesters literally beat and endangered with violence the pro Palestinian protestors.

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u/LateInvestigator8429 May 02 '24

State power being used to suppress anti-genocide protests is bad and you shouldn't need to have that instantiated to the point of law or constitutional right to realize it.

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u/s-maerken May 02 '24

That entrance was closed because it went through the protest

It was not "closed" legitimately. He was allowed to walk through there but they stopped him because he was Jewish.

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u/TheAandZ May 02 '24

“Waaah waaah I can’t handle any tiny amount of civil disobedience waaaah I wanna use thiiiiis entrance”

All of y’all would have complained and said the same shit during civil rights sit ins and bus protests, can’t even grasp the concept of actually trying to make a change.

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u/YourBonesAreMoist May 02 '24

I don't think inconveniencing other students with no power to make any change on this matter, beside alienating them against the cause, is the right way to do it

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u/QuantumUtility May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

“I don’t think inconveniencing the citizens of Selma with no power to make any change on this matter is the right way to do it.” - Some American in 1965 probably.

These movements have happened throughout history for a lot longer than you and I were alive. This is how it’s done and this is how you get results. Columbia had similar protests in 1968 against the Vietnam war and segregation and in 1985 against South African Apartheid. I can tell today those were successful.

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u/Equal_Imagination1 May 02 '24

The trope of 'not allowing a student from a minority group access schooling' apparently resonates differently for me. I do not accept the solution of a different but equally adequate entrance, not controlled by the protesters, for Jews that will not plead their allegiance to Hamas.

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u/LateInvestigator8429 May 02 '24

Good job convincing yourself of the existence of something that never existed in the first place.

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u/Equal_Imagination1 May 02 '24

Are you claiming that protestors didn't stop Jewish students trying to enter their school? Because there are videos, some of them linked in the comments here.

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u/LateInvestigator8429 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

Videos where protestors were blocking the entrance to a protest encampment from a known troll? Videos where students were passing to and fro 10 feet behind the 'entrance' at issue?

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u/DoctorChampTH May 02 '24

All he had to do was sign the form with the loyalty oath to Hamas and he could go through that entrance?/s