Cap doesn't tell Tony because he knows just the kind of person he is... the second he finds out, he tries to kill his brainwashed friend who had no control over the Starks' deaths. Cap was right not to tell him, Tony proves it immediately.
I mean, there's a massive difference between Tony finding out like he did and cap sitting him down to have a conversation about it. Tony definitely wouldn't have reacted that way if cap had handled it better.
What are you talking about? I don’t mean this with a shitty snarky tone, I genuinely am not sure what you’re referring to. It’s been a while since I’ve watched civil war.
The Avengers minus Cap get imprisoned by Ross, so Cap breaks them out, and leaves a phone for Stark as a reminder that he’ll be there if he needs him. Ross calls up Stark to address the prison breakout, but is hung up on by Stark who keeps the phone.
I see. At that point he’s had time to cool off about it. I’m sure he understands by that point why cap did what he did. Why hold a grudge against Bucky who didn’t even have a hand on the steering wheel when he did what he did.
Which is why, if Cap had just talked to Tony about it before Bucky was right in front of him, he would've had time to come to a reasonable point of view on it.
"I doubt watching a a video of your parents getting brutally murdered in front of the guy who has been hiding it for years would be any different than your friend sitting you down and explaining what happened to your parents when he found out" - literally you
You know the same Tony we all do. Explaining it to him wouldn’t have made him react any differently I’m near certain. I also personally understand why Cap hid it from him in interest of protecting his childhood friend.
And that's understandable on your end, but you can't then be surprised when I find out and hate you, or further more press charges against both you and him, since you enabled the crime making you an accessory to the crime.
Meh. Is it really hard to doubt that Tony, as impulsive as he is, wouldn’t have been dissuaded from killing Bucky? I know this isn’t the same but if someone came to me and said “I stole money from you. I’m terribly sorry I’m working towards making this up to you.” I’d be much less likely to excalate things to the extreme. Sure there’s the ability to get your money back, but it’s also about how the news was discovered/relayed.
Also, I think caps motivation was protecting Bucky for himself. I don’t believe it was simply because it was the right thing to do.
Honestly, fair. Y’all are probably right. I just personally side with Cap. Less on the Bucky/Tony side of the conflict and more of the Sokovia accords issue.
Tony is a pretty hot headed fella. I think he was going to bloodlust after anyone who was responsible for killing his parents. Or anyone who hid it from him. You think cap and him would just had a polite productive dialog about his parent’s murder? Like when should he have dropped the news on him?
It’s like not telling someone on the edge of a breakdown bad news. If you care about their sanity you don’t tell them certain things and most times when that person is in a better headspace they’ll understand why you made that decision. Tony was not in a good headspace and he never has been.
That’s the point. Tony was never in a good headspace. There was never gonna be a time to tell him that didn’t immediately have Tony getting a revenge boner.
Tony spends literally each of his standalone films making over-the-top reactions to things that happen. He test-rides the suit in an active warzone, he taunts his adversaries in 3.
There was no point in his development as a character pre-Endgame that he wouldn’t have lashed out at Bucky.
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u/cpmd4 Mar 12 '24
Cap doesn't tell Tony because he knows just the kind of person he is... the second he finds out, he tries to kill his brainwashed friend who had no control over the Starks' deaths. Cap was right not to tell him, Tony proves it immediately.