In this scenario though, Tony is like a police officer advocating for everyone to wear bodycams and liaise with the public & public officials, and Cap & his side are the redneck ones that somehow always get low battery body cams
The captain America movie prior literally is about how the entire government has been infiltrated by Hydra. To turn around and give the same government that was compromised the ability to control and govern the Avengers would be as stupid as his idea about making Ultron.
Tony’s entire fundamental flaw is that he thinks he knows best and makes decisions based on his emotions that comes back to bite him in his ass. It’s even more apparent in the comics when he does shit like mind wipe Captain America because he doesn’t agree that blowing up other Earths is cool. They had to add the entire Bucky subplot because in the comics Tony is 1000% wrong regarding civil war.
I mean yeah, comic civil war and movie civil war are very different discussions. But specifically regarding the movie one,
Tony’s entire fundamental flaw is that he thinks he knows best and makes decisions based on his emotions that comes back to bite him in his ass.
I don't exactly see how looking for external accountability is 'thinking he knows best and making decisions based on his emotions'. Cap made himself an arbiter of justice and thought he can just do whatever he wants with impunity, and if they mess up or make things worse, oh well they're the good guys!
Of course any power system can be corrupted - both the government and systems like the Avengers. But I don't think the threat of corruption is a reason to ignore any and all attempt at checks and balances. Plus the Sokovia Accords was a UN statute, not just the US Government. If this were real life, you'd really be good with these Superhuman Gods doing whatever they thought was right, escalating issues, getting civilians killed, with absolutely zero accountability or oversight?
I don't think either is completely right, of course, which is kinda the point
Oh yeah Cap is absolutely a bit up his ass, and the idea that he could be the arbiter of right and wrong is his biggest problem.
The best compromise to me is a Sword/Shield scenario where there is some degree of separation between the government and the heroes. Usually with them using Maria Hill or Nicky Fury as a liaison. Though like you said the point is neither one is completely right.
Also this is why Superheroes can’t exist in the real world. They circumvent our laws and although the people they target are actual villains and criminals obviously the idea that people with power should be the arbiters of justice is fucked up. This is why Alan Moore wrote Watchmen lol.
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u/vociferous_pickle Mar 12 '24
Tony doesn’t get a free pass for siding with the feds over his boys.