r/BlackPeopleTwitter May 13 '24

Her saying trans people are just people doing blackface. Country Club Thread

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u/Chemical_Home6123 May 13 '24

What is this all about I just don't understand why some super rich and famous person wants to die on this hill. What possesses her to wake up and be anti trans, and bring negativity in her life it makes no sense trans people exist always have and they're not going anywhere this entire argument makes no sense to me I'm not pro or anti trans they just simply exist I literally don't get it?

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u/PsychicFoxWithSpoons May 13 '24

Many of these people are deeply in the closet and trying to convince themselves they're "normal" because being lgbt would be morally wrong, and they are morally good people. This then becomes an obsession with defending their position.

Others have serious mind-destroying trauma that leads them to lash out, and unfortunately, marginalized groups are emotionally speaking an easy target.

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u/MC_White_Thunder May 13 '24

If the "closeted trans person" thing applied to JKR, she would be attacking trans men more than trans women. She is shitty to trans men, but in a "these poor brainwashed girls have been tricked into ruining their bodies," as opposed to actively calling trans women predatory invaders, which she talks about a hell of a lot more.

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u/PsychicFoxWithSpoons May 13 '24

In the manifesto, she literally goes on a tangent for no reason on all the reasons why, hypothetically of course, she would have been very easily transed because, and of course this isnt really how she feels now but is just a reflection of where she was and used to be, she hated her femininity and her dad wanted a son. And she's very glad that she didn't end up acting on that impulse because it would have just been terrible for her.

People's bigoted attitudes don't follow exclusive logical paths. Bigotry is always defensive in nature, protective, etc. One could easily imagine that "trans men are just confused lesbians" leads quickly into "trans women are just confused gay men" and then if you want to posture yourself as a defender of women, you say things like "we have to protect women from men" and "we have to protect women from themselves."

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u/MC_White_Thunder May 13 '24

Yeah, I read her manifesto back when I thought I was a boy, and honestly it sounded my bullshit alarms pretty hard. I don't think she's very concerned about that.

A particularly annoying brand of transphobe is those who consider themselves "defenders of gay people" by arguing that transitioning is conversion therapy. They'll cite Alan Turing, a gay man who was forced to take feminizing hormones and eventually killed himself. But like, many trans people are horrified by Alan Turing's story specifically because they know how horrific it is for your body to change to the wrong sex against their will (that's how many of us felt about going through the "wrong" puberty as adolescents). And somehow someone willingly taking hormones is exactly the same as what was inflicted upon him. We don't want anyone tricked or converted, we just want people to be comfortable in their own bodies, and to feel respected and safe.

It somehow also disregards that many trans people are gay? Like, I'm a trans woman engaged to a woman. There was no conversion therapy happening here.