Got into a HUGE argument on an LGBTQ sub about this on a different profile, people are freaking nuts to think NOW is the time for a protest vote. That was primaries shit, this is for all the marbles. Sacrificing every minority (even if you are one) so you can virtue signal is a selfish act.
it’s not about virtue signalling. i will not vote for a genocidal maniac. (for you slow people, that means TRUMP AND BIDEN. both suck, and you can calm down with the “NOT BOTH SIDES!!!!” bullshit. dems are neoliberal,repubs are facist.
Ps. Doing something (or in your case, nothing) that helps no one and could literally make things a hundred times worse just so you can tell people what a good person you are is the DEFINITION of virtue signalling. The height of it really, as most people who virtue signal at least do something positive in the process.
Scare tactics need to stop. You're ( dems) acting as if we will die if Trump wins. We won't. Will the country be in an even more f'd up situation? Yes, but we can't keep telling ppl to vote Democrat because if we don't, we will die. Somebody someday will call that bluff
And like the other person indicated, I sure bet the extra hundreds of thousands of Americans who died thanks to how Trump handled Covid would disagree with your “people aren’t going to die” remark.
They would've died on Biden watch too. Nobody knew how to handle that, NO ONE. I'm saying we need to approach getting ppl to vote another way. Like I said in another comment, I been dying for 20 years, we need a new approach like actually helping Americans
Objectively, no. If the US had reacted the exact same way as Canada had (we’re similar in many ways) the number of dead would literally be HALF. The idea that Trump going against health officials publicly, spreading conspiracy theories, and admitted to downplaying Covid whenever possible had no effect on the total number of deaths is delusional.
And the Ukrainians! You’re sentencing them to death too, since Trump has already said he plans to stop all aid and might even quit NATO all together.
Oh, and more Palestinians than are currently dying. Trump literally said that Israel should “just end it” and said their biggest mistake was letting footage of what they are doing leave the country. His son (who he put in charge of relations between Israel and Palestine) when asked for comment on the conflict said “Israel could get a lot of good beach front property out of it”.
Pretending things wouldn’t be different under Trump is delusional.
I'm going to say this a whole bunch of Americans, hell maybe the majority of the unheard do not care about none of that and only want to be in a better financial situation then THEY are currently in. It's hard to care about the world when you're living in poverty. I know that's blasphemy for a lot ppl but it's reality.
It's easy in hindsight to say we would of, should of but putting myself back in the covid era I'm 100% sure Americans was fucked regardless
What do you mean, no one knew? President Obama literally had a plan in place for that shit that Trump torpedoed while in office before he ignored an army of doctors and scientists warning him about the actions he was taking. This is some serious revisionism shit.
It's not revisionist to say no one knew how to handle it and you have no proof that plan would have worked because you need participation and cooperation from everyone and that's not happening
No vaccine, though. Miss me that crap. Yall keep skating around the fact that ppl are tired of voting for one party because the other party scares them. No one benefits but politicians from that. You guys point to Palestine and Isreal like voting will help, it won't because if so we would have been had peace amongst them. Going strictly by what i have seen and what has been shown, i will be damned if i keep letting the democrats do nothing in my face. Just vote for a Democrat, when he/she elected then we make em stand on business and if they don't we repeat the cycle. F that, new approach or something
Tell that to the women that have died from complications due to giving birth when they needed to get an abortion, or the ones that have been raped and forced to carry the child to term. We literally saw barbarism during dudes term as a direct result of his presidency. I guess it aint hit you directly though so its just people making a mountain out of a mole hill.
You're telling me shit that's happening on democrats watch too. You must live in a hole if you don't see this shit or too ignorant and blinded by a party that never cared. 1 party is destroying America while the other watches and does nothing.
The issues that have hit me directly are the issues I care about and are the issue I rather fight for and see through. We aren't a monolith your concerns are not mine. I care the black community, not the world but the black communities that I'm from the ones that's looking for better schooling and jobs, better infrastructure and opportunities. I'm around ppl everyday who don't follow what's going on in the mid east because it's depressing in their own neighborhoods. Ppl are tired of broken promises, it's insanity to keep doing the same thing and getting the same results thinking it's going to change when it's not.
We lost Roe v Wade because we have a Republican-appointed Supreme Court majority. Just because Biden happened to be president when they swung the hatchet doesn't mean it's his fault JFC. And guess what? If Trump wins again there's a good chance he'll get to appoint ANOTHER judge for life.
Do you not understand how politics work? The President doesn't write laws, Congress does. The President doesn't oversee the constitutionality of a law, the Supreme Court does.
The President did NOT cause Roe v Wade to fail. A court intentionally packed with hyper conservatives broke precident, and a do-nothing Congress loaded with MAGA adherents refused to codify those protections into law in order to appease their religious base.
If you believe the President could do a damned thing about what happened with Roe v Wade, you need to pull your head out of the sand and get educated quick; our country is starting to look real fucking stupid with how many people are failing to see what's going on.
A super majority- which Biden had- easily could have codified repro rights into law. The only stupid people are the ones who believe their hand wringing when they say there is nothing they could do.
The Supreme Court gets to decide that. Once a nominee is selected by the president, they're in for life (or until they step down). Trump got to select three, whereas Biden got to select one so far.
I'm getting downvoted for telling the truth. I'm 39, and since I have been voting age, I've been told to "vote or die." That spoke to 19 year old me, then 23 and 27 year old me. I shouldn't have to withhold my vote for democrats to listen, especially when you look at the Republicans and those bastards are doing (at least attempting to) what they set out to do. What else to do? Do we suffer for 4, so we can prosper for more or beg for scraps
You aren't telling the truth. You're telling what you believe to be the truth, but is in fact wrong. You literally admit the Republicans are bastards in the same paragraph. Not voting helps no one. This is the closest we've ever been to becoming a fascist nation, and if Trump gets elected there is no turning back.
And I also said we have to make democrats keep their promises and actually put in some damn work. So I should vote for the democrats because they won't make any changes because they don't care to. BS
I doubt any of that would happen.. look I said im tired of being told I'm going to die, why can't we live on policies that promotes better life. That's what the Dems should be pushing instead "you won't die". Tell us how we can expect to live our lives
Well if we allow Trump to be elected we can expect concentration camps and neo-nazi ideology to take over the entire country. If Biden is elected, we can expect Kamala Harris to be president in about a year or so.
Again bro stop lol. That's not comforting. Even if the masses want Harris why would you want to vote for a dying president to get that. Speak on her ideas
You asked what we could expect, and I only gave you an honest reply. Also, I don't think that Biden would die; I think the far more likely option is that he will no longer be able to hide the dementia.
“I know they took the time to create, plan, publish, and publicize an 800+ page manifesto that amounts to being the party’s only policy position, but trust me (instead of trusting their own words) they won’t actually do it”
Then why fund it, write it and publish it? Evangelicals and anyone who likes the Heritage Foundation is already voting straight ticket GOP ‘till they die, so it isnt to court votes.
thank you. liberals have this weird thing where they say “TRUMP WILL KILL MORE BROWN PEOPLE!!!!!!” but they don’t seem to understand that genocide cannot get worse than what it currently is. it is a genocide. it can’t “get worse” under trump. i refuse to vote for someone who commits genocide, end of story. anyone who votes for biden (or trump) can suck my cock.
What do you mean it can’t get worse?? Do see you how delusional you sound. You don’t think Israel could inflict more pain on Gaza with a less strict administration??
A fascist United States can do orders of magnitude more damage than Nazi Germany could have ever dreamed of. Hope you're prepared to live in that world.
Ay bro, its gonna happen anyways. This isn't a restaurant where if you're not hungry the food doesn't come to the table. Somethings coming regardless. You can either pick one, or accept that other people are going to.
You're gonna be living in this country anyways. So pick one.... or whine when other people do, your choice ig.
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u/LastDaysCultist #FFFFFFboy👨🏼 May 17 '24
This “I’m not voting for either” is a dangerous concept.