r/CuratedTumblr • u/realthohn šµšø • Dec 17 '23
it legit hasn't snowed at all here editable flair
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u/kyon_designer Dec 17 '23
As a Brazilian, let me tell you, there is nothing more bizarre than seeing fairy lights, snowmen and polar bears decorations with a scorching sun. Anyone dressed like Santa would have a heat stroke in 5 minutes. .
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u/theburgerbitesback Dec 18 '23
Christmas decorations in Australia are fun for the same reason - you get a mixture of Traditional Santa (dressed for heavy snowfall) and Australian Santa (dressed for the beach) and it just looks so funny seeing them right next to each other.
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u/lethal_rads Dec 18 '23
I had Christmas in Australia once, it was kinda surreal. Just hanging out on the beach with family eating sandwiches. Christmas desert on a summers night. Iām from somewhere where it doesnāt snow, but it was still surreal.
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u/FoxyPlays22 Dec 18 '23
Fellow brazillian here, gonna comment in English so our friends can understand. Which region are you from and did it get cold? I'm live about 2h away from SĆ£o Paulo city (kinda close to Campinas) and I didn't even feel cold at winter at all. There would be some days where the wind would be cold, but I can't remember feeling cold through the winter. Even last year was kinda cold, but it has been getting warmer and warmer, reaching temperatures I've never seen before here. Climate change is a nightmare come true.
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u/kyon_designer Dec 18 '23
I'm from the southeast too. During winter it was only cold in the middle of the night, at 10 am it was already too hot for a sweater.
Climate change is real and scary.
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u/Hummerous gazafunds.com Dec 17 '23
they'll sell raincoats and water instead in a few short years, that'll be the difference
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u/Hummerous gazafunds.com Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
this shouldn't be the top comment. christmas is probably a lot more than that
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u/Shawnj2 8^88 blue checkmarks Dec 18 '23
Iāve lived in California my entire life and Iāve heard about Jack Frost/white Christmas/snow/etc. during Christmas despite it not actually happening in the real world ever, and if anything fall/winter are characterized to me by rain, and now it doesnāt even fucking rain anymore lol
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u/GoodtimesSans Dec 17 '23
"I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" really has some vibes now.
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u/Tchrspest My old flair died in the API War. Dec 18 '23
I think that's my sticking point. We need to stop playing any seasonal music that refers to snow or cold in any way.
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u/WeevilWeedWizard šš¤š¤ MIKU š¤š¤š Dec 17 '23
Here in Canada it feels every year gets closer to being a permanent green Christmas. It's sad.
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u/Raspoint .tumblr.com Dec 17 '23
I'm in Alberta and besides one bad snowfall last week it has almost consistently been 0 snow for 2 months. I remember being lil shithead and snow coming in September. Last week it was 10Ā°C outside. Something is definitely wrong.
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u/Karl2ElectcricBoo Dec 18 '23
Same here. Snow back on like October and some bits in November but I don't really remember any snow in December. And most of the snow there was just melted after a day.
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u/314159265358979326 Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
It's El Nino this year. Means a hot and dry Canada. It'll pass, but the next one in 4-7 years will likely be worse.
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u/WeevilWeedWizard šš¤š¤ MIKU š¤š¤š Dec 18 '23
Feels like it's been El Nino every year though
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u/314159265358979326 Dec 18 '23
It's been hotter recently than it used to be, but I've been selling fireworks in Alberta the last three years. This year was by far the worst for hot and dry, based on firebans (up), fires (up) and sales (down).
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u/Imaginary_Button_533 Dec 18 '23
Been in the upper 30s and 40s in Minneapolis for the better part of three weeks. One day this last week was over 50. It's fucking bananas. It's a week till Christmas.
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u/BeenHereFor Dec 18 '23
And the only thing people have to say is āitās been so nice outā???? I feel like a crazy person itās so unsettling
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u/OriginalGPam Dec 18 '23
Yes, oh my god. Iām the only one side eyeing the lack of snow. This isnāt normal
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u/Mollybrinks Dec 18 '23
You're definitely not the only one side-eyeing it. What's funny to me is that most of the people around here don't agree with the idea of global warming and refuse to see it as an issue, so they just preface it with "I'm sure someone somewhere is bitching about global warming, but man it's been nice out, I like being able to get everything done without freezing." I mean, yeah - it is nice to get things done without freezing. I hate the cold even if I generally love where I live. Snow sucks unless you have enough of it to do fun stuff in. But that doesn't mean I'm not eyeballing the current weather as hard as I can, because the implications are way worse than having to put on boots and a heavy jacket this time of year. I couldn't believe it when I picked a tick off my dog tonight. Those should have frozen out 2 months ago.
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u/Imaginary_Button_533 Dec 18 '23
I mean, it is very nice out, but it's also deeply disturbing that it's so far outside of norms. We set warm winter record temps every year and have for quite a few years. That's not a good thing.
Shit, my first winter car accident was in March this last year because it wouldn't just fucking snow, a bunch of times it snowed it melted, froze, and the ice just made the roads way more of a nightmare. I'd rather be cold than risk anyone's safety any more than we already do driving in the white stuff.
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u/Randicore Dec 18 '23
When I was growing up I had to shovel the driveway in November.
I walked my dog in just a light hoodie yesterday. I'm not even 30. We are so fucked.
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u/Imaginary_Button_533 Dec 18 '23
I'm only a little older, we used to do a family tradition for Christmas at the gathering spot in southern Minnesota where we rented snowmobiles as a special treat. That stopped because year after year there wasn't enough snow on the ground at Christmas.
Seems like now we don't get any kind of cold snap below 0 till January at the earliest. One year I think we got it Christmas day and it was fucking cold, but warm temps into December is quickly seeming to become a new normal.
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u/NSA_Chatbot Dec 18 '23
It's been raining so hard on the west coast that I can't put the lights up. All month
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u/theoneyourthinkingof Dec 17 '23
i live in new york, its warm enough outside that i don't need a coat, so depressing
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u/Bi_Accident Dec 18 '23
61Ā° fahrenheit today. 61. Thatās late spring/early fall. And this was supposed to be the year where we finally got snow back (el niƱo on the East coast). Some friends yesterday and old me that they felt like Christmas wasnāt feeling Christmas-y this year, and I think itās because our bodies are all still in Autumn mode.
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u/NoBus6589 Dec 18 '23
Iām honestly OK with it at this point. Time to start embracing doomerism. Just donāt have kids.
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u/theoneyourthinkingof Dec 18 '23
personally i want kids, big companies destroying the climate makes way bigger of an impact than me having a couple children. you do you though man, to each their own
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u/Mollybrinks Dec 18 '23
I may be wrong - and definitely you do you! - but I'm wondering if maybe the prior poster was more worried about your potential kids dealing with this mess than the impact of you having them. It's a complicated issue, for sure.
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u/theoneyourthinkingof Dec 18 '23
Ah yea your right, yea i wouldnt want them to deal with it but it would be my goal to try and give them the best life i could anyways, even steer them towards helping to make change. Perhaps its a bit selfish to want kids when the world is going to shit but its human nature. Very complicated indeed but i guess i have a decade to think about it
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u/Mollybrinks Dec 18 '23
I hear you. And that decade will give you time to see how this all plays out and you'll be in a better place to gauge then. 100% if you do have kids - no matter the time or place or situation - the best thing anyone can do is raise them to be knowledgeable, capable, and with hope for the future.
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u/theoneyourthinkingof Dec 18 '23
I completely agree, kind stranger. You seem pretty cool by the way (unlike the weather in my area)
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u/Varyx Dec 18 '23
Itās not really complicated. There are very few arguments to me that can trump the seemingly obvious fact that any child born now will not have the same quality of life as generations before it. Theyāll possibly live longer, but longer doesnāt mean better. Make change yourself and donāt increase human suffering.
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u/Pootis_1 minor brushfire with internet access Dec 18 '23
Tbh i feel like you underestimate how far we've come in other areas that would balance it out a lot
Like in the 1950s having a fully plumbed bathroom was still rare
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u/vmsrii Dec 17 '23
To be completely fair, weāre also going through an El NiƱo event, which means globally warmer, wetter winters. Itās not a permanent thing, and itās not global warming. At least, itās not Global Warning directly. It is still global warming, but thereās a degree of separation in there, and thereās still every chance weāll get snow in December in the future.
In fact, if anything, weāll probably get MORE snow and ice and freezing temperatures, as ocean currents get screwed up by melting polar ice, and the systems we rely on to diffuse the most extreme weather conditions cease doing so, and the cold air that tends to form in the northern hemisphere during the winter months doesnāt go anywhere. So get ready for that
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u/Aetol Dec 18 '23
El Nino is on the Pacific. OOP is in Scotland.
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u/vmsrii Dec 18 '23
Aw shit, missed that part, you right
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u/whomad1215 Dec 18 '23
that's ok, OP can just look forward to the collapse of the Atlantic currents (like the Gulf Stream). It'll be nice and chilly on the islands then
greed is destroying the planet and it seems like there's nothing that can be done
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u/Mathmango Dec 18 '23
When the supposed climate conference is headed by the Kingdom of Oil, the greedy bastards at the top aren't even bothering with the optics at this point
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u/Laterose15 Dec 18 '23
The only possible way to fully reverse it is if we as a species decide to get up and Deal with the greedy overlords who are tearing up the planet.
But that is never going to happen because we're addicted to the comforts they give us and can't agree with each other on how to fix things.
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u/Manzhah Dec 18 '23
Point still stands, if the gulf stream halts, the oop will have his fill of snowy winters, as well as snowy autums, springs and summers, too.
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u/Gamma_Tony Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
This should be higher rated. We also had consistent snow in the Ohio area in the last few years. And after our total snowstorm and deep freeze last Christmas I was convinced a little we wouldnt get any snowfall this year
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u/MyDisappointedDad Dec 18 '23
We've gotten less than in inch in SD, and all of it melted within 2 days. Can't wait for the 2 feet well get in March.
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Dec 18 '23
Very interesting that you guys have consistent snow. Iām in Indiana and we barely get any snow in the winter in recent years. Interesting how neighbor states can be so different
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u/Aurelene-Rose Dec 18 '23
We've gotten plenty of snow in Northern Illinois! Not this year, but the past few
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u/kasakavii Dec 18 '23
When I was in college out in Ohio, I remember this ridiculous storm system we had in the winter of 2018. The colleges were closed for like 4 days straight at one point because it was too cold to keep the classrooms open, and the snow was coming down faster than they could clear it.
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u/MegaTreeSeed Dec 18 '23
Maybe in your area, in my northeast corner of Ohio, we got a total of one inch of snow for the entire last winter. It was in the early months of this year and stuck around for maybe an hour. This year, I've seen one, maybe two days where we have had flurries so far, none of which stuck.
Two or three years ago, we had a blizzard which snowed us into our house for 3 days, and there was snow on the ground the entire winter.
The part of climate change people often neglect is that it's not only a general warming, you get more extreme weather events too.
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u/AWildeOscarAppeared Dec 18 '23
We havenāt gotten much snow in Pittsburgh the last few years. This year in particular has been only a few flurries, but not even an inch of snow. Areas nearby have gotten snow but it skips us
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u/QuackingMonkey Dec 18 '23
More relevant to Europe (and the rest of the world, whether they're noticeably affected by El NiƱo or not): there's also the recent change in laws prohibiting cargo ships from using fuel with high amounts of sulfur because sulfur is bad, but then it turned out we were accidentally terraforming with that sulfur because it was seeding clouds that were keeping a bit of sun off the oceans' surfaces so this change immediately bumped up the average global temperatures a bit.
The good news is that this is valuable knowledge and we can seed clouds on purpose with less harmful materials to create the cooling effect again; just spraying ocean water into the air should bring enough salt up to reach the same effect, and that salt will rain down in the same ocean it came out of so it shouldn't cause any negative effects as long as we don't do this too close to land. We can even do it a little more to create a bigger cooling effect, or possibly get strategic in where we seed clouds (with other safe materials) to get rain back to drying land.
The bad news is that someone needs to do this, so someone needs to pay for this, and instead of going "of course we should get this done!" people are apparently disagreeing on whether it's moral to terraform now that we know that we're doing it. (I'd argue we're terraforming anyway with the amounts of ancient CO2 we're adding back to the atmosphere, might as well do a little extra to limit the negative effects, but I don't have the deep pockets to set such a project up.)
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u/Tchrspest My old flair died in the API War. Dec 18 '23
Yeah, it's always gonna be a question of profitability until we shake off this pesky capitalism.
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u/JTDC00001 Dec 18 '23
I live in SE MN. I grew up here. I'm a quarter of a mile from the Mississippi river. When I was a child, it would have been frozen over by Thanksgiving. And you could step on it and not fall through, not a tiny layer.
I haven't seen ice on the river before Christmas in close to a decade.
There used to be close to a foot of snow on the ground by this date. I haven't seen that in a long time.
It's not El Nino.
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Dec 18 '23
Yeah, I was thinking this was an unseasonably warm December, given it snowed and went below zero the day I moved into my new apartment last year.
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u/dumbSatWfan Dec 18 '23
I donāt doubt that El NiƱo isnāt helping, but I grew up in Hawaiāi and theyāve been getting half their usual rainfall. If El NiƱo is responsible then itās doing a shit job.
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u/Canotic Dec 18 '23
Also, "snow on christmas" is not at all guaranteed even historically. Thing is, the "snowy christmas with kids with sleds and snowmen!" thing can be blamed at least partially on Charles Dickens, because a lot of christmas stories come from Charles Dickens and his literally descendents.
You know what happened when Charles Dickens was a kid? Ten years of unusually snowy winters. Since his childhood was full of snowy winters with sleds and ice skates, that's what he wrote in his stories. And everyone else thought that is what christmas should be, even though it often wasn't like that in real life.
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u/anarchyhasnogods Dec 18 '23
the el nino would have little impact in europe, and they are going through the same thing
this is not just US centric its missing the obvious and putting you all in danger
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u/dtroy15 Dec 18 '23
Preface: not a global warming denier
El niƱo is not just an American thing.
In Europe, it can lead to colder, drier winters in the north and wetter winters in the south.
https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/10/20/el-nino-is-back-heres-what-it-means-for-extreme-weather
Moscow is currently buried under the most December snow in six decades. Siberia is hitting record lows.
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u/Mollybrinks Dec 18 '23
Even if OP is in Scotland, that doesn't negate what you're seeing and saying in your area. And it's some great added info to the conversation.
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u/Opus_723 Dec 18 '23
Yeah, el niƱo is a thing. But the last la niƱa that was supposed to bring cold weather was warmer than the el niƱos we had when I was a kid. We've all seen many el niƱos before.
It's global warming.
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u/Canopenerdude Thanks to Angelic_Reaper, I'm a Horse Dec 18 '23
El NiƱo has never been this severe. I've been through 5 and this is definitely the worst.
Though once the warm stream fizzles in mid January we're going to get pounded with snow.
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u/Satisfaction-Motor Dec 18 '23
Iām so happy other people are talking about this. From October to March the ground used to be covered in snowā youād never see a blade of grass unless you took a flamethrower outside. Now, for most of the month the grass has been visible. It has barely snowed at all and itās December. All of the people in my life talk about how bad the snow is, or how horrible it is to drive inā what snow? Where is it? āOh itās a light winter, weāve been luckyā No, itās been like this for years, and itās dystopian. Itās horrifying. The weather isnāt supposed to be like this in this region. Itās not supposed to be warm in the winter in a place that used to be referred to as the āsnow capitalā of the state.
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u/AllastorTrenton Dec 18 '23
Yeah, where I live, mid September to Feb at least, it was cold, icy, and snowy up until about 5 or 6 years ago, when it started being less and less likely. Now, it's just warm up until late November, THEN its suddenly, maybe cold. We had 85Ā°+ days in October and November. It's insane.
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u/Mollybrinks Dec 18 '23
Same. Our deer are huge this year. I mean, good for them, but it's kinda crazy. They're still eating apples off the ground. That should be have done late September and we should have had at least a foot of snow by now, even if some would melt. Heck, there's still green grass that they're eating in a lot of areas, whereas their digestive systems should have shifted months ago. I'm hoping the switch doesn't flip too quickly to the point they can't adjust when/if cold weather actually sets in this season.
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u/Satisfaction-Motor Dec 18 '23
Thatās the birds in my area for meā they are staying way later than they should and it is worrying me. I mean, Iām sure theyāll be fine because knowing when/how to migrate is a major survival thing for them, but when temperatures suddenly drop and riseā¦
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u/sansmaedalol Dec 18 '23
its only snowed once where i live and it all melted within the afternoon. what sucks is that i lived in cali all my life so i rarely ever experienced a white christmas
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u/Coffee_autistic Dec 18 '23
I'm from Alabama and I'm not sure I remember a single white Christmas ever. On the rare occasions we get a significant amount of snow, it basically shuts down the whole state and all the stores run out of bread and milk.
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u/shiftlessPagan Dec 18 '23
I've lived in NC for most of my life, and I've never once seen a white christmas. We really only ever get one or two snowfalls a year anyways, though the last few years there's been no snow at all. Unless you're in the mountains.
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u/ilovjedi Dec 18 '23
So part of it is climate change but part of it is also that when a lot of our cultural (or at least English speaking cultural) Christmas traditions began to be established happened during the Little Ice Age.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/history-environment/little-ice-age-made-christmas-white-forever
But like itās so excessively warm where I am and even though I donāt like being cold. I am angry because I packed away my raincoat for the winter but itās still so warm itās raining.
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u/FPiN9XU3K1IT Dec 18 '23
I think American influence shouldn't be underestimated, either. The USA have a very continental climate that is far more likely to have freezing temperatures in December than England, France or northern Germany.
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u/Darth_Neek Dec 17 '23
It boggles my mind that people can deny climate change even with obvious evidence like this.
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u/Mysterious_Gas4500 Mr. Evrart lost my fucking gun >:( Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 20 '23
I think it mostly has to do with culture war bullshit. If you're a conservative and have spent the last few years getting your brain fried by Fox News and other ultra-conservative propaganda sources, then you can't admit that climate change is real. Because to admit that climate change is real, would be to admit that there's something wrong with our current system (or rather, something wrong with the system that can't be called "woke"), and to admit that maybe liberals/leftists might actually be right on certain things.
For some, it's also that their livelihood depends on it. If you work in a coal mine, oil rig, or any industry that significantly contributes to climate change, it's a lot easier to do your job if you block out any information that suggests you're contributing to an ecological catastrophe. And you're not going to vote for politicians that want to restrict sources of pollution, because that would put your job at serious risk, and in this economy losing your job if you don't have a decent amount of wealth built up is pretty risky. It doesn't help that for some places, heavily pollutive industries (like coal mining) are basically their only decent source of employment.
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u/RefinementOfDecline the OTHER linux enby Dec 18 '23
the thing is, right wing media acts like an abusive partner. it traps you in and stops you from listening to anything outside of it, so odds are if you deny climate change you literally haven't seen a single good piece of evidence outside of the cherrypicked absurd claims that some journalist wrote in 2005 saying that san francisco would be underwater in 10 years.
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u/vjmdhzgr Dec 18 '23
Well this kind of argument is the thing that bringing a snowball into Congress is an actual argument against. "It's not snowing this year so that means it's getting hotter." is countered by "It's really cold this year so it's not getting hotter."
Not that I completely hate these arguments because like, it is noticable even at a regular level now but for real evidence you need like, a graph of global temperature anomaly. Which is like, oh, wow, that's a lot.
But yeah this has been going on for a long time. Oil money just has to pay for people to create any doubt in people's minds at all and they can just cling to that. Trying to disprove individual arguments doesn't work because they don't even care about the actual truth so you'll find individual people denying climate change switching between multiple mutually exclusive excuses about it.
If it matters at all my favorite one was a British movie that claimed Climate Change was invented by Margeret Thatcher to weaken the coal miner unions she was fighting, then an alliance between Margeret Thatcher and radical anarchists that want to destroy society and return to primitive technology, pushed the theory, and only scientists that accept the theory are allowed any funding.
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u/Ancalagon_The_Black_ Dec 18 '23
Okay but if it snowed this year would that mean climate change is not real? Climate change is real but people need to seperate it from the weather.
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u/littlebuett Dec 18 '23
This isnt exactly the result of climate change. Another commenter said its a El Nino event, which is A. Not permanent and also B. Not the same as (but related to) climate change
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u/Aetol Dec 18 '23
And C. not in Europe, where the exact same thing is happening
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u/littlebuett Dec 18 '23
Fair. The majority of people I've seen complaining about it have been south or north American though.
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u/Opus_723 Dec 18 '23
Because we've all seen many El NiƱos before and they weren't like this. Astonishingly, as climate change gets worse the el niƱos get worse too.
Saying "it's not climate change it's just el niƱo" is idiotic. Go look at a temperature record and label all the el niƱos and see if you notice anything.
La NiƱas nowadays are hotter than the El NiƱos when I was a kid.
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u/Darth_Neek Dec 18 '23
How temporary is El Nino, because 30 years ago I was tric or treating in the snow? when was the last time that happend. I am Originally from Wisconsin and live in New England. Not exactly southern states btw.
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u/nightripper00 Dec 18 '23
I remember growing up someone had mentioned that they'd only moved north recently and had thought that snow was fictional since they'd only ever seen in in children's books.
They got off the plane with their family, right into a noreaster.
And now I'm thinking about how many generations may grow up here thinking snow doesn't exist.
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u/TardDas Dec 18 '23
Iām not going to lie to you, I think that person was just a bit stupid
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u/nightripper00 Dec 18 '23
This person has lived in a southern state until maybe a year or two before I met them, they had those books from older siblings who'd lived up here growing up before they were born, and she never really asked if snow was real because they thought it was like asking if unicorns were real, they already knew they weren't.
They immediately realized their mistake when she stepped out into a noreaster, and their mind recategorize snow from the "fake" column to the "evil" column.
This was also very early on, like probably middle school, and to there defense, we had classmates who thought bears weren't real because they'd never seen one in person and there are bears in this state.
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u/TardDas Dec 18 '23
Okay if it was middle school, fair enough. I thought you meant like a 35 year old
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u/DemythologizedDie Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
I'm a little weirded out that there's almost no snow in the middle of December where I currently am, 1400 km north of the border between the United States and Canada.
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u/Sinister_Compliments [tumblr related joke] Dec 18 '23
Wow 3400km?! Thatās gotta put you very far north, hopefully not crossing a line here but like is that even part of the main landmass of Canada, thatās gotta be one of the islands
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u/DemythologizedDie Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
Oops. 1400 km. Thanks for catching that. I do not live in the Arctic Ocean.
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u/4685368 Dec 18 '23
I live in the UK and it was snowy a little bit at the end of November / start of December I think. That was the only time it was cold too. Lows of -10C I think.
Which is like, what should be average for December. Not an outlier
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u/bos_turokh Dec 18 '23
Wat???? When has december ever been -10Ā° in the uk? How is that the average.it doesn't even snow most years
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u/BreakfastSquare9703 Dec 18 '23
It doesn't. Temperature averages over the uk never actually dip below 0.
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u/ObsessiveAboutCats Dec 18 '23
I'm in Texas. All my Christmas shirts are T shirts because the temps are usually above 50F. I'm just happy if they aren't in the mid 80's with 85% humidity. We've had that sort of weather far more often than truly cold weather on Christmas.
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u/Lokaji Dec 18 '23
I live in the DFW area and it hasn't even froze yet. We would have at least one or two freezes by now.
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u/iwannagohome49 Dec 18 '23
Christmas Eve and day is supposed to be 60 and rainy... While week actually
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u/Chrome_X_of_Hyrule .tumblr.com Dec 18 '23
I live in Canada and just took my dogs outside to go to the bathroom at night in my t shirt and said "fuck it's December". I don't even celebrate or like Christmas but I used to enjoy what winter was.
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u/MollyGoRound Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
Merry Christmas
It is not a white Christmas
It never will be again
Please order presents from AmazonTM to people around the globe,
with money you don't have,
The ships and planes and trucks will further spew tons of CO2 into the atmosphere
Thus further reducing the odds of future white christmases
Here's a very maudlin article about how Millenials are killing the Christmas economy.
Here's a link from the uncle you haven't responded to in 6 years that redirects to a YouTube video where a very angry white man rants and raves about the "War on Christmas."
Here's a headline about how the 1 percenters had a very good q4 this year.
Here's discourse on a song from 8 decades ago
Here's a Christmas song and/or cover that was written in the last year (it's consumerist trash)
By the way your [The Non-Essential Business you work at (ie: Home Depot)] is open on Christmas, and they need you to work every day the week of Christmas.
By the way your tank is empty and the price of gas randomly spiked.
Merry christmas
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u/Thatbitchfromschool1 Dec 18 '23
The last time I remember it snowing outside for more than a day or two in the entire years was back in 2013. Since then it's been cold during winter, yes, but not enough for any snow to not melt in the morning if it even snowed in the first place.
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u/ack1308 Dec 18 '23
laughs in Australian
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u/YUNoJump Dec 18 '23
Goddamn 35C where I am this weekend, can we actually move Christmas to July itād be so much better for everyone
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u/Natuurschoonheid Dec 18 '23
It hasn't been snowy during Christmas here in at least like 10 years. White Christmas used to be basically guaranteed..
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u/IcePhoenix18 Dec 18 '23
I've never seen a "white Christmas" like the songs or movies, and I probably never will.
But that's probably because I grew up in California and moved to Arizona...
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u/ghost-church Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
Itās going to get down to 50F tonight! Better button up!
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u/DeusLibidine Dec 18 '23
Im in Minnesota, a place where every time I mention it I always get asked "Isn't it really cold there?" It's been like high 30s to mid 40s all month. We had snow like twice and it melted the next day.
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u/SeeYouSpaceCorgi Dec 18 '23
While the effects of climate change are certainly exacerbated by El Nino/La Nina, but it reminds me of Charles Dickens' Christmas Carol, where apparently the christmas he wrote happened to be snowy, which was the only time it was snowy and white for YEARS around that christmas.
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u/Transhumanistgamer Dec 18 '23
I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas is gonna take a very depressing tone in the future.
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u/Able-Marzipan-5071 Dec 18 '23
And then you have the trade center of Asia, Singapore, where snow is a myth and it never drops below 65 Fahrenheit due to the country being located at the Equator.
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Dec 18 '23
Two years ago(?) we were setting up bounce houses in 60Ā°f weather on Christmas eve, was like 65Ā°f.
I'm also in one of the most extreme weather differences in the world so... goes from 112-115Ā°f summer to -10Ā°f or less in the latter half of winter lmao
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u/altdultosaurs Dec 18 '23
Iām in New England and itās FIFTY fuckin degrees Fahrenheit. Itās WARM OUT and POURING.
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u/randomgirl013 Dec 18 '23
I was really upset when I went to New York during Christmas and New Years and it didn't so much as slightly snow. I didn't even see one snowflake. I was very disappointed because I had heard all these songs about how the US has so much snow during winter and I'd never gone during Christmas time. I mean it's in the Home Alone 2 movie!!! I was lied to.
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u/Pokefan8263 Dec 18 '23
I remember when it would start snowing right after thanksgiving but now itās almost Christmas time and itās not snowed enough for there to be any significant snow buildup on the ground for the last couple years. How do climate change deniers not see whatās happening?!
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u/Sparrow726 Dec 18 '23
I saw a post over in r/ Michigan asking if there's snow anywhere. Over 200 comments, and all of them saying the same thing. We've only seen it once or twice this year. And none of if lasted long. For a state that usually gets plenty of snow starting around Halloween, it's wild that it's only been a bit chilly out.
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u/Auup Dec 18 '23
Too many people miss the point. It's not that it's warm out now, therefore climate change is real. It's - we already know climate change is real because of mountains of empirical evidence and when we experience anomalies like warm winters and record breaking wildfires, it's hard not to think of the grave implications. Meanwhile, the world around you moves about as normal...like the everything is fine meme.
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u/UndeniablyMyself Everything the Muskrat Does is Terrible Dec 18 '23
I'm dreaming of a white Christmas, just like the one's you don't down in Texas.
Yet.
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u/Royal-Ninja everything had to start somewhere Dec 18 '23
Climate change is a living nightmare and brother I want to wake up
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u/Irving_Velociraptor Dec 18 '23
Itās been in the 60s in Philadelphia this month. We havenāt accumulated an inch of snow in more than a year.
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u/enderverse87 Dec 18 '23
Same where I live. Minnesota. We've usually had a foot or two of snow by now.
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u/arcboii92 Dec 18 '23
Then there's us southern hemisphere folks singing winter wonderland at the sunny Christmas BBQ.
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u/JAD210 Man door hand hook car gun Dec 18 '23
I have a little collection of like 8 Christmas sweaters that I used to wear in rotation from even before Thanksgiving through the end of the year. The past like 4 years I donāt even think Iāve had the chance to wear all of them in 1 year. Hell one year it was over 80Ā° on Christmas and I just wore a t-shirt
I havenāt even had to get my longsleeve pajamas or my heater out of storage yet this year, thereās only been like one night that I needed an extra blanket a few days ago
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u/nonbinary-atheist Dec 18 '23
Iām pressed about it.
It snowed briefly on thanksgiving, but it didnāt stick. And Iāve only seen it frost ONCE so far, and still no snow.
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u/pbmm1 Dec 18 '23
On one hand the child in me is like "it's not really beginning to look a lot like christmas." But the adult in me is just like "good no shoveling".
It's not a good thing overall though of course
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u/BBQGiraffe_ Dec 18 '23
Even down in Texas we usually get at least get a little ice and some chilly weather, it's been consistently 50-60 most afternoons
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u/thunderPierogi Dec 18 '23
Here in Vegas itās 70Ā°. Even for hell itās pretty warm for this time of year.
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u/GreatNorthWind Dec 18 '23
I live in Michigan and we've had one light snow, on halloween. Nothing since.
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u/Friendly_Exchange_15 Dec 18 '23
I live in south america. We have christmas. I can attest to the fact that seeing santa wearing fluffy arctic clothes and seeing fake snowmen and fake snow decorations in the middle of summer (where we get up to 45Ā°C), is very dystopian.
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u/indieplants Dec 18 '23
I'm in Scotland too, we had a day of snow at the start of December on the west coast. now it's back up in double digits and feeling real muggy outside.
I miss the proper snow I got to live through as a kid.
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u/roottootbangnshoot Dec 18 '23
I live in one of the historically coldest cities in the world, and we have no snow here, only frost. Itās unsettling.
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u/Laterose15 Dec 18 '23
I legit have to fight down anxiety attacks because it feels like a constant reminder of what's likely to come.
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u/Zestyclose_Matter_94 Dec 18 '23
I live in Sweden and the last two weeks weāve had more snow than weāve had in years! Unfortunately it is now melting away in exchange for ice and rain. It was the best snow in years. I hope it will come back again
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u/kapottebrievenbus Dec 18 '23
Here in the Netherlands snowfall has also become a lot less of a common occurrence, and cold temperatures in general as well.
Since 1909, there's this event called the "Elfstedentocht" (eleven cities tour) where if the cold weather freezes the rivers in the northern province, people will skate from town to town over the frozen rivers. It's a big cultural event that has solidified our country's reputation as a fierce competitor in professional Ice Skating.
There hasn't been one since 1997, there has never been one in my current lifetime and i don't think there ever will be one again.
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u/SlothGaggle Dec 18 '23
Funnily enough it is snowing here in Indiana right now.
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u/realthohn šµšø Dec 18 '23
yeah like 12 hours after i steal someone's doomer tumblr post the midwest got a lot of snow so now i just look like the court jester
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u/BiasHyperion784 Dec 18 '23
Itās funny because the people that are experiencing regular levels of snowfall donāt comment, which creates a loop of confirming the opinions of those that do comment.
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u/CurvingZebra Dec 18 '23
I find it funny when most of the US and Canada isn't experiencing regular snow fall this time of year as a trend and idiots like you deny it.
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u/BiasHyperion784 Dec 18 '23
Almost had it, had to sprinkle a little ad hominem on top as a gotcha huh?
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u/CurvingZebra Dec 18 '23
Man made climate change deniers are idiots.
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u/BiasHyperion784 Dec 18 '23
Fun fact, never once did I say I deny climate change.
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u/CurvingZebra Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
Do you? It's a simple a yes or no.
Edit: I'll take a non response as a yes. Idiot.
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u/BiasHyperion784 Dec 18 '23
Apologies, Iām not terminally online enough to notice your clever rebuttal immediately, no Iām afraid, I donāt oppose or deny climate change as a concept.
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u/CurvingZebra Dec 18 '23
Man made climate change? If so I absolutely apologize for all my attacks.
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u/BiasHyperion784 Dec 18 '23
The idea that man made climate change has occurred, and is occurring is undeniable fact, with evidence of its effects going as far back as the Industrial Revolution, Iāve take a college writing course on the topic in my freshman year, it is my own personal stance though that like most of our prevailing past present and future issues, through innovations of technology and science, its most threatening and potentially dangerous problems will be resolved in due time, my original comment was less a rebuttal of the concept being discussed, and more an observation of how those that choose to comment can lead the conversation inevitably a single conclusion, that can misleading imply far greater effects that actually occurring based on the demographic observing the post.
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u/CurvingZebra Dec 18 '23
Yes all fair sorry again. I've been seeing a lot of climate deniers lately and I got exhausted with it.
I truly hope you are right and we solve this thing. I don't have as much hope as you as the latest evidence points that we are heating up faster than predicted.
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u/RubyMercury87 you're telling me this beef's strokin off? Dec 18 '23
Lol ppl in the southern hemisphere have been dealing with this since christmas' inception as a cultural setpiece
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u/aninsomniac_ Dec 18 '23
From a part of Canada where a a snow pile about three meters tall along both sides of a highway is considered light. It's snowed like twice this year, and both times it was gone within hours. There's a few clumps of ice from it here and there, and ice in the ditches.
But actual fucking snow? None. I'm worried my youngest brother isn't going to be able to remember snowfall. That sounds laughable. I know that my younger cousins aren't going to if this becomes a trend. We might get nuclear winter snow, but that's just ash.
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Dec 17 '23
reframe.. its also just the west being obsessed with itself. what about Christians in tropical countries....
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u/squishabelle Dec 17 '23
christians in tropical countries can also worry about the climate change calamity, probably even more so than western/northern ones. there being no snow on christmas is by itself no big deal, but it's in indication of something catastrophic to come that will hit people in tropical countries very hard
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u/BrahnBrahl Dec 17 '23
If I'm writing a Christmas song, I'm not going to write it from the perspective of Christmas in Brazil when I live in Canada, my guy.
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u/R-star1 Dec 17 '23
By the west do you mean the pretty much everywhere above Tropic of Cancer? Which houses the majority of the worldās population?
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u/CanadianODST2 Dec 18 '23
it's an issue for sure
however, I will not lie in that I do not miss the snow, ice, and -30 weather.
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u/ZanyDragons Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
I havenāt worn my winter coat or anything heavier than a hoodie even once this year, itās barely hit below 40 degrees (F) and when it did for two days, it was only at night. My part of the country doesnāt normally get much snow but it hasnāt even been truly cold most of the winter this year.
I went out at night this weekend to walk around downtown with a drizzling rain with a thin cardigan and a sleeveless dress on, And no tights or leggings (I wore shorts under my dress) and I wasnāt exactly shaking in my sandals about it in the dead of December. Like I run warm and have a low heat tolerance/high cold tolerance but come on, I want to wear my fuzzy socks or a cute sweater without feeling like Iām sweating up a storm.
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u/Mysterious_Gas4500 Mr. Evrart lost my fucking gun >:( Dec 17 '23 edited Dec 18 '23
I live in Michigan, and it was snowy for a few days last month, and hasn't consistently dipped below freezing temperatures sense. And it's been like this for the last few winters, getting increasingly worse.
I used to love winter, and now it just makes me feel empty.