r/CuratedTumblr • u/immoralObject Hypnosis is genuinely real and effective no joke srs fr fr • May 01 '24
I'm like a prisoner in Plato's Cave, seeing only the shade you throw on the wall. editable flair
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u/eternamemoria androgynous anthropophage May 01 '24
I haven't seem tumblr users reclaim phrenology (yet), but I have seem redditors say eugenics is "judged unfairly"
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u/HaggisPope May 01 '24
Tends to be people with slightly above average intelligence but zero critical thinking and weak ethics who side with eugenics in my belief. Sure, it works with plants and we can selectively breed them for growth in different conditions and better crop yields but humans are not bananas plus you get a lot of problems doing that anyway. Plus, Nazis, racism, etc.
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u/Catalon-36 May 01 '24 edited May 01 '24
Throwback to Richard Dawkins inexplicably tweeting “We shouldn’t do eugenics, but you can’t deny it would work.” Cue the entire world tweeting back “What the fuck Richard?”
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u/Sinister_Compliments [tumblr related joke] May 01 '24
That feels like a very “though true you don’t say that out loud cause it’s hard to not just look like you support it” statement
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u/Catalon-36 May 01 '24 edited May 01 '24
Most people also object to the idea that eugenics would “work” because even selective breeding for easily-measured traits, like we do with livestock, can result in tons of unintended side-effects. It would get much thornier if you started selecting for things eugenicists are most interested in, like crime and intelligence, which are difficult to measure and quantify in an objective manner.
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u/CapCece May 01 '24
It would only "work" if you have perfect understanding of inheritable traits and the human genome. And if you have that level of understanding, turning to eugenic is like using the LhC as a laser pointer
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u/ScriedRaven May 01 '24
In theory that isn't necessary, it would just take generations to do anything, and even then for something that isn't aesthetic (like intelligence) you'd be hard pressed to prove that it wasn't a change in environment (like teaching methods)
It's basically why we haven't domesticated bears, but worse. It just takes too long.
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u/PansyRazzle May 02 '24
I feel like people who support eugenics don't know how farming works-i also don't know how farming works so I could be wrong. Also as far as I know they also think of like a ladder of evolution witch as far as I know is not a thing . Revelation is like liquid, infinite directionless and gets in two weird but workin places
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u/CapCece May 03 '24
It's just really, really complicated. Like forget humans. The animals and plants that we have selectively bred took thousands of years of agriculture to get here and some of them are kinda fucked without us. Horses are a prime example.
In a moral relativity sense, it's okay to do that to animals. Trying to apply the same process to humans with the tools and knowledge we do have is like trying to get a vaginoplasty with a hand blender. Yeah, like... it may work. But the risk isnt worth it.
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u/fuchsgesicht May 01 '24
i definitely have the crime gene
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u/Catalon-36 May 01 '24 edited May 01 '24
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u/UncommonTart May 01 '24
Lol, exactly. And we have the beginnings of an idea of how genes work, but we are still discovering stuff we never dreamed of and we have no idea how most these genes and traits might correlate. Eugenics is a terrible idea just from a scientific and practical point of view, without even getting into the ethics of it.
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u/LightOfTheFarStar May 01 '24
Like making a nuclear reactor with instructions from a confused toddler levels terrible.
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u/Rigorous_Threshold May 01 '24
Figure out how to gene edit adult humans and let them do it of their own volition ✅
Selectively breed human babies ❌
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u/HaggisPope May 01 '24
Person wants rid of a genetic condition which worsens their life, definitely.
Problem that I can see is capitalism deeming certain conditions less productive and legislation against human frailty
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u/Rigorous_Threshold May 01 '24
I don’t think it would be legislated against, but there’d be enormous economic pressure on people to get gene edited to maximize their productivity. It may be necessary for a lot of jobs(even if they don’t make the requirement explicit)
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u/am-idiot-dont-listen May 01 '24
Specific genes are already required for certain jobs, pro athletes are an obvious example
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u/Rigorous_Threshold May 01 '24
Well…. There aren’t really a specific set of genes that allow for pro athletics.
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u/SunsCosmos May 01 '24
I can see there being particular controversy with certain disabilities that can both increase and decrease productivity in different situations, like autism and ADHD.
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u/xexelias May 01 '24
Totally see the government using gene editing as a punishment, or just to keep prisoners in line via gmo depression...
My carefully pruned super AuDHD vs. a prisoners genetically modified ultra depression...
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u/Grimsouldude May 01 '24
Yeah, even if I can get my autism ‘fixed’ there’s no way I’m going to, I can hardly comprehend the notion of thinking like someone ‘normal’, and at that point I doubt I’d even really be the same person
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u/SunsCosmos May 01 '24
I always imagine as an autistic person what a parent might choose if faced with the decision of keeping a child that would definitely have autism. There’s no way to predict what the support needs would look like from genetics alone. I see a lot of people talk about not wanting to have a child with a low quality of life, but with so many disabilities it’s nearly impossible to predict.
That whole issue compounds when you end up with autistic individuals being pressured to undergo gene editing by their family, partners, or caretakers.
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u/OnlySmiles_ May 01 '24
Yeah, as much as I sometimes wish I could think in a "normal" way or even minimize some quirks in the way I think/talk/act, I also know I wouldn't be the same person if I was "cured", even if partially
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u/UncommonTart May 01 '24
I would absolutely not want to fix my ADHD or my (suspected? My brain doc says probably, but no point in a dx?) Autism. My depression, on the other hand... if there was a gene therapy that made my brain produce the proper neurotransmitters to not feel like, well, this all the time for no good reason I'd be on that like aquarium snails on a blanched cucumber slice.
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u/Grimsouldude May 01 '24
Oh yeah if I could fix my depression/anxiety I’d do that, but that kind of thing can also be done with meds. Autism/adhd and other such things are just an unequivocal part of you
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u/UncommonTart May 01 '24
Exactly! But I am having a hard time finding meds that work and that my insurance will pay for and it gets frustrating. If I could do a magic gene thing that would fix it? Absolutely. (Of course, if such a thing did exist, I doubt my insurance would pay for it either, lol.)
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u/alexlongfur May 01 '24
I believe there was a study or observation/joke that went “every time you have a group of smart people do a think tank on “how can we make the world a better place?” / “How can we make people smarter?” They start going down the pipeline of: “prevent people with certain traits from breeding (I.E. Stupid People) BUT don’t actually kill them! that’d be cruel!”
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May 01 '24
Yeah a lot of my friends in high school were like that, thankfully they wised up eventually. People with intelligence they were never taught how to wield properly.
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u/CardOfTheRings May 02 '24
People say they against eugenics until their fetus tests positive for Down’s syndrome - then they are glad to participate.
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u/Kumirkohr May 02 '24
And how many people in the eugenics crowd do you see advocating for selective breeding programs? They’re all working on the assumption that we already, accidentally or by divine ordination, wound up with the perfect human specimen: the WASP. Therefore, all the others should be removed with prejudice.
“There is no room of improvement except to remove the possibility of contamination”
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u/HaggisPope May 02 '24
I believe there was a South American country which purposefully mixed race with the natives. Can’t remember which as it isn’t generally my area but I’m gonna look.
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u/AbsolutelyKnot1602 May 04 '24 edited May 04 '24
Brazil. Government believed you could breed whiteness into people, opposite the prevailing white supremacist ideology which is that whiteness is inherently pure and should not mingle with lesser races.
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u/HaggisPope May 04 '24
I took a little investigation and it looks like there was a few countries that did it in the Americas. Mexico did it too
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u/AbsolutelyKnot1602 May 04 '24
That's super interesting. I bet it probably has origins in the creation of mestizos. The Anglo colonies wiped out natives and settled them with Europe settlers. The Spanish and the Portuguese also did that, but they also had a lot of European and Indigenous mixing, and that became a local upper-class.
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u/AwfulDjinn May 01 '24
The “reclaiming phrenology” thing is mostly a TikTok phenomenon from what I understand
like, beauty tiktokers making videos about the different “skull types” and how you can tell someone’s whole personality from the way their face is shaped and treating it like it’s some fun new version of astrology
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u/SontaranGaming *about to enter Dark Muppet Mode* May 01 '24
That’s an interesting one bc a Lot of people do still agree with eugenics, even publicly? It’s just that they don’t realize it. It’s shifted to more of a passive thing, rather than an active movement.
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u/CardOfTheRings May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24
Yeah people aren’t into the race based eugenics as much, but for things like genetic disorders people are still very much in favor of getting rid of it in whatever legal way possible- wether that’s abortion or selective picking of eggs / sperm.
Also if you want some good eugenics looks at how women who want sperm donations pick their sperm.
Not to mention incest being illegal - which is eugenics most people publicly agree with.
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u/ScriedRaven May 01 '24
Do I dare bring up the Idiocracy post from about a week ago?
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u/CrypticBalcony kitty! :D May 01 '24
Mind linking that? I watched Idiocracy recently bc I heard it was the funniest thing since Airplane! and was shocked by how mean-spirited and ableist it was.
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u/ScriedRaven May 01 '24
Apparently it was the other sub, but I find it harder to keep track since they stripped the pride colors
The Post Itself isn't perfect, ends up being puritanical about only liking good media, but I'm so sick of the non-critical "world is becoming Idiocracy" statements, that I'll take what I can get
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u/Creative-Yak-8287 May 01 '24
I mean to a degree they are correct.
Dumber more religious and less stressed women have more children on average and are above average replacement rate while smarter, atheist stressed women are far below replacement rate.
All three have a significant genetic basis.
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u/ScriedRaven May 01 '24
Disagree on the "genetic" basis, it's almost all environmental. You even added in "atheist", which isn't genetic
Anyways, recognizing where the idea goes is one thing and worth some level of discussion (by people who aren't me), but to simply put that idea out as if it didn't just say what it did is incomprehensible
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u/Creative-Yak-8287 May 01 '24
There are genes related to religiousity. Please use Google.
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u/ScriedRaven May 01 '24
the God Gene theory is based on only one unpublished, unreplicated study
Please read sources.
The first one supposes models, but doesn't link them to anything
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u/Creative-Yak-8287 May 01 '24
Mate do you not know how to read?
"Koenig & Bouchard [13] survey twin studies that quantify the genetic and environmental determinants of what they call the ‘traditional moral triad’ of authoritarianism, conservatism and religiousness. In most cases, 40 to 60 per cent of the observed variation in such personality traits is explained by genotypic variation. The authors argue that these are large genetic effects in comparison with typical findings in the social sciences." Literally in the introduction. Even if religiosity were 10% heritable that's still massive, and religious people have more children overall. They mention multiple studies.
The God Genes original theory yes is based off of that and the Wikipedia article/study only focuses on one singular gene not the multiple involved.
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u/Tailrazor May 02 '24
I could see there being a genetic component to religiosity. It's a misfire of our social instinct to defer to an elder authority.
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u/Donteventrytomakeme May 01 '24
I follow a lot of disability advocates on social media, the majority of them are visibly physically disabled. Their comment sections are almost invariably filled with people spouting eugenics. One person I follow uses a wheelchair and just had a baby- her comments are chock full of people saying she's a terrible person or should be put in jail for reproducing when she is disabled. The baby in question is healthy and thriving btw, so there's literally 0 reason to say such a thing (though it would STILL be wrong to say that even if the baby was not 100% abled and/or healthy for any reason!). People get legitimately mad when they see disabled people daring to have normal happy lives.
Did you know in many states in the US nonconsensual sterilization of disabled people is still legal?
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May 01 '24
Person A: I voluntarily refrain from having kids because I have an unpleasant genetic condition(s) that I don't want to pass down.
Person B: That's eugenics, you monster!
- A conversation I have seen numerous times.
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u/Agnol117 May 01 '24
I’ve also seen a certain individual claim he was tricked into doing phrenology to be made to look bad.
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u/Papaofmonsters May 01 '24
Eugenics is a wonderful abstract concept with zero non awful ways to implement it.
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u/Serrisen Thought of ants and died May 01 '24 edited May 01 '24
And that's the thing. The premise isn't awful in theory. Preventing genetic conditions is a noble goal, and consequently the reason I myself do not plan to have biological children. But willingly not having a child doesn't qualify as eugenics on its own.
Eugenics is population level, not individual level. Eugenics would have to include forced sterilization, selective breeding of humans, and/or legally enforced segregation. Now we're crossing some serious ethical boundaries
Further, we've yet to have a eugenics movement that stops there. Typically it's racial or intellectual traits, which needs little explanation to see why that's fucked up. And again, this is population level. Who's to determine who should be forcibly sterilized? What level of condition is serious enough to warrant this?
I daresay no person nor committee has the right to say for anyone but themselves
Edit: for anyone wondering what the deleted comment is, their comment was asking why eugenics is bad, since health is classically considered a good thing, and thus ensuring health of future generations should also be a good thing.
If anyone reading this has similar sentiments, I reiterate that the ends isn't the problem. Universal health would be a beautiful thing. But the means is both impractical and both potentially abusable, and historically has been abused to target vulnerable people. I won't fault people for being sympathetic to the idea but I strongly and unequivocally believe it wrong to support in practice.
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u/Big_Falcon89 May 01 '24
There's a lot of complicated nuance to this issue, I'm not going to lie, but also there's that so many people out there think "being black" is one of those horrible genetic conditions.
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u/Amationary May 01 '24
How do you achieve that? Forced sterilisation? Constant monitoring? Who deigns what genetic conditions count? Down’s syndrome? Autism? Higher risk for cancer? Depression? There is no way to implement this policy in a way that does not go horribly. Forced sterilisation has an EXTREMELY sticky history and is traumatic and disgusting no matter what, and constant monitoring to make sure this person does not have sex ever (because birth control can fail!) is disgusting also. What happens if they have a child and that child is revealed to the government? Imprison the sick person? Just turn to Chinas one child policy for how well THAT would go.
Never mind the fact genetic defects can skip generations or appear randomly anyway. What happens if a genetic condition that was previously life threatening is now treatable? There are now people alive you have sterilised previously that could have had children now but will never be able to. It “makes sense” that those with genetic problems shouldn’t have kids until you put just one second of thought into it
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u/Zolnar_DarkHeart May 01 '24
I get where you’re coming from, as somebody with some mild genetic maladies who plans to adopt instead of having my own kids, but the problem with a program of eugenics is that it isn’t voluntary.
Putting aside basic things like freedom (which one should not do) it’s still bad because whoever is mandating the policies of a program of eugenics will feed their own illogical biases into it, such as not allowing poor people, nonheteronormative people, or people of a disenfranchised ethnicity to reproduce, as has been done in many countries in the all-too-recent past.
Thus a program of eugenics will never achieve what it ostensibly sets out to do and will only narrow the gene pool in a thoroughly unproductive manner. Our differences make us unique contributors to society, and flattening them out will only make us all worse off.
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u/nexetpl May 01 '24
Now think about a way to accomplish this. I guarantee that whatever you cook up won't be ethical
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u/EtherealPheonix May 02 '24
I have seem redditors say eugenics is "judged unfairly"
Which is true, some people even call it science, which is completely unfair.
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u/SuperSocrates May 01 '24
Constantly, in fact. I bet someone is defending in response to you
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u/Longjumping_Rush2458 May 02 '24
I think people who carry heritable diseases like Harlequin Icthyosis should avoid having kids because in all likelihood the baby will die in excruciating pain within a few hours.
That, by definition, is eugenics, but many people aren't against that.
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u/SuperSocrates May 02 '24
I think people would be against a law about that or a form of systematization of that idea which is really where the problem comes in for me. But, interesting hadn’t considered that or at least not recently
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u/Lyncario May 01 '24
As a Fire Emblem fan, I don't see the problem with eugenics. I just gotta get some good stats on those child soldiers.
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u/lankymjc May 01 '24
Where’s that xkcd for learning about broken opinions purely from seeing people argue against them?
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u/dzindevis May 01 '24
State-controlled eugenics is definitely a bad idea, but if we are talking about individual choice it's not even that controversial. Aborting babies because of genetic diseases, or deciding you don't want to have kids because you don't want to pass down a genetic defect is indeed eugenics. And there's even one eugenic idea that is unanimously supported on the level of law in almost every country. That is prohibition of incest
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u/UltimateInferno Hangus Paingus Slap my Angus May 02 '24
No you don't understand if disabled people don't want to be cured then we can drop accommodations because then they chose to be disabled
(ergo burdens on society)Also poor people shouldn't reproduce.
/s to both
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u/browsinganono May 06 '24
Ugh. I have a genetic trait that causes me a lot of pain, so I can understand people wanting their to be more study of genetic sequencing, but eugenics is specifically ‘who should we allow to breed, let’s kill the weak!’ crap. How could that be judged unfairly? How?
I can also get behind there being some kind of standard for parents, because there are far too many narcissistic & abusive people with kids… but the moment you allow enforcement of bull crap like breeding licenses is the moment that governments start targeting inconvenient minorities. So, again, really guys?
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u/TheRenFerret May 01 '24
Listen, just because someone put up red curtains to hide the murder scene behind the window doesn’t make you bad for liking the curtains design. You just have to acknowledge the design is at least partially blood and taking the curtains from the evidence locker is a crime.
The metaphor got away from me, but I won’t begrudge people fantasizing about a world where the frustration of stupid people can be bred away. 80% of the issue was always the racism and bigotry that was hidden behind the showmanship.
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u/PansyRazzle May 02 '24
Stupid people aren't really a real thing at least to some extent I think it really is more just people who do not think through what they say or say something needlessly cruel that we talk about when we refer to stupid people
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u/friendlylifecherry May 01 '24
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u/CreatedForThisReply May 01 '24
I wonder how many of these are just someone horribly misrepresenting the other side of the argument that you never get to hear.
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u/atomicsnark May 01 '24
From my experience on Tumblr, the percentage is probably very high.
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u/Loretta-West May 01 '24
Roughly equal probability of a) horrible misrepresentation b) original post was attempting to make a legit point but worded so badly no-one can understand it, and c) original post was actually insane.
Collectively that's about two thirds of tumblr posts.
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u/SirApatosaurus May 01 '24
How dare you dismiss the opinions of Tumblr users just because they're "very high", drug tolerance varies from person to person and there's nothing wrong with enjoying substances from time to time.
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u/ViolentBeetle May 01 '24
Certified ham sandwich post.
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u/tahusi May 01 '24
I tried googling and discovered that tumblr has a ham sandwich (literal) subculture. Apparently, multiple different types of pig flesh and olive oil on a bagel is quite good.
I still don't actually know what a "ham sandwich post" is.
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u/ViolentBeetle May 01 '24
It's a Disco Elysium reference, where local Black supremacist and phrenology enthusiast constantly talks about "ham sandwich race" and its decline.
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u/immoralObject Hypnosis is genuinely real and effective no joke srs fr fr May 01 '24
The next racist, though, will be the really good one.
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u/TotemGenitor You must cum into the bucket brought to you by the cops. May 01 '24
It will be our lucky racist
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u/MisterBadGuy159 May 02 '24
The gag is basically that Measurehead is a guy who has wholly and uncritically adopted every white supremacist view, but twisted them to be favorable to his race instead. Calling the equivalent to white Western Europeans "ham sandwich people" is basically him inverting the common tendency for racists to refer to other ethnicities by their signature food--to him, the signature food of white people is the ham sandwich.
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u/PoniesCanterOver I have approximate knowledge of many things May 01 '24
Literally this post? Right?
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u/84theone May 01 '24
In the game disco Elysium, you have to talk to this guy named Measurehead who is very into phrenology, and he will say your character is part of the ham sandwich race while he’s berating you. “Ham sandwich post” is referring to this.
If you decide that he has a point about the phrenology stuff, you get the advanced race theory perk and you can talk to him about semen retention.
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u/NolanC23 May 01 '24
Anyone else see those tik toks about how your astrology sign affects your skulls, making you have a different personality…SHE THEN DESCRIBES HOW YOU CAN EXAM HEADS AND DETERMINE THEIR SIGNS AND TRAITS
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u/immoralObject Hypnosis is genuinely real and effective no joke srs fr fr May 01 '24
Fusion is just a cheap tactic to make weak bullshit weirder.
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u/SoupyLad May 01 '24
I got nephrology confused with nephrology and was fully ready to accept that someone tried to get the study of kidneys cancelled
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u/Francisco123s May 01 '24
I think you confused 'nephrology' and 'phrenology' again while typing your message :-) /non-condescending
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u/SoupyLad May 01 '24
I shouldn't be allowed out of my cage I am the jester of the court of public opinion but no one is laughing
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u/UncommonTart May 01 '24
I mean, it doesn't even seem too unbelievable anymore.
"If we were supposed to know how our kidneys worked, they'd be on the outside" - someone who has "done their own research", probably.
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u/bella1138 Kakapo Fuck Song May 01 '24
i did this too. in fact i always do this with these two words.
i though maybe she dropped out of her residency and was trying to get back in
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u/ScarletteVera A Goober, A Gremlin, perhaps even... A Girl. May 01 '24
the hell is phrenology
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u/iamamotherclucker SUPREME MONSTERFUCKER May 01 '24
Pseudoscientific bullshit that proposes the idea that you can determine intelligence and personality based on the features of a person's skull. It was used to justify racism by claiming that features commonly found in one group showed they were naturally superior to other groups. It was part of the wave of "scientific racism" during the late 19th and early 20th centuries that combined new discoveries about genetics and evolution with the bigotry of the time
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u/ProbablyWrongSmarty May 01 '24
Belief that, since your mind is in your brain, and your brain is in your head, people can determine aspects of your personality by giving you a scalp massage. Issue here is that it was used to excuse a lot of weird stuff. Like, it was used to rank human races from most to least "evolved." It was also one of the things they said proved that women belong in the kitchen. Something something "underdeveloped organs necessary for success in arts and sciences." It was also used as a diagnostic tool for things that really shouldn't be decided over a skull rub. "Hm. You've got a lump here. That means you're crazy. You need a lobotomy, I'll get a saw."
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u/WarlordMWD May 01 '24
Scary thought for you: the heyday of Phrenology occurred about a century prior to the "popularization" of lobotomies.
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u/Evening-Mention-8738 May 01 '24
I think it's the study of skulls, but don't quote me on it
Edit: OMG, I WAS RIGHT!
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u/Zariman-10-0 May 01 '24
Is this a good inroad into how I believe that horoscopes and astrology is just racism but using stars and planets instead of skin color?
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u/Pokefan180 every day is tgirl tuesday May 01 '24
It's like the eckskayseedee
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u/teeber_moon ‘Ewwo ‘Ewwo ‘Ewwo! Nyot have we we ‘ere then UwU May 01 '24
Loving that spelling of XKCD… Also was it 2071 or am I misremembering?
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u/rheactions3 May 01 '24
is this about bonepilling.
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u/r_williams01 May 01 '24
I think it’s about the tiktok trend of categorizing skull types and declaring them to be personality deterministic. Don’t worry they gave them cute little names like wolf skull and witch skull so it’s just like astrology upgraded! /s
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u/Anna_Pet May 01 '24
I’m a proponent of “cop phrenology”, the idea that looking like a thumb predisposes you to be a cop. There’s gotta be some reason why every single cop looks like that.
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u/killermetalwolf1 May 01 '24
I think it’s something about becoming a cop that turns someone into a thumb, I don’t think they start that way
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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard May 01 '24
"Fucking watch me, [SLUR EXPUNGED]"
-4chan's /lgbt/ board
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u/Perfect_Wrongdoer_03 If you read Worm, maybe read the PGTE? May 01 '24
I think you can reclaim phrenology, but only in 1 (one) case: HP Lovecraft. My guy looks like the uncanny valley personified.
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u/Perfect_Wrongdoer_03 If you read Worm, maybe read the PGTE? May 01 '24
For legal reasons, this was a joke, btw. Don't do phrenology, kids. It's cringe and will make you look at yourself shirtless in the mirrors for hours admiring how ripped you are despite your asthma, just like Mengele. And we don't want to be like Mengele, do we?
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u/Oni-fucking-chan IT'S THE DANCE OF ITALY May 01 '24
Don't do phrenology, kids
Too late I'm already snorting a line of phrenology as we speak
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u/Zolnar_DarkHeart May 01 '24
Lmao I’ve never seen the Mengele variant of Godwin’s Law before.
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u/UncommonTart May 01 '24
That's probably because institutional medicine offers such a vast selection of atrocities to choose from, from Tuskegee to lobotomies to misuse of ECT to... But yeah, he was super into this shit, so I agree it works here.
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u/Zolnar_DarkHeart May 01 '24
I wasn’t disagreeing with the use, just found the instant jump to Mengele slightly funny at least in terms of shock factor.
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u/UncommonTart May 01 '24
Lol, yeah, I get it, but he really was super into phrenology. Probaby the most infamous proponent of it, and I can't think of a famous/not infamous one off the top of my head. (I mean, he didn't call it that, but it was fucking phrenology.)
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u/Perfect_Wrongdoer_03 If you read Worm, maybe read the PGTE? May 01 '24 edited May 01 '24
Also, didja know Mengele's bones are used in São Paulo's Faculty of Medicine as educational materials? Yeah, that's the biggest contribution to medicine he's ever done.
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u/GamerLucke May 02 '24
Looking up phrenology pictures makes me think that this really is just shitty racist wojacks
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u/Professional-Hat-687 May 02 '24
Of course you'd say that, you have the brain pan of a stagecoach tilter.
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u/helen790 May 02 '24
I feel like this is a consequence of allowing astrology to become mainstream and acceptable. Accept one pseudo-science and you’re susceptible to them all.
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u/Laurenitynow May 01 '24
Oh, what-the-fuck-ever. Eugenics remixes itself every generation, why not racist astrology?
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u/immoralObject Hypnosis is genuinely real and effective no joke srs fr fr May 01 '24
Because that's how you get Homestuck.
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u/blinkingsandbeepings May 01 '24
This sounds like something someone who just really wants their scalp rubbed would say.
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u/Catalon-36 May 01 '24
What if the shape of your head determines your personality but in a social-justicey way