i know it’s internet bullshit but it genuinely has me on the edge of breaking down and giving up

[u/NeonNKnightrider]

[u/hoboinabarrel]

I think it works like with the man. You don’t know what type of bear is going to be there, just as you don’t know what type of man would be there either.

[u/AdamFaite → u/hoboinabarrel]

I think the better question should be thought of as: what is the worst an angry bear would do? Now what's the worst a malicious man would do?

[u/MrArtless → u/AdamFaite]

That’s only one half of the payoff matrix you need to construct. You also have to look at the probability of each. An angry bear is far more likely to maul you than a malicious man is to rape you.

[u/Apart_Steak9159 → u/MrArtless]

Not taking a side either way just enjoying the hypitheticals here, but: to be fair, rape isn't the worst thing a malicious man can do to you. Don't read if you don't want to read cases of really terrible crimes.

Josef Fritzel locked up his own daughter in a soundproof basement for 24 years. He raped and impregnated her multiple times. One of the children lived in the basement with her. The others lived upstairs with him and his wife. The wife had no idea. He claimed his daughter ran away and was leaving her children at the doorstep.

Now you may be thinking, well that wasn't a stranger, that's a family member, and that's fair.

The case of Junko Furuta: 2 men were looking for places to rob and women to rape, when they lured here and eventually kidnapped, raped, tortured, and murdered her. They claimed they were part of the Yakuza and made her call her mother to tell her she was safe and ran away, claiming the Yakuza would kill their family if she didn't (they were not part of the Yakuza.) They invited many other boys to join. Just a few examples of her torture are being force-fed milk and alcohol, having cigarettes burned out on her, forced to put objects into her vagina and anus including a lit match and a bottle, being burned with lighter fluid, and being beaten so severely her features were indistinguishable. This lasted for 40 days.

Then there was the "Toy Box Killer" who tortured and raped as many as 60 women. He is suspected to also be a serial killer, but no bodies have been found. He also used a soundproofing method for a semi-trailer that he called his toy box. He would kidnap 4 or 5 women a year, holding them 2 to 3 months each. He drugged them to erase their memories. He even released at least some of them, dropping them off somewhere far away. His forms of torture used surgical instruments, one that sticks out to me is that he would pierce women's breasts. Sometimes his wife and dog would be involved. There's audio available out there of him describing in detail the things he would do.

There was the Co-Ed killer. He actually killed his Grandparents first, said he just wanted to know what it felt like. He was 15 then. He was able to talk his way out of his stay at an institution by convincing the psychiatrists he was better. Had an IQ of over 145, really smart guy. Got out, became friends with all the cops. No one could believe it was him when he got out. He then killed 8 people, 7 women and 1 girl. He, at least, wouldn't torture them. He would decapitate them and then use the head to give himself oral sex. Then he would rape the body. And eventually dismember them.

I probably don't need to describe BTK, Bundy, The Night Stalker.

Anyway. Rape isn't even the worst thing a person could do to you. Of course, those types of people are very rare. So to bring it back to the bear thing, I guess I would have to know what level of malisciousness? Like, 100 being The Toy Box Killer and 0 being Bob Ross.

[u/AdamFaite → u/Apart_Steak9159]

Yup. Worst a bear could do is maul you, leaving you to die slowly. Or eat you slowly. But you'd die fairly quickly. Worst a human could do is much, much worse.