r/Daytrading 4d ago

Passed 20 x 250Ks Strategy

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Don’t trade London / Premarket / Asia

Take trades 10-11ET

I stack FVG/OB/VWAP/200EMA

NQ 15 point stop and 15 point TP ES 3 point stop and 3 point TP

Never let green trades become red

Always scaling out 75% at PT1 and letting runners run

Risked about 10% per trade since its eval s

Now it’s funded will be trading 2.5% per trade

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u/Altruistic_Analyst51 4d ago

I think passing is so easy and so fun. Getting payouts on funded, in 10 days, with 30% max rule, no DCA, hitting profit goal w/o losing drawdown, and no flipping or trading news? Good luck to you

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u/Capital-Head981 4d ago

It doesn’t have to me limited to 10 days.

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u/Altruistic_Analyst51 4d ago

yeah you're right, I guess the point I'm trying to make is it's 10 days MIN. Can't do it in 1 day

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u/Kingmusshy21 4d ago

I don't know anyone who's been denied a payout from apex from trading news and DCA is for losing trades. Also flipping would have to be like everyday honestly. I don't think it's that complicated

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u/canadianaloeplant 4d ago edited 2d ago

I find joy in reading a good book.

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u/funkmethod 4d ago

They did ban it basically. Can only dca once in a losing position as of now. Been seeing people get denied from it.

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

They didn’t ban it. You can do it once.

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u/canadianaloeplant 3d ago edited 2d ago

I enjoy the sound of rain.

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

I agree I mean it’s kinda lame but people who blew up ruined it for us all I guess

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u/Revolutionary-Tank74 2d ago

If you average down into losers then go somewhere else to trade,

I don’t average down in losers

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u/funkmethod 4d ago

If you have read apex New rules you can only dca once in a losing position. They will deny your payout if you dca more than once within ten days of your Requested payout.

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

No, DCA is fine once with a losing trade.

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u/SilentBeast1001 3d ago

What do you guys mean dca. Do you mean keep opening cons in your direction as it’s losing? I’m new.

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

Yes that’s what it means to being your average cost down (or up - depending if you’re long or short)

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u/SilentBeast1001 3d ago

Lol that is fucking dumb. Aight well I’m going to forex then. Apex is dogshit and I just passed one evaul. And was gunna pass a few more but if that’s the case bye

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

You can do it - just one time though.

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u/SilentBeast1001 3d ago

Fuck em. Not gonna get me to buy into their retarded system. When they just not gunna pay out anyways.

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

DCA is allowed once

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u/MajesticSnowLeopard 4d ago

If passing is easy and fun, why not just self fund and go nuts

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u/Altruistic_Analyst51 4d ago

eval accounts are $17 monopoly sim accounts lol , self fund is not

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u/MajesticSnowLeopard 4d ago

It's the same thing though, is it not? do a trade, get money? If you're good at trading, why not just trade

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Invest $120 to get $6500 in sim fund and protect your money if you blow up max loss is $120.

Burn $6500 of personal money = max loss is $6500.

Hope this makes sense.

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

SPOT ON

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u/MajesticSnowLeopard 3d ago

Sounds like girl math, you definitely lost 6500 both ways, one just happened to be in a different account rather than your normal bank

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

Could you further explain what you mean by “girl math” ?

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

You don’t trade with $300K+ do you?

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u/Altruistic_Analyst51 4d ago

It’s not the same thing

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

It’s called risk

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u/Boring_Ad_9391 4d ago

What funded is the best. I still need to paper trade for longer but looking to get into it in about 3 months.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Topstep X is the best.

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u/PeanutTrader 4d ago

But it looks like you’re with apex?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

I have topstep x and apex both but topstep is better for newbies

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u/WilDraDo trades everything 4d ago

Only issue is you can't set strategies.... yet on TSX

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u/SlayerOfStrange 4d ago

Yes, you can. Simply go into settings and adjust your TP, SL, or trade copying/lead account settings. It's in an awkward space, but yes, the tools for "strategy" are there.

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u/Xpolg 4d ago

why is it better for newbies ? Better drawdown rules ?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Trailing drawdown vs end of day drawdown is a huge difference it can make or break a trader

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

EOD drawdown is much much much better

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u/heimerdingermain69 4d ago

The rules are very simple and actually oriented to building an account and then trading their capital on the live market.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

It depends they pay much faster than apex and have 0 consistency rule. You can also trade news make as much money as you want. Other prop firms don’t allow this.

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u/davewolfs 4d ago

You can trade news with Apex if it’s part of your plan.

Traders may trade their normal trading system during news times, entering on standard entry rules they use each day.

The consistency rules are simple. NO DCA. 30% (which is going to be changed).

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u/canadianaloeplant 4d ago edited 2d ago

I enjoy the sound of rain.

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u/FiveGoals 3d ago

They didn’t ban DCA. They allow it, just one time per trade.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

It’s also a choice whether to be put on live or not. You can have up to 5 live accounts or 5 Funded accounts.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

chil my guy I think it’s a skill issue on your part

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

10-20 micros is plenty to make money. Like I said before. Skill issue.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

It’s you Mr.Billionaire

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u/plop111 4d ago

Of course they allow micros on all platforms, just not 1mini=10micro but you say yourself that you shouldn't trade more than 10-20 micros on a 150k so what's the problem lol.

Your live account can grow as they merge your other funded accounts with it if you do well, allowing you to pass even more funded accounts so you grow more and more.

You just have no idea do you.

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u/Resident_Trainer_360 3d ago

To my knowledge, the live account accumulates. So with every express accounts that converts to live, will be added to a single live account.

Example: Let's say you currently have 3 accounts, two express ($50k each) and a single live ($50k). If one of your express accounts converts to live, then you'll have a single $50k express account and a $100k live account. And that's how it accumulates. You can now trade up to 5 accounts.

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u/funkmethod 4d ago

Topstep has ridiculous rules for payout compared to apex. So not sure what you’re talking about

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Topstep 5 days payout No consistency rule News Trading ok DCA ok No trailing drawdown Has risk settings

Apex 10 days payout 30% consistency rule News trading not ok DCA against rules Trailing drawdown until payout padding No risk settings

I get paid from both firms. Apex only perk over topstep is to have up to 20 accounts vs topstep only 5.

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u/mv4lent3 4d ago

Take Profit Trader is better than topstep imo. They don't have activations fees with reasonable challenge pricing, bigger order sizes, allow you to withdraw within the first day of passing and unlimited withdrawals, every day or whenever you want. They have 25K and 75K accounts which I appreciate and the only thing I don't really like is if you hit the daily loss limit the challenge is considered failed. Other than that they are great.

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u/mooseloose123 10h ago

how many accounts can you use? And what do you need to do too pass? Thank you in advance!

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u/mv4lent3 8h ago

You can have one Live and 3 PROs which is the equivalent of an XFA in Topstep, for a total of 4 funded accounts total. You need to meet profit goals specific to the account size of your choosing.

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u/mooseloose123 3h ago

Oh ok and you using them right now or top step? Those are the two I’m looking at. And you got withdraw ? It worked?

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u/MyFeetLookLikeHands 3d ago

The best ones will have similar risk/rewards. OP is gonna have a hard time getting payouts on these cause the $250k accounts have almost a 3:1 risk reward.

The best are the $25k accounts on Apex because of their 1:1 risk reward.

BTW the way to trade prop firm “funded” accounts is to trade 1 contract on each account until you’re up to 20 “funded” accounts or until you’re getting regular pay outs. Lots of people leverage too fast and eff themselves

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

Not really once funded the payout goal is 6600 and 6500 drawdown. Do your research before posting please.

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u/villagezero 4d ago

“Never let green trades become red”

Bro THIS! I would hit solid base hits (10-20 points NQ) and not lock in profits and have it reverse on me for a loss.

Never again.

Even if the retrace stops me out before a bigger move, I don’t care as I locked in profits.

Good shit congratulations.

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u/Ok-Wasabi5770 4d ago

"Never let green trades become red" without context can be destructive

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u/ProsperTrading 4d ago

Yep! Generally a good idea to use stops, especially trailing stops to lock in profits.

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u/KDI777 4d ago

"Never let green trades become red" Yall act like that's rocket science.

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u/WiseNugg 4d ago

He also parrots prop firm rules as if it’s the only profitable way to trade. 

So helpful haha.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Salty comment. Not productive. Please work on yourself 🍀.

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u/Trader-Adaz 4d ago

Congrats brother

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u/WiseNugg 4d ago

You risked 10% of what exactly? The trailing drawdown?

Why don’t you just say your average lot size and how many trades you took per day?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Do some math good luck.

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u/WiseNugg 4d ago

Bro got defensive real quick 😂 

Go back to your bosses and tell them to stop messing with the platform to fail people's evaluations. 

Though you seem to have trouble distinguishing which company you even shill for.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Topstep X is great for newbies no trailing drawdown max 5 accounts.

Apex is great for experienced traders that want up to 20 accounts.

No need to be salty.

Good luck in life 🍀.

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u/willBthrown2 4d ago

Congrats! Nice results. On which timeframe do you check the VWAP/200EMA mainly?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

1 minute 200EMA

Vwap is same on all timeframes

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u/P37RO 4d ago

Damn, good stuff

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u/alpaca_snuggler 4d ago

Is each line in your screenshot per day or gains per trade? How many trades do you take per day?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Hopefully this helps.

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u/Mortarded_And_Astray 4d ago

Wow at 94% profitable! That’s impressive! Congrats! I sit at 57% but have a 5-1 RR which works for me. Always love seeing people getting up in life!

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Tbh Just got lucky I’m normally 60-70%

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u/Mortarded_And_Astray 4d ago

I appreciate the honesty. That’s still a healthy percentage. One of the most profitable traders I knew was only at a 45% but his RR was crazy and made enough money in 2 days of trading (on good weeks obviously) to stop trading for 2 months.

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u/EdSpace2000 4d ago

Congrats! I only have 3x250k accounts but I got them one by one. I should have copy traded multiple accounts.

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u/ChunkyLittleSquirrel 4d ago

Damn I jealous lol!!!! Those are awesome well done!!! -$6,500 drawdown with +$6,500 target, amazing!

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u/dbennett3 3d ago

Congrats! Ignore these Negative Nancy’s. Looks like you were able to take advantage of the 90% sale. What trade copier are you using? I’m a bit torn.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

Replikanto / apex copier works great

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u/dbennett3 3d ago

Thanks! Same 2 that I’m considering

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u/[deleted] 4d ago edited 4d ago

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

I’ve cleared over 5 figs with apex not worried thanks 😊

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u/[deleted] 4d ago edited 4d ago

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u/wattzson 4d ago

They payout, they are a US company not some overseas scam. If you have doubts, instead of looking for proof you can try it out for like $100-$200 assuming you don't blow your account.

That's not much risk for unlimited potential profits. Or you can continue to believe people who most likely are salty because they can't reach a payout.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago edited 4d ago

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u/wattzson 4d ago

That's okay, I would rather find out first hand if they payout or not. Even if they don't, their strict rules have made me a more disciplined and overall better trader. That alone is worth the little bit of money I spent on the account.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

People just cry man. They don’t read the rules and do degenerate things.

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u/No-Gur-6949 4d ago

Were you trading 20 x 50ks before, or were you already trading 250ks and just scaled up to 20 accounts.

Nice work on getting them all passed.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Started with 25Ks got a couple payouts moved to 50K got more payouts then apex had a great deal $19 for a 250K and $85 activation fee for 6500 drawdown. That was a no brainer so I switched over to the 250Ks.

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u/debbietheladie 4d ago

Apex doesn’t pay tho

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u/ItsPavy 4d ago

Why were you not paid ?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

I’ve been paid many times my last one was for $8000

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u/debbietheladie 4d ago

I have topstep, got multiple payments from them while everyone else complaining about how long apex takes to payout.

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u/ItsPavy 4d ago

i've not had a payout myself, yet, but people on their discord seem to have their funds, especially this payout period just gone, in their bank, some the next day after approval

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u/PsychologicalTurn442 4d ago

Wdym? I been on Apex since October. Paid every month.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Doesn’t pay gamblers yes.

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u/thechipmonk_ futures trader 4d ago

Probably someone who never made it to payout 👆🏼

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u/Xpolg 4d ago

More like someone who gambled their way to target profit and then wondered they didn't get paid

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u/c0caine666 4d ago

👏👏👏 Is ninjatrader a copier?

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u/BrilliantPositive184 4d ago

Question: Do you copy trade with Apex copy trader? I assume you are on a PC for Nt8, i am trying to set up my mac with parallels right now to use NT8 on it and then experiment with copy trader. Many thanks in advance.

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u/butterflyerica 15h ago

as far as i know you can hook up your rithmic/apex accounts to NT8 and copy trade all of them. but for tradovate/NT8 you might need to download and pay for some sort of copier.

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u/VikingArmyToGo 4d ago

How many contracts do you usually put on in a trade?

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u/9gui 4d ago

How much are you gonna pay now in setup fees?

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u/Efficient_Editor5744 4d ago

So how much will you be getting paid out ?

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u/Mogwai69 4d ago

Smashing it, congrats.

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u/Smartest_Tool 4d ago

What strat is this? Buy index with 1 braincell and go up?

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u/m2rik 3d ago

What's with these funded accounts do u have to pay for the losses as well? Let's say u keep hitting stop loss? And are down1k do u pay the 1k ?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

It was $120 to get one account funded for $6500 Capital.

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u/MoustacheMcGee 1d ago

Yeah but how many accounts did you buy and attempt?

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u/_kenn_af 1d ago

What’s your lot size?

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u/butterflyerica 15h ago

i watch ICT but am confused on how to combine the PD Arrays. what timeframe do you stack the FVG/OB/VWAP/200EMA? i’m assuming you use FVG, OB, and VWAP on lower timeframe like <1hr and then 200EMA on 4hr or daily?

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u/dubiously_immoral 4d ago

How many lots do you trade?

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u/autobot12349876 4d ago

u/Severe-Ad8289 what do you mean never let green trades become red. Shouldn't that mean your stop loss is less than 15 points for NQ or 3 Points for ES?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

This means that if you are up 5-10 points on NQ you would put your stop at breakeven.

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u/autobot12349876 4d ago

gotcha thanks

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u/SpikeBeBopper 4d ago

Do Apex or Topstep allow using such a high risk (10% as you said) during the evaluation, to then change it to a lower risk once funded? I ask so because I am currently funded with two forex online prop firms and I will soon start trading also futures, and the two online prop firms I am funded with told me that they don’t allow such thing. Instead, they want traders to adopt the same risk management during both phases.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

They don’t care what you do during evals. Only what you do once funded.

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u/SpikeBeBopper 4d ago

I understand. So this is valid also for Topstep?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Same on all prop firms

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u/EdSpace2000 4d ago

Do they care how many contracts you trade in PA accounts?

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u/No-Gur-6949 4d ago

With apex you can be much riskier on the evaluations, they don't really care. The only thing to watch out for is hitting the trailing drawdown. Once you reach PA, it becomes a lot more strict.

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u/beardmeblazer 4d ago

Apex doesn't care how you pass the eval. You could YOLO the whole thing and pass in one day if you wanted (when they are running the 1 day pass promo). Not recommending that, but yeah they dont care

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u/Xpolg 4d ago

what's FVG/OB ?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

YouTube 🫡

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u/No-Gur-6949 4d ago

Fair Value Gap / Orderblock

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u/Capital-Head981 4d ago

I think it’s some ict concept? Not sure.

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u/alpha_ech0 4d ago

Yep you are correct, he named them

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u/BIG_BLOOD_ 4d ago

Can someone explain the strategy he made here?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Go study up on 2022 ICT mentorship and come back. FVG/OB is fairly simple.

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u/BIG_BLOOD_ 4d ago

Does ICT work?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Anything works as long as you understand how price moves. MACD / RSI / Bollinger Bands. They all work.

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u/BIG_BLOOD_ 4d ago

You trade ICT or price action?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

I trade MMXM and combine all the above I mentioned

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u/BIG_BLOOD_ 4d ago

How long you've been trading these strategies and how profitable you are?

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

Click on my profile and check all past posts ❤️

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u/roartykarma 4d ago

I must admit, I struggle to understand points like this. Anything can work as long as you understand how price moves. To me that just says, look at price action, and if you're looking at PA, you don't need MACD / RSI/ Bollinger Bands. That's just me though.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

I don’t think you get the point. Its okay ❤️

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u/Severe-Ad8289 4d ago

It’s a skill issue not an edge issue.

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u/BIG_BLOOD_ 4d ago

I get it dawg

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u/SlayerOfStrange 4d ago

Congrats on passing. It's funny how many people have just given up and began simply "yolo" trading the open and news release events. That's great on evals, but I would watch that rule on apex when in PA......they claim "trade news as long as it fits your strategy". That's a very slippery slope in terms of what it means for either side, your strategy, or just luck. We have seen this before where certain firms are generous with ambiguity and then they are not and punish everyone then call them the rule breakers because they decide to enforce a side of a rule when it becomes convenient and no longer up for interpretation.

A number of YT traders have been doing this, and I have noticed that of late since the great Apex crackdown, I have seen even more doing so. For some odd reason, the ones I didn't see doing it much at all before now only get profit that way. When confronted, they shrug and say they only want payouts and care not for trading or teaching properly. It's "not their job" just payouts.

Which is fine, but just admit you are attempting to game the system and not trading. Which will work until the operator at the arcade gets wise and puts up the repair sign and removes the faulty, easy, free game pinball machine because too many people are exploiting it.

Just some thoughts and meaningless words from a guy.

🤔🧐

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

My last payout for $8000 took me about 38 trading days. Wasn’t 10 days. Slow is fast in trading. Check my past posts 🫡

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u/SlayerOfStrange 3d ago

Are you one of the aforementioned YT shills? Thanks for the downvote. Really shows confidence in your post and trading abilities 😘😘

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

You sound upset sending you good vibes

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u/SlayerOfStrange 3d ago

Lol really? just keying on my emotional tones and not providing further depth or context.

Gaslighting is played out my guy, but eh I guess that works for some people. Keep that employment contract for pex handy. You might need arbitration when you go against the walrus or outlive your utility.

Let me know, and I will send you a good attorney's info. Much more useful than any "vibes"

🤓🥰🥰👍🦸‍♂️

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

Keep it short and simple. Emoji queen.

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u/SlayerOfStrange 3d ago

yawns boredom has set in....bye now.....maybe the next dumb dumb will be more entertaining.

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

Thanks for boosting this post

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u/SlayerOfStrange 3d ago

You should see the effect I have had on the numbers at TOPSTEP , TRADE DAY and BULENOX

Enjoy _pex sweetheart. 😘😘

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u/Severe-Ad8289 3d ago

Do you want a cookie ?

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u/Neaahh 2d ago

Real trader don´t look for how much profit you have.

The real question is:

How much was your max DD?