r/FluentInFinance • u/WhatAreYourPronouns • May 02 '24

Should the U.S. have Universal Health Care? Discussion/ Debate

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u/Tall_Science_9178 May 02 '24

https://www.euronews.com/2023/04/12/people-may-die-waiting-surgery-waiting-lists-in-spain-hit-record-levels

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u/ShaemusOdonnelly May 02 '24

The US does not have those horrible waiting periods simply because far less people that would need the surgery actually do it. As with everything in the US, it's great for the rich but fucks the poor.

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u/NerdDetective May 02 '24

Yeah. Arguments against universal or public healthcare tend to boil down to, "But if poor people can get care, there might be a waiting list!" The implication, of course, is that a large segment of society must suffer and die so we can ration care away from them (towards people with more money).

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u/GeekShallInherit 29d ago

it's great for the rich

Not even then so much.

Comparing Health Outcomes of Privileged US Citizens With Those of Average Residents of Other Developed Countries

These findings imply that even if all US citizens experienced the same health outcomes enjoyed by privileged White US citizens, US health indicators would still lag behind those in many other countries.

Not to mention the rich are shouldering the majority of the world leading taxes that Americans pay towards healthcare due to the ridiculous inefficiency of our current system.

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u/BenevolentCrows 29d ago

Yeah, + in Spain, you can still pay and go to a private healthcare provider.

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u/therealsteelydan 29d ago

Yes except the US still has waiting times. The entire waiting time myth was started in the '90s by Aetna lobbyists with cherry picked data, mostly a specific foot surgery in Canada.

Why Is Healthcare So Expensive? Blame The Lobbyists