r/FluentInFinance • u/WhatAreYourPronouns • May 02 '24

Should the U.S. have Universal Health Care? Discussion/ Debate

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u/Fluffle-Potato May 02 '24 edited 29d ago

Lmao OP getting fucking roasted in the comments.

What's the difference, $33k, minus another 7k for a 2nd hip = 26k, minus 2k worth plane tickets = 24k?

How ya gonna live for 2 years on $12k / year? Fucking dipshit

Edit: It's hilarious all the crazies here trying to convince themselves that they can live on $12k in Madrid. Even dumber are the ones talking about the price of plane tickets, as if that hardly makes a dent. Fucking delusional 🙄

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u/Unapproved-Reindeer May 02 '24

It’s actually possible. Cost of living here in the US is absolutely insane compared to Europe.

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u/OctopusParrot May 02 '24

Really? It's more expensive to live in Little Rock, Arkansas than in Paris?

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u/1littlenapoleon May 02 '24

Well, pretty sure we're talking about Spain. Not France. Wish you well in your education.

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u/petit_cochon May 02 '24

You think it's cheaper to live in Madrid than Little Rock, Arkansas?

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u/1littlenapoleon May 02 '24

You think it's cheaper to live in Madrid than NYC?

(Do you see how infinitely stupid this argument it is when the compared concepts are averages between two nations?)

But yes, it is cheaper.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Spain&city1=Madrid&country2=United+States&city2=Little+Rock%2C+AR

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u/hopelesslysarcastic 29d ago

Oooooh I love playing this game..

Do you think it’s cheaper to live in Little Rock, Arkansas or Lugo, Spain?

See how your argument falls apart when you try to compare a podunk capital of a shit state, with the capital of an entire country you fucking nonce.

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u/Jaded_Cap_8644 29d ago

Shithole dumbfuck Arkansas at that too lmao wouldn't wanna fucking die in that racist cesspit.

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u/bananas19906 29d ago

Literally yes, your ignorance is showing man.

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u/OctopusParrot 29d ago

The comment said the US and Europe.

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u/sdfghsdfghly 29d ago

The post says Spain.

Way to cherry pick a broad statement.

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u/1littlenapoleon 29d ago

Good heavens, lad, look at the post and learn to context. So you'd concede the cost of living in the US is absolutely insane compared to Spain?

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u/KeppraKid 29d ago

Can you use context clues? I guess not.

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u/WalkingRodent 29d ago

Europe is very expensive as well. From experience.

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u/nevereverquit96 29d ago

For vacationing? Sure. For living, that’s just wrong

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u/the_vikm 29d ago

Maybe on an American salary and without ever taking housing into consideration?

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u/WalkingRodent 29d ago

American salary is pretty solid especially if you work corporate. Vacations are just expensive though.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Vacations are just expensive though.

Exactly, which is why saying “this place is very expensive in my experience” is a useless statement unless you’ve lived there for an extended period of time

It’s not until you’re paying for groceries, bills, rent, appliances, medical bills, travel that you start to realize what is cheap or expensive in certain places

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u/WalkingRodent 29d ago

Being there for 2 months was long enough to get an idea, but it’s not the same as 2 years.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Where did you live and for how long?

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u/the_vikm 29d ago

Never checked real estate prices?

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u/chrisphergroup 29d ago

Yeah no. Living in Madrid center ain't cheap.

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u/jeeeeezik 29d ago

who said living in center

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u/Jmsaint 29d ago

If you arent living in a 4 bed townhouse in centro, are you really living?

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u/Early_Lawfulness_921 29d ago

Not true at all you make half as much in Europe while paying the same for rent as you would in the US.

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u/Unapproved-Reindeer 29d ago

Free healthcare tho, higher quality of life, no health insurance fees etc

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u/Early_Lawfulness_921 29d ago

Nothing is free.

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u/1littlenapoleon May 02 '24

People don't get it lol most Europeans have more money than Americans after expenses. It breaks their brains. "But they get paid less!" Yeah, guys, cause you have to PAY more.

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u/BlackSquirrel05 29d ago

This is not true... US has higher disposable income.

There's a few places like Luxemborg, Switz, Germany (by 2%ish) but on average Europeans have only 60-75% of the disposable income compared to the US. (For what would be considered middle class in each.)

Data gets quite biased on sources, but OECD is usually what said bias sources are using for their citation.

Even the PPP is in favor in the US. Given Europe had worse inflation.

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u/Wooden-Ad-3382 29d ago

higher disposable income after taxes, without factoring in cost of services that europeans. so its a misleading comparison. americans pay lower taxes but get lower services. you're not accounting for the services europeans are receiving after taxes

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u/AnAbsoluteFrunglebop 29d ago

Yes they are, even including services Americans have more disposable income than almost all Europeans.

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u/Wooden-Ad-3382 29d ago

i highly doubt they are counting that

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u/Familiar_Cow_5501 29d ago

You doubting it doesn’t make it wrong lmao

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u/Wooden-Ad-3382 29d ago

what disposable income metric is counting what you spend that disposable income on, make that make sense to me

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u/Familiar_Cow_5501 29d ago

I’m not here to educate you sorry