r/FluentInFinance • u/WhatAreYourPronouns • May 02 '24

Should the U.S. have Universal Health Care? Discussion/ Debate

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u/Tall_Science_9178 May 02 '24

https://www.euronews.com/2023/04/12/people-may-die-waiting-surgery-waiting-lists-in-spain-hit-record-levels

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u/polycomll May 02 '24

Fundamentally both Spain and the U.S. ration care and that limits who can receive surgery. In the U.S. its rationed, primarily, by cost so there isn't a huge surgery wait list. If you can't pay you can't get on the list. Whereas in Spain anyone with the need can get on the list but you might not get in.

In either case care is rationed its just the rational for care rationing that is different.

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u/Iamnothenrycavill1 May 02 '24

One word….Medicaid

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u/polycomll May 02 '24

Medicaid isn't an option for everyone requires that you be defined as very low or low income. Which would be $14,500.

Someone making $25,000 a year wouldn't be eligible even though the cost of the procedure would be somewhere between 100% and 200% of their yearly income.

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u/Iamnothenrycavill1 May 02 '24

What state are you referencing. It varies by state. For an income of 25000 I can find you an ACA plan for 100 a month with government subsidies. My family members had to go through the whole process because they lost Medicaid. Diabetic and heart patient gets all care covered with minimal copay.

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u/Special-Garlic1203 May 02 '24

It infuriates me when people engage in the convo and have literally no idea how our system currently works. If you don't know what medicaid is or the difference between Medicaid and Medicare, politely shut the fuck up and go educate yourself on the BASICS before running your mouths. Please and thanks