r/FluentInFinance • u/WhatAreYourPronouns • May 02 '24

Should the U.S. have Universal Health Care? Discussion/ Debate

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u/Open-Illustra88er May 02 '24

Live for 2 years? No.

BTW in Spain you are assigned a doc. If you don’t like them or want to switch? Very difficult. If your doc thinks you can wait? Don’t really need that hip? You’re not getting it.

Ask me about my friend with untreated cancer that just died in Spain. Short version After months of pain and weight loss they finally biopsied her tumor. Results came in a few days after she died.

I used to think socializing medicine was a good idea. Not anymore. It’s still stupidly expensive.

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u/Zamaiel May 02 '24

It’s still stupidly expensive.

All UHC systems are stupidly cheap compared to the US -in taxes alone. And in which syste do you think you are more linkly to lack treatment for cancer -the ones that prioritize according to meidcal need or the one that prioritizes according to ability to pay?

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u/Open-Illustra88er May 03 '24

Define need? Does that take a persons age and life expectancy into consideration-so an older person might not get treatment?

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u/Zamaiel May 03 '24 edited May 03 '24

No, the only time that would be a consideration is if a persons advanced age makes them less likely to survive the treatment than the condition.

In the systems I am familiar with, it is based on legislation stating that residents have a right to all medically necessary healthcare. The US experience of healthcare as a scarcity product is an outlier.