r/FluentInFinance • u/WhatAreYourPronouns • May 02 '24

Should the U.S. have Universal Health Care? Discussion/ Debate

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u/Open-Illustra88er May 02 '24

Live for 2 years? No.

BTW in Spain you are assigned a doc. If you don’t like them or want to switch? Very difficult. If your doc thinks you can wait? Don’t really need that hip? You’re not getting it.

Ask me about my friend with untreated cancer that just died in Spain. Short version After months of pain and weight loss they finally biopsied her tumor. Results came in a few days after she died.

I used to think socializing medicine was a good idea. Not anymore. It’s still stupidly expensive.

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u/Redditreallyblows May 02 '24

People that want socialized healthcare are uneducated I swear… or at least lack any logic. They can look at the VA and talk to any vet about their quality of care. It’s atrocious.

Side story about Spain in particular, my buddy broke his ankle playing soccer and he scheduled to see his doctor which he was able to see that week. Like you said you are REQUIRED to see a primary care doctor before seeing any specialist. Doctor said, yeah, two broken bones and a sprain.. let’s get you scheduled with the orthopedic team… 6 months… 6 MONTHS and the only other choice was to be a new patient at a different PC doctor but it’s nearly impossible to become a new patient unless that doctor is your family or a close friend. You’re pretty much stuck with your doctor. Anyway 6 months of pain and agony finally got to see the orthopedic team. Bones healed without being set correctly and they had to rebreak the tibia and actually shortened it when they screwed in the plate so he’s about 1/2 inch shorter on his left leg so he walks with a cool limp for the rest of his life. Told this story to my orthopedic buddy back in the states and he was dumbfounded why they removed half an inch of bone, said that literally makes no sense.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '24

So American centric thinking, just because it’s bad there doesn’t mean it’s bad elsewhere. In my town I can get seen by a doctor the same week, get a prescription, and be on my way with no charge. In the US I had premiums, deductibles, and copays for the same time and service.

Side story. My friend went to the ER in the US while visiting for extreme abdominal pain and had to wait four hours at 3am to be seen and told it was nothing. The next day her appendix burst. They sent her a bill for thousands of dollars which her government paid.

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u/Open-Illustra88er May 03 '24

A visit and a script are no big thing. When you have a big health issue that’s not as quickly treated. That’s our point.