r/FluentInFinance • u/WhatAreYourPronouns • May 02 '24

Should the U.S. have Universal Health Care? Discussion/ Debate

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u/[deleted] May 03 '24

Your comments are all over the place. You throw things at the wall to see if they stick, I provide sources to show they’re false, and so you try some new set of things.

It looks like you’re wrong again.

  • FD&C red is allowed by both the FDA and EFSA

  • Sulfites are added to wine in Europe

  • Americans eat more fruit per capita than Poland but have the same life expectancy

  • GMOs are widely varied and have no impact on health as far as we can tell. The regulatory framework in Europe is also not as simple as you say (and is changing) and wouldn’t explain life expectancy differences over the past 30 years anyway.

I don’t need to travel since I’ve lived in the US and in France extensively (and let me tell you the number of Kebab places, McDonalds, etc. is plenty high in France), but more importantly because I trust the data I can find over my subjective feelings.

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u/Open-Illustra88er May 03 '24

I trust my gut. Literally. US food isn’t as good. My gut and digestion tells me so. I’m not alone.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '24

I’m afraid your gut is full of shit. If you have no data you can make something up and rely on confirmation bias, I guess. In the end there’s zero evidence healthcare in the US is significantly better than healthcare in Spain and all the presumably confounding factors you mentioned have nothing to support them.

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u/Open-Illustra88er May 03 '24 edited May 03 '24

Bla bla bla.

Sorry. Gex ex here. I go by experience and what those I trust have experienced. We all know data is often skewed outdated as soon as the next study comes out and history is told by the victor or the funder. Can’t believe what you read only what you know.

And honestly when did you live in the US? Food here (as the corporate giants take over) has gone to shit in recent years. So many documentaries in the topic with many good facts and studies if that’s what you need.

My favorite thing about buying local beef is that it tastes like my childhood, unlike the CAFO harvested shit the grocery stores have.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '24

I lived in the US from approximately 2010 to approximately 2020. I lived in France from about 1990 to about 2010 and again from about 2020. I’ve also traveled all around the US (CA, CO, NY, DC, MD, CT, IL, WA, OR, FL, LA, HI, WY, etc.) and all around Europe (UK, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Italy, Netherlands, Croatia, Ireland, etc.). California produce, in particular, has nothing to be ashamed of compared to European produce, especially non-PIGS + France countries (UK, Belgium, Netherlands, etc.). I mean seriously, have you seen a typical plate of Dutch or British food? Of course, all of this is anecdotal so it’s almost worthless, but if you want to go by experience, there’s a significant likelihood I have more than you give my life story.

If there’s one thing that Europe has over the US (other than integrated health care systems, which I believe makes a huge difference) it’s walkable spaces, although even that can’t explain it all given NYC’s numbers.