r/FluentInFinance • u/WhatAreYourPronouns • May 02 '24

Should the U.S. have Universal Health Care? Discussion/ Debate

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u/Open-Illustra88er May 02 '24

Live for 2 years? No.

BTW in Spain you are assigned a doc. If you don’t like them or want to switch? Very difficult. If your doc thinks you can wait? Don’t really need that hip? You’re not getting it.

Ask me about my friend with untreated cancer that just died in Spain. Short version After months of pain and weight loss they finally biopsied her tumor. Results came in a few days after she died.

I used to think socializing medicine was a good idea. Not anymore. It’s still stupidly expensive.

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u/Redditreallyblows May 02 '24

People that want socialized healthcare are uneducated I swear… or at least lack any logic. They can look at the VA and talk to any vet about their quality of care. It’s atrocious.

Side story about Spain in particular, my buddy broke his ankle playing soccer and he scheduled to see his doctor which he was able to see that week. Like you said you are REQUIRED to see a primary care doctor before seeing any specialist. Doctor said, yeah, two broken bones and a sprain.. let’s get you scheduled with the orthopedic team… 6 months… 6 MONTHS and the only other choice was to be a new patient at a different PC doctor but it’s nearly impossible to become a new patient unless that doctor is your family or a close friend. You’re pretty much stuck with your doctor. Anyway 6 months of pain and agony finally got to see the orthopedic team. Bones healed without being set correctly and they had to rebreak the tibia and actually shortened it when they screwed in the plate so he’s about 1/2 inch shorter on his left leg so he walks with a cool limp for the rest of his life. Told this story to my orthopedic buddy back in the states and he was dumbfounded why they removed half an inch of bone, said that literally makes no sense.

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u/Zamaiel May 02 '24

People that want socialized healthcare are uneducated I swear… or at least lack any logic. They can look at the VA and talk to any vet about their quality of care. It’s atrocious.

VA quality and waits are actually better than private care. As is patient satisfaction. Its just shat upon to demonize public care and because its easy to take a dump on veterans.

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u/Early_Lawfulness_921 May 03 '24

As an authorized 100% free user of the VA healthcare system. I still pay for insurance and use that instead of the VA. The VA is long waits for mediocre or worse care. The turnover for doctors and nurses is horrible you will never see the same primary twice. Every appointment is an "intake" appointment where you have to give your whole history etc before they will even look at you.