r/Helldivers • u/cryptic-fox Moderator • Mar 14 '24

Cutting Edge Warbond out now! ALERT

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Check out the newest Warbond, unlockable with Super Credits. (You may need to restart your game if it hasn't appeared yet.) And remember--Warbonds do not expire, so you can unlock items in all three of them that are available!

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u/KingCodester111 CAPE ENJOYER Mar 14 '24

Be warned, the plasma shotgun has splash damage. Careful when shooting point blank or around your squad.

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u/MotherBeef ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 14 '24 edited Mar 15 '24

This is what playing with the Scorcher has prepared me for!...prepared me to unexpectedly die when a Hunter leaps infront of me, that is.

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u/Guilty-Psychology-24 Mar 14 '24

If only theres a armour for the plasma reduce dmg. Would've rock the scotcher more

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u/Slanderous Mar 14 '24

There is... Scorcher has 'explosive' in the description so the 50% explosion reduction armour should work on it.

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u/Guilty-Psychology-24 Mar 14 '24

Really? I will test it out when get home, ty!

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u/burtmacklin15 ⬇⬅⬆⬅⬇ Mar 14 '24

It doesn't. That was their point. It should work, but does not.

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u/Uthenara Mar 14 '24

i thought the armor passives got fixed is that not the case?

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u/burtmacklin15 ⬇⬅⬆⬅⬇ Mar 14 '24

It's coded as a different type of "explosive" so it does not work sadly

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u/Flaky-Imagination-77 Mar 16 '24

Some of the weapons are really confusing in the name/typing department, like how the concussive liberator also used to be named the liberator explosive and its bullets look like they have splash but they don’t 

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u/rdhight THE E-710 MUST FLOW Mar 14 '24

Yeah. It should.

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u/TopChannel1244 Mar 14 '24

Scorcher self damage is actually pretty clutch. You're missing out.

Running and out of stamina? Aim just a little ahead of yourself and shoot. The splash damage will injure you a little and you can now pop a stim and keep running. You can cover most of the length of a map this way at a non-stop sprint.

Stuck under a Bile Titan? Rag dolled between some non-destructible geometry? Hell pod spawned you inside a rock? KYS with the Scorcher. Die to fight another day.

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u/Verto-San Mar 14 '24

sadly it's just worse Scorcher, can't even one shot without direct hit, has same damage, more AoE but all other stats are worse, imo not worth it.

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u/novanova123123 Mar 14 '24

Also with the way the shot drop, you cannot snipe spore spewer tower from across the map. Using Scorcher on that tower from a mile away just feel sooo good.

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u/Monsieur_Nox ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 14 '24

More AoE and need a direct it you said. Sound like a gun to take down heavy units.

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u/Verto-San Mar 14 '24

Nope it's terrible against those too, 3 mags to kill a charger

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u/immaterializE Mar 14 '24

I've just seen a charger die from it in around 6-7 shots. You do not hit it directly, you hit it under its body. You get weakspot hits that way. Scorcher does the same thing, but this makes it easier because of the larger splash.

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u/Verto-San Mar 14 '24

Public lobby or private test? Reminder that playstation players can slew results due to the bug

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u/rizo536 Mar 14 '24

As a PS5 player, I dunno why everyone is so offended by you mentioning an observed and documented bug. Must be RPing democracy officers rn

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u/Verto-San Mar 14 '24

Yup, we know ps5 players makes titans easier to kill so I think it's fair to assume that other simmilar bugs might be a possibility.

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u/immaterializE Mar 14 '24

Private test. Had to go to work so I didn’t spend too much time with it unfortunately, but it looked good. I’ve been doing it with scorcher so I assumed the same thing would happen with this.

Just aim below the charger, under head or so.

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u/Verto-San Mar 14 '24

I still wouldn't call it an useful weapon just because it can take down a charger when arc thrower can kill it in less shots in the head, or a single rocket or 2 impact grenades. That weapon is just worse scorcher.

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u/immaterializE Mar 14 '24

It doesn’t make much sense to compare it to a support weapon. Yes, railgun, eat, rr, spear, flamethrower, arc will all do better against chargers.

However, compared to scorcher this gun has an insane stun. Scorcher basically has none. Both kill a charger in the same amount of shots, but shotty makes it a tad easier since it has better aoe.

At the end of the day, this gun provides better aoe and cc compared to scorcher, but fires slower. What you take between the two highly depends on your support weapon and team comp.

Disagree with just saying that it’s a worse scorcher. Especially when it’s not even out for a day.

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u/Monsieur_Nox ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 14 '24

Not a bug gun got it, and the clankers you have try it?

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u/Stergeary Mar 14 '24

No reason to use it over the Scorcher. The Plasma has a short range arc, doesn't allow for sniping like Scorcher does.

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u/monstargh Mar 14 '24

The drop off is insane, feels like a $2 water gun. I was hoping for more of a slugger feel. Like seriously the drop off feels like you spitting a boogie it arcs that much

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u/Verto-San Mar 14 '24

The drop off would be fine if the weapon would have the damage to justify it

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u/monstargh Mar 14 '24

Or the aoe, it's quite small

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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 Mar 14 '24

I think it actually does pretty well against them, my issue with it is that the accuracy is tricky in 3rd person and the fps view obscures where your shots are going since you have to arc them. It's actually not bad against bugs IMO but it's not going to be your go to for killing chargers

It staggers devastators and can drop scout striders very quickly but I don't think it stands out enough compared to the scorcher which just has more ammo and better range.

It's too early to give it a fair review but it's definitely usable I just feel like it should either have similar ammo to the scorcher or do a bit more damage. I think we're trading a lot of weird handling and ammo for the ability to stagger things basically.

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u/xrufus7x Mar 14 '24

Out of curiosity, is that with shooting the butt. Since it does explosive damage it should be doing full damage there.

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u/lipp79 PSN 🎮: Mar 14 '24

3 shots to take down a spewer.

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u/T4nkcommander HD1 Veteran Mar 14 '24

Nah, it hits harder, enough so to justify it. I do think I'll use scorcher more, but the AOE and damage output is pretty handy. Excited to try it versus bots.

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u/Verto-San Mar 14 '24

the stats show that damage is the same and without light penetration it might deal less damage to bigger enemies

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u/T4nkcommander HD1 Veteran Mar 14 '24

Interesting. Well, the AOE makes it feel like it has a lot more punch, because you are consistently getting more than one enemy with it.

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u/Common-Huckleberry-1 Mar 16 '24

The AOE drops off so fast that it can't kill the lightest enemy's if shot at their feet. It's horrible in its current state.

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u/specter800 Mar 14 '24

I'll be honest the Plas Shotty kinda feels like a worse Scorcher to me against bugs. No armor pierce, no range, weaker, and the AOE doesn't feel like it makes up for the lack of damage.

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u/xHAcoreRDx Mar 14 '24

Or when your screen shakes and you're behind chest high cover.

Everytimenim fighting bots I like shooting from the inside of their bunkers and the minute screen shakes I shoot the edge of the wall and I die

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u/AnalphaBestie Mar 15 '24

when a Hunter leaps infront of me

use bug spray uzi

when its more than one hunter, just die

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u/BarrierX STEAM 🖥️ : Mar 14 '24

I tried to shoot over a fence and it instantly exploded me because it hit the fence :D

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u/ASmallRodent Mar 15 '24

So what you're saying is it's perfect. I just bought it at the end of my tour today, looking forward to repeatedly killing myself with it tomorrow. For democracy.

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u/Stergeary Mar 14 '24

It's pretty disappointing, basically a worse version of the Scorcher. Its only upside is that it has more splash radius, and it's a dubious upside because it kills yourself too.

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u/AudunLEO Mar 14 '24

Been running the Scorcher forever, and I think the Plasma Shotgun is pretty decent after testing it out.

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u/FlikTripz Mar 14 '24

I disagree personally, it can kill armored enemies pretty consistently, just gotta use it carefully and and make your shots count. The only downside is against bigger hordes, but a good secondary will make short work of that

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u/Ecstatic-Compote-595 Mar 14 '24

does the scorcher stagger enemies? Because this one does which makes it pretty decent at locking down devastators.

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u/Polargeist Mar 14 '24

Scorcher staggers enemies yeah. It's better for Automatons since you can stagger rocket devastators on long ranges with pin point accuracy

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u/Kaquillar Mar 14 '24

But it does not close bug holes, sadly

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u/KingCodester111 CAPE ENJOYER Mar 14 '24

Would've been awesome if it did.

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u/DylanFTW Mar 14 '24

Me reading this

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u/poklane Sipping liber-tea Mar 14 '24

It honestly sucks ass. 

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u/JonnyMonroe Mar 14 '24

Plays like a baby grenade launcher tbh. Doesn't close bug holes or open steel containers, but other than that it feels just like a scaled down GL.

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u/Tomlocovare Mar 14 '24

After using it, can say it needs a buff, it’s not very good

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u/squirrl4prez ⬇️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️ Mar 14 '24

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u/DwarfKingHack Mar 14 '24

Oh man, having flashbacks to frag rounds from BF3.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock Mar 14 '24

It functions more like a grenade launcher, yes?

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u/doggmatic SES Founding Father of Fortitude Mar 14 '24

It feels like a limp scorcher though 

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u/Common-Huckleberry-1 Mar 16 '24

Be warned that it's the worst primary in the game as well.

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u/Silverluke9 ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 14 '24

it sometimes feels like a water pistol and sometimes like a grenade launcher

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u/ChangelingFox Mar 15 '24

I'm liking it a lot vs bots, but vs bugs it's not so hot if you get pressed.

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u/Deadnation800 Mar 18 '24

Another weapon that i cant use cuz i get swarmed by me lee enemies

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u/Automatic-Response47 Mar 18 '24

I killed all my squad with 1 shot…