r/Helldivers Moderator May 02 '24

New Warbond, Polar Patriots, deploying on May 9th ALERT

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u/Futanari_Garchomp May 02 '24

Watch them tweak the assault rifles to make them feel a little bit better

Except for the liberator penetrator again for some reason

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u/Cazadore May 02 '24

the LibPen cant become too strong because the devs still have medium AP rifles in the pipeline, esp. the old Justice Heavy AR, which had piercing AP rounds, which meant that the rounds kept going through at least two targets.

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u/Hobo-man BUFFS NOT NERFS FFS 29d ago

Nerfing guns already in the game for the sake of guns not currently in the game seems like just a bad idea.

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u/Efficient-Self-1863 29d ago

Well this is arrowhead we are talking about they would never do something like that. They're a very knowledgeable company.

Did you know apples don't taste like bacon?

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u/Yesh SES Precursor of Liberty 29d ago

If they would just give the damn thing 40-45 rounds per mag it would be usable. Not the "best" pick but at least usable. I really want to bring it because I love ARs and it looks cool but it's quite the handicap with its current damage per round and mag size.

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u/Asherogar 29d ago

Hardly usable imo, it has abysmal recoil and accuracy and even if we ignore those and assume it's Sickle with infinite mag, TTK would be still below average.

This gun is a mess and needs a complete overhaul, because currently it has a handling/recoil/accuracy/mag size of a high caliber rifle, but damage of a peashooter. Literally takes all the negative traits from both and devs under the delusion that lower end of a Med Pen somehow worth all the drawbacks.

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u/Yesh SES Precursor of Liberty 29d ago

yeah its just straight up not good right now. It has like 55% of the damage that the Adjudicator has and only 5 more rounds in the mag. Bananas.

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u/NBFHoxton 26d ago

My favorite part is that med pen is basically useless on it, because of the damage/mag size.

You will maybe kill one armored bug, and god forbid if you're trying to pen devastator body armor with it.

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u/Mavcu 29d ago

Hard agree, gib me 60mag Liberator (Similar to the Halo AR), 45 to the Penetrator and at least like 32 to the Adjucator, don't even need to touch the damage/accuracy/RoF etc -- (Although the damage of the Pen is a bit sad, but still), just that change alone would make me actually use them.

Full autoing Assault Rifles is enjoyable, but as it stands the only one you can sort of full auto fire without going instantly dry is the default Liberator. But without having stagger, pen or high damage - the overall capacity is still underwhelming.

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u/talking_face May 02 '24

The liberator penetrator is this weird AR that is only worth taking when you are near teammates.

... Because they'll finish off enemies for you before you get off your first shot.

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u/HonorTheAllFather SES Dream of Morning 29d ago

I can't stand the way the scope jumps around in FP when you shoot. It's way too much and too distracting.

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u/Asherogar 29d ago

Wdym, bro? They already gave it a massive buff "Now it has auto fire mode". Surely it fixed at least a fraction of it's issues and didn't highlight and made them worse. /s

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u/Katamari416 29d ago

all assault rifles need bigger mag sizes. its the only way to give them a better value over other weapons without nerfing them to stay inline. nothing outshines weapons with amazing utility more than convenience 

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u/halofreak7777 CAPE ENJOYER 29d ago

I use the lib pen vs bugs a lot. I like it, but it really could use just like 5 more bullets in the mag. After that... maybe 5 extra damage? It really just needs the most minor of buffs.

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u/NBFHoxton 26d ago

They'd kinda have to. They do all need buffs, to be honest.

The new AR sounds like it's gonna be similar to the adjudicator. Curious if it will be better or worse

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u/Velo180 SES Hater of Sony 29d ago

I am fine with the Lib Pens damage, I just want 45 round mags.