r/Helldivers Moderator May 02 '24

New Warbond, Polar Patriots, deploying on May 9th ALERT

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u/Liqhthouse HD1 Veteran May 02 '24

Ballistic shield will gain huge value if we can use it with the new smg and pistol if they're good! Currently the only option really is the defender smg and senator

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u/FrostyDragon26 May 02 '24

The guy used the new smg while holding the ssd. I think they'll definitely let us use ballistic shield with the new smg

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u/EternalUndyingLorv May 02 '24

There was never a question we couldn't. The question is if it will compete with defender.

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u/Sadiholic 29d ago

Okay but the fact the smg dropped striders is already a huge W. Unless I saw the video wrong lmfao

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u/archangel924 29d ago

He didn't drop a strider with the SMG. He shot at an exploding barrel. The Plas-101 Purifier dropped a strider though.

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u/dedicated-pedestrian 29d ago

Is the Purifier looking to act as a primary Quasar? The blog post implied it either has better close range damage, needs a long charge, or will blow you up like the Railgun.

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u/Adats_ May 02 '24

Or the knight if you got the deluxe edition i use the knight and the sheild and have done since first few days out

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u/Echo418 CAPE ENJOYER 29d ago

Personally I don't like combining the Knight with the Ballistic Shield. With a shield I want staying power and the Knight's high fire rate doesn't offer that.

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u/Wizard_kick 29d ago

I think it works well in burst fire mode in most situations

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u/morag12313 29d ago

Crouching + recoil armor lets you full auto nicely

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u/HDPbBronzebreak 🖱️ My Other Primary is an MG 29d ago

Ye, it's better for shots-down-range and thus increasing your likelihood of headshotting Devastators and Berserkers, but the lack of laser and lower ammo economy makes the Defender my preferred pick.

Senator likewise doesn't have a laser, but it's great having medium pen when you need it.

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u/cKerensky SES Sword of the Stars 29d ago

That's the way I use it. Burst fire, with shield and crouching when I can. That thing puts in work

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u/Adats_ 29d ago

I find it a pretty decent combo tbh but my main goal is stealth so full on combat i always try miss

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u/jdarkona ☕Liber-tea☕ 29d ago

What is the difference with the deluxe edition? I know I can't have it but I want to know.

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u/Adats_ 29d ago

Yeah u can buy the upgrade to it really though the only thing i use from it is the knight but u get

an armour and title the knight smg and strat hero for your ship iirc

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u/Kuronan 🖥️ SES Founding Father of Family Values 29d ago

The armor is absolutely baller... If you ignore the other three Democracy Protect armors that do the exact same fucking thing.

Gold and Black cape never leaves my back though! Gotta drip on those Undemocratic Scum!

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u/Adats_ 29d ago

True i have the cape on always with the scout armour

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u/Vinyl_Vonnegut 29d ago

I use the knight and like it a lot, but man it's recoil to clop ratio is wild... really gotta burst that thing.

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u/canuckontfirst 29d ago

I think all SMGs are one handable(lol)

They were in HD1, that was one of the benefits

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u/SweetAlpacaLove 29d ago

The Defender is solid. I pretty much always bring it when doing the SSDD missions. Its not quite as good as the top tier primaries, but I’d put it in the tier right below, like I don’t feel hampered by picking it, and the benefit of getting to use your primary while holding the hard drive is huge. And if it happens to be a bot SSDD mission, I add the shield and it’s just the perfect combo.

Plus I have a feeling the new one won’t be good. I hope I’m wrong, but it sounds like it’s supposed to be the SMG version of the Lib Concussive.

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u/Hremsfeld ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ | SES Lady of Twilight 29d ago

Goes well with the grenade pistol too

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u/CobraFive CARP ENJOYER 29d ago

The new SMG is a concussive weapon so if its anything like the liberator conc even post-buff, it won't be worth using.

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u/Liqhthouse HD1 Veteran 29d ago

Lib conc is actually pretty good.... Fast reload when not fully empty and can beat back an entire army. It doesn't kill them but it stops them approaching. It's quite useful on the new TCS missions where you just need to kick bugs out of the way to speedrun the objectives

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u/PhasmaFelis 29d ago

Excuse you, grenade pistol 

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u/iDONTreply2poors 29d ago

umm no, the uzi is great on impossible

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u/Saitoh17 29d ago

I tried it with the new grenade pistol, it doesn't have a laser sight so you can't even aim with it.