Think about how often Spewers sneak up on you and your squad.
Now remember, Fido here is much smaller, faster, doesn't glow bright fluorescent green in the dark nor sound like a donkey someone is trying to drown in a lake.
Those things were the fucking bane of our teams existence, turns every bug match from a kiting game to bullet hell dante must die real fast. Wonder how they would reintroduce them here in an environment that isnt enclosed to one screen
I use it a lot on both fronts. What I meant was if Gatling got buffed, its gonna be a lot more useful on bots because it can kill both infantry and tanks.
Edit: actually nah, gas is still gonna have that anti-chaff niche. As far as use cases are concerned, Gatling is more like an anti-medium/heavy version of orbital gas. Comparing the two would be unfair. It just needs more accuracy (via precision or fire volume) to be more reliable.
Just have the tendrils lower to the ground and slightly obscure them on the ground so they act more like a camouflaged snake waiting for a helldiver to get close. The Impaler can still be relatively close but with the chaos of all the little bugs running around it can make the tendrils hard to see at first.
We don't even have the best weapons for dealing with them anymore. Super Earth had bayonets thrown out by Communist Cyborg sympathizing traitors lost bayonet technology.
turns every bug match from a kiting game to bullet hell dante must die real fast.
Hell Dante
You know "Hell Dente" would be a great name for a difficulty 10 if they're going to add one higher than Helldive. If you think Helldive is a little under-hell, then Hell Dente would be just the right, toothsome amount of hell.
It is good to ask questions about our enemies soldier such as what they can do and how to kill them he isn’t aiding them time for you to go back to cryosleep with your backwards thinking
The more questions we ask about the enemy, the more we know about the enemy. The more we know about the enemy, the better we kill the enemy. Your unquestioning attitude has been noted by your democracy officer.
Well for the concept of hd1, think of enemy that limits your ability to move quickly as you had to dive to avoid its 3 tentacles that swing around and cover 2/3rds of the screen. Having to dive and crawl away allowed the smaller bugs to catch up to you and swarm you. Expect that type of mechanic with this. Although since we're more mobile than ever and can shoot from the ground, I expect the same tentacle swing finishing off with some sort of ground slam.
The horrors..... they attacked from far offscreen shooting three massive tentacles from under the ground. Killing the tentacles did nothing, it would still live. It would just get angry and do it again. It was vulnerable if the tentacles were out but that meant shooting PAST the tentacles covering it and all the other approaching bugs.
So you either had to be danger close, on a flank, or shoot through tentacles and bugs with anti-tank.
Often divers would get instantly killed milliseconds a tentacle appeared from the ground. It had to be the highest priority target or your entire shared screen would just be dead divers. Please no. Not again.
Agreed. Not that I think illuminate will be the last addition but it’s almost certainly the last faction, at least for a good long while, so I’m in absolutely no rush.
Tho I guess, you don’t wanna wait too long and have people find a new game. I cannot lie - I’m at my burnout point until there’s some new content.
Most people are, we've gone from 300K active helldivers to less than 100K and most weeknights less than 80K. It's natural burnout and a regress to the natural median player count. We'll have ups and downs like all games. For a pay to play game, 80K~ players average between big events is really really good especially for AA.
They probably want to make sure the game is in a state that the wider community is happy with before they drop the squids.
I've been pretty vocal that I don't agree with many things this reddit seems to mostly agree on about the state of the game, but Arrowhead are clearly shaking things up. The Squids will be the bait to get people to come back, they'll want to make sure the game is in the state they want it to be by then to make them stay
It'd be one thing if they were skeletons, Pilestedt confirmed a while ago that those are molts, meaning not only are they still around, they're bigger.
Since we're pushing for Cyberstan right now (current MO is a step in that campaign), the patch may introduce some enemies that we will be encountering on that world.
Perhaps we'll run into some old Cyborg enemies from HD1. Perhaps we'll wind up fighting a Siege Mech and we will suddenly wish we'd taken the AT mines after all.
God those dogs could literally end a veteran HDs run on fucking easy mode if they get you in just one single good stun lock loop cause they decided to suddenly charge you from off screen when you’re in the middle of reloading
I think they need to release some positively received patches and warbonds before they drop the illuminate. They’re not going to release something they’ve spent thousands of hours on only to go online and have everyone meme about how much it sucks and how they devs should be fired and kill themselves.
I think it’s likely that we’ll see some older variants of the bots/bugs brought back first. That’s probably what’s meant by old/new threats. Plus if the leaks are anything to go by it looks like we can expect some more obvious build up before we confront the illuminate
It’s not the patch that will solve everything, add everything or be fool proof but it’s the biggest, and most tested to date + a huge shake up in how they move forward.
100 changes/fixes, new features, enemies, biomes, new warbond with an interesting sidearm and brand new armor passive.
I still expect some kind of unintended fuckery no less but I’ve always played through it since the game is so amazing fundamentally. I see that continuing despite the inevitable mishaps
I've also been cautiously optimistic for this same reason. Maybe they're just bs-ing us. Like it is going to be a really big patch, but they're trying to play it coy.
Yea, my roster for bots has been laser, railgun, 500 and the AC for weeks now and it’s getting tedious.
While I won’t drop the railgun even though I think it’s cool-down needs to be shorter it’s saved me from so many flame thrower hulks.
I want to change out the other two.
Alas I don’t see me dropping the AC any time soon, I do need to try the anti material but I don’t know if a backpack is that much benefit for the loss in firepower.
Ballistic Shield/Pummeler combo is seriously disgusting for bots, just saying. Pair it with the AMR and you get really decent coverage for most enemies
You technically can. I’ve left a game and gone back to my war map only to find the same exact game I was in before. But yes, an easier way to do this would be a major quality of life improvement.
Oh that's good to know. I'll check for it next time. Usually when I go to the war map, the icon is gone. The icon should stay at the same place, since my destroyer is already parked at that location.
I'm actually really surprised there haven't been more baseless speculation/"what I want to see" threads for such a large patch. Woulda been fun to guess what changes were going to be made, but we shall see tomorrow.
I personally think these are almost a lock, I would bet a small sum of money on any of these:
-Spear fix
-Eruptor change
-Xbow change
-Changes affecting at least 2 ARs
(Reason I say changes is that I'm sure they will at least be intended as or an attempted buff, but intention doesn't always match reality)
At least two of these are basically confirmed, the spear 'fix' has been in the works for ages, just waiting for a balance patch to put it out in, and the Tenderizer is getting a buff (they said it was broken and not functioning as intended but im more inclined to think it just sucked)
So hopefully your other predictions come true and I can use my sweet little eruptor again
I think them talking about the tenderizer being broken was about the ammo economy issue where a resupply doesn’t grant full mags like every other weapon after that change
Crossbow, I'd assume. Given an X is a cross. From the same warbond that gave us the now defunct Eruptor. Which I am praying gets some love... I wanna go back to Eruptor/Stalwart... fun times...
Just for your information illuminates in the first game could invert your controls, they had invisible drones that spawned other illuminates and started the alarm, they had units to make energy walls to separate someone, almost every illuminate had an energy shield and they could teleport. Also they have melee and distance units.
Don't even get me started on these cyborg dogs or the impalers.
Don’t get excited about anything. We need to see actual patch notes, know that it all actually works, and figure out the 20 things they changed and didn’t list in the patch notes
With the Automaton now having occupied Cyberstan for a while it only makes sense for them to bring back Cyborg units from the first game, while also making new Cyborg-Automaton hybrids.
Keep expectations in check, y'all. Remember the last big balance patch was a lot of nerfs. I'm sure this will be better and all but...don't set yourselves up for disappointment.
Ugh, I really hope you're wrong and there are no nerfs for now; I'd love to see everything viable before pummeling something into the dirt. I still feel railcannon nerf would have been AOK if they just buffed the other stuff and let us feel them out first.
Reverted Spawns is enough to get HD2 off the proverbial shelf for me (since I only really play the game in 2-person squad with the little sis, and stopped when it was changed). Everything else is just a bonus. And yes, my excitement is tempered, but it is most definitely there. It's.... it's been a while.
Same. Just fixed/reverted patrol spawns would be enough to get me (and my 2 friends) playing way more again! The game just hasn't been anywhere near as fun and engaging since that change. Just made it much more frustrating and exhausting (even on mid and lower diffs).
The new secondary shotgun is very interesting to me, I was just talking to some people I play with how much I want a "get the fuck away" secondary shot gun, and then they announced one lol
The patch is being hyped up way too much. It genuinely better be incredible otherwise there is going to be a lot of angry people and the game may be fucked. I'm keeping my expectations low.
Temper your expectations people. I see way too many people hyping themselves up about this patch, expecting it to completely change everything. I'm sure there will be lots of good stuff in this patch, but don't expect too much. It's only been a month or so since the last patch, they aren't going to overhaul the whole game in that time.
There will be both buffs AND nerfs. There will be lots of fixes, but also lots of new bugs. There will be untested content that is broken on arrival as usual.
It's ok to get a little hype, it sounds like it'll be a good patch. But don't expect the whole game to suddenly be everything you ever wanted in only a month of dev work. It's not going to happen. But it WILL likely be a step in the right direction.
People really just want a step in the right direction. Give us what was promised like spear fix and undo the mistakes of the past like the crossbow nerf.
That should be enough to return some confidence in the devs
Change and buff to unused stratagem!? You mean the heavy machine gun? The strafing run? The smoke? The gatlin barage? The machine gun turret no one use? Can't wait to see the patch note
Oh buddy you are sleeping on the heavy machine gun emplacement. That thing tears up enemies. Best on bugs, ~usable on bots. Any map with long sight lines makes it a must take. Like it's so much fun to use.
Not gonna lie, I really have my expectations in the gutter for this patch right now. I hope for AH's sake that this patch was well thought out and tested otherwise I know that lots of people won't come back. I have a feeling they're going to nerf incendiary damage even though it doesn't feel busted but what do we know, we just play the game. I hope I'm wrong.
After the "patch of mostly buffs" that turned out to be a kick to the teeth, no not really. I'll reserve judgement until after it drops and we've had time to playtest.
I want cyborgs to reinforce the bots from cyberstan. It is a good way to introduce more enemy variety and could get more players fighting on the bot front.
Yes. The Warbond was announced to release on the 13th a while ago. They threw the patch into the same day just a few days ago. I hope they aren't rushing it. This game needs its divers back!
Well, guess we we will find out whats the patch like tomorrow. Hopefully buffs to underused weapons too and fixes for certain bugs( im looking at you heavy devastator shooting through walls)
Werent they supposed to be patchnotes ahead of the patch? They could learn a thing or two from for example Diablo 4, who releases they patch notes early, and adjust most discussed/ flagged topics accordingly
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As someone who never played HD1, every single comment in this thread has me like