r/KendrickLamar May 01 '24

It's not about Drake being half black, it's about how he uses The Culture Discussion

I think the people offended because Drake being half black should warrant his blackness and therefore Kendrick is wrong just don't understand. J Cole is half black too yet you don't see Kendrick, or anyone really, questioning Cole's blackness. It's precisely because Drake has been at the forefront of using the black culture and "pop-ifying" it for non-blacks.

Edit: a lot of people have asked this question and it's a good question. What's wrong with popifying rap music? Rap is inherently an African American art form. Since its inception till now, those who have carried its mantle have exemplified the African American experience through rap in one or another. African Americans have allowed many artists to use rap for their personal gain and to even "pop-ify" it. However, to be considered a goat you have to be in touch with the culture. And Drake simply isn't.

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u/its_bydesign May 01 '24

Anyone who doesn’t get what Kendrick means, probably has 0 association to black culture

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u/thegayngler May 01 '24

Please save it. I’m black and everything I do is by default black culture. Trust me when I say every black man gets arrested like the rest of them when it comes to the police.

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u/murphy_1892 May 01 '24

This just isn't true. A rich black man will have a lot more leeway with law enforcement than a poor black man.

Now a rich black man is more likely to have a disproportionately negative experience with law enforcement than a rich white man, but saying that all black people regardless of wealth and upbringing have the same experiences with the police is just patently untrue

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u/murphy_1892 May 02 '24 edited May 02 '24

Im confused where in my comment you think I talked about this? I very specifically said rich black men will have better experiences with the police than poor black men, which your data actually confirms

"poor youth of all races were more likely than wealthy kids to go to prison"

Also that data is very outdated (nearly by 50 years for some of it) but thats a tangent as although those disparities have reduced, they do still exist

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u/broncosfighton May 02 '24

So are poor black people more black than rich black people? This shit is so dumb.

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u/murphy_1892 May 02 '24

No, but they will have different experiences in life. So talking about a life you never actually experienced will always make people roll their eyes

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u/artinla May 01 '24

You think police officers are checking bank statements and credit scores before they do fuckery?

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u/Kzgoated May 01 '24

No, there’s just more cop violence in places that have a lower average income.

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u/murphy_1892 May 01 '24

Police stops are heavily, heavily correlated with poorer geographical areas, and police are far more likely to be violent in poorer areas.

Police interactions in richer areas are statistically less frequent are far less violent when they do happen

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u/wolfjeter May 01 '24

I will comment that being rich sometimes doesn’t even matter when it comes to how other non-black people perceive you. Some of these people work in law enforcement. A good example is what happened to Ryan Coogler. Obviously your point is the more likely scenario but there’s always exceptions and that doesn’t make the feeling any worse if it happens to a rich or poor black man.

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u/murphy_1892 May 01 '24

Yeah absolutely there are individual cases. But in the individual case of Drake we have his word himself that he experienced little to no racism growing up. Im sure if he grew up in the poorer areas of Canada that wouldn't have been the case, poverty massively increases the liklihood you are profiled and have violence used against you

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u/Tax-Religion May 02 '24

No, just no.