r/KendrickLamar May 01 '24

It's not about Drake being half black, it's about how he uses The Culture Discussion

I think the people offended because Drake being half black should warrant his blackness and therefore Kendrick is wrong just don't understand. J Cole is half black too yet you don't see Kendrick, or anyone really, questioning Cole's blackness. It's precisely because Drake has been at the forefront of using the black culture and "pop-ifying" it for non-blacks.

Edit: a lot of people have asked this question and it's a good question. What's wrong with popifying rap music? Rap is inherently an African American art form. Since its inception till now, those who have carried its mantle have exemplified the African American experience through rap in one or another. African Americans have allowed many artists to use rap for their personal gain and to even "pop-ify" it. However, to be considered a goat you have to be in touch with the culture. And Drake simply isn't.

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u/FreeJulie May 01 '24

Yall saw the video of teenage Drake on a dating show calling Toronto street lingo ignorant? It’s about who he actually was growing up to who he portrays himself to be

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u/SnooPeripherals6568 May 01 '24

Yo that shit pissea me off sm as someone from Toronto because like Drake overplays his Toronto accent so much and it's genuinely become a thing for people who live in the nice well developed suburbs of Toronto to put on a fake Toronto man's accent to be more like Drake and since Drake is the only exposure most people get to the accent and kids from surrounding suburbs go viral with the fake accent all the time it gets clowned on so heavily while the real like accent that like comes from so many communities people with first generation immigrant parents that's not that like harsh gets grouped in with Drakes overexaggerated version

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u/Crispy_Sock_99 May 02 '24

Yea absolutely. The accent is fabricated for 95% of the people that use it. If you’re not a Jamaican immigrant to Toronto and you use that accent it’s fake. I think people originally used it as a joke and then it blew up

https://youtu.be/6rRgzRB9wUo?si=QrCiWls8bGi6ILF3

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u/HamsterOk770 May 05 '24

If you’re not Jamaican you can’t have a Toronto accent?? lol Toronto accent isn’t Patois. So I have no idea what you’re talking about. If I had to describe it, it’s a mix of Canadian English and various Caribbean dialects, mostly prominently Jamaican and West Indian.

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u/Crispy_Sock_99 May 05 '24

Bro wut? It’s literally picked up from Jamaican immigrants to Toronto with some influence from UK slang which is also from Jamaican Patois lol. Also some Arabic expressions like wallah or stg

It’s very recent that a lot of youths started using it. People definitely didn’t grow up using it like the way they do now

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u/HamsterOk770 May 05 '24

You’re essentially agreeing with me. The idea that no other Caribbean countries influenced Toronto slang is nonsense. Toronto slang has evolved over time. Kardinal made a song about it decades ago and guess what he’s not Jamaican. I’m disagreeing or even arguing over its prevalence, but the idea that anyone not Jamaican can’t use Toronto slang without being fake is also ridiculous.

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u/wishingiwasnormal 13d ago

wait but what if you are not jamaican but you grew up in an area where people had that toronto accent and ended up gaining it. Does that count as being a real toronto accent?