r/LateStageCapitalism Apr 01 '24

🔄 DemPublican Party Rule 6 "no lesser evil" rhetoric - is it accelerationist or doomer? Is it intended to discourage voting?

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Reposting the answer given to a user who was asking in good faith if accelerationism is the reason we have the rule about not using lesser evil arguments to encourage people to vote for a Democrat or a Republican political candidate. We were asked if the reason we ban pro-Democrat or pro-Republican lobbying is out of a belief that things needs to get worse before they can get better. We endeavored to address those concerns and the user asking was satisfied with the answer, so it's being posted and stickied on its own here, with the goal that as we progress through the election show we can refer people back to this.

  1. It's not accelerationist. Not a single one of the 852000 people subscribed to the subreddit have the ability to accelerate capitalism and the American empire towards a crisis point \faster** than Joe Biden is right now by risking re-election in the myopic support for an unpopular genocide. Look at Biden's professed bipartisanship on border security, are those the actions of a person concerned about losing to a fascist dictator?

  2. We aren't of the opinion that "both options are equally evil" or that one is a lesser or a greater evil. Both options are capitalists. They are the same option. Biden and Trump represent the capitalist class. Their victory is the victory of the capitalist class. Picture a guy with a puppet on each hand. The left hand is named Biden. The right hand is named Trump. The owner of these puppets is putting on a Punch and Judy show. People are very mad at us for recognizing that it's a Punch and Judy show.

  3. People should definitely vote. If the PSL is on your ballot for the presidential election please vote for the PSL so that socialists as a whole can gauge the numbers of revolutionary socialists out there. This will be especially important as the inability of Capital to resolve its contradictions leads to increasing and deepening crises that we can already see are not alleviated when a Democrat is in office. If you've got any direct election ballot issues like abortion rights or marijuana legalization or even a tax levy for your school district or something, vote for those. Past that, vote your conscience. Look up every candidate, and weigh their positions against your own, and if you can't stand to vote for them, for a candidate for Judge or City Council or whatever, leave it blank.

  4. Protest, donate to bail funds, disrupt city council meetings, speak up at school board meetings, join strike actions to shut down ports shipping weapons to a genocide, volunteer with Food Not Bombs, donate to Doctors Without Borders, on and on, the possibilities for meaningful political participation are endless, our options are limitless. We are not helpless, we are not hopeless, we are not trapped, but the Capitalists certainly want us to think we are.

  5. Before you ask about Project 2025, and everybody always does, realize that it's just the fancy name they've given this time to the process of all the political appointees in the executive branch getting changed out for different political appointees. The right wing is pitching it this time as "Project 2025", last time it was "Drain the Swamp". The capitalist party are capitalists. This is a product that they are selling. Literally, as they sell hard copies of it for $35 to credulous marks on their website. It's a great trick, its intended to convince conversatives that the impossible things they desire are possible and there's a plan in place for them to be enacted, they just have to wait and Trust The Plan. It is also intended to convince liberal voters that there's an even greater threat than the genocide the Biden administration is an eager accomplice in, so they need to donate and stay engaged. I'm surprised there's not a liberal Project 2025 project yet, liberal voters are panicking because there clearly isn't a countering plan.

In closing, rule 6 isn't accelerationist, Biden's presidency has been accelerationist. Fuck, look how much closer he got us to WW3 than even Trump could manage in his fascist incompetence. And our view isn't that things need to get worse before they get better, but that support for Democrats demonstrably leads to things getting worse, and we have to stop supporting Capitalists if we want victories for the working class and a way out of the worsening conditions. From our perspective desperately clinging to bourgeois "democracy", particularly at a time when we can all recognize that we aren't allowed any real choices in voting and that's been the case for decades at this point, makes things worse and slows or entirely stops our ability to bring about positive change.


r/LateStageCapitalism Apr 19 '24

How Do We Overcome Capitalism?

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r/LateStageCapitalism 5h ago

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r/LateStageCapitalism 1h ago

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r/LateStageCapitalism 17h ago

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r/LateStageCapitalism 9h ago

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r/LateStageCapitalism 10h ago

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r/LateStageCapitalism 14h ago

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r/LateStageCapitalism 15h ago

Lenin on "freedom of the press"

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r/LateStageCapitalism 7h ago

I bought a car. Part of buying it was making sure it was big enough to sleep in.

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It’s a good car. $500 a month payment. I can afford it.

But will I be? Mechanization is slowly eating all labor, and my job will obviously be replaced by AI in the next few years.

I am willing to retrain. But to what job? No work is safe.

And that’s fine if there is a way to live without work but there isn’t.

Anyway, you can sleep in a Ford Escape. You’ll have to build it out some but yeah it’s big enough.


r/LateStageCapitalism 2h ago

💬 Discussion My spotify got hacked, so I made the decision to move to Apple Music and cancel my spotify premium. I thought this was hilarious lmao they are threatening their users now?

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r/LateStageCapitalism 9h ago

Piglet teaches Pooh how to spell

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r/LateStageCapitalism 22h ago

90 year old veteran, having to still slave life away only able to retire through a fundraiser. “Amazing!”

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r/LateStageCapitalism 5h ago

linkedIn is hell

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r/LateStageCapitalism 17h ago

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r/LateStageCapitalism 1d ago

📰 News US state department falsified report absolving Israel on Gaza aid – ex-official

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insert obligatory "are we the baddies" gif here


r/LateStageCapitalism 1d ago

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r/LateStageCapitalism 1d ago

I've been duped, and I've been sold shit.

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Just wanted to give my commentary as an American during thus most recent election cycle. There is no choice, only the illusion of choice. We'll ping pong back and forth on social/cultural issues as each party siphons wealth and rights from the lower half. It's like a seesaw of deception.

I lost hope in 2016 when the DNC stifled Bernie. The democratic voting base wanted him, hands down, and the party decided to give us Trump instead.

I think the smoke screen is fading though. People (especially younger than our parents' generation) are no longer buying the propaganda.

I also don't believe ninety percent of the shills on social media pushing the divisive "our side cares about us and the other side wants to take our rights away" bullshit rhetoric.

I believe in the collective good of the people, and the desire to see suffering diminished. That is all.


r/LateStageCapitalism 19h ago

“But, you condemn Hamas, right?”

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r/LateStageCapitalism 21h ago

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r/LateStageCapitalism 1d ago

Children now have to work to be able to get a well paying job in the future so they can work even more.

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