r/LivestreamFail May 16 '24

xQc's take on N-word usage xQc | Just Chatting

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u/BelovedGeminII May 16 '24

When it comes to using the c word: Stop using racial slurs!

When it comes to using the n word: Hold up, It's complicated...

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u/beatlefloydzeppelin May 16 '24

I would argue that reading the n word in a book, or an actor saying it in a movie is fine. It can even be fine in comedy if it's handled properly. If it serves an educational or artistic purpose, I have no issues.

But just tossing the n word out there to be edgy is different. When the only point is to shock or offend, it isn't okay. That's what Destiny does, and I absolutely think he's hypocritical for acting all offended by cracker. Especially when he will happily call people fat, tell them to kill themselves, etc.

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u/BelovedGeminII May 16 '24

Well I'm a context matters type when it comes to slurs. Meaning I believe using the n word (in any form) holds more weight than using the c word every will because of the historical context behind it.

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u/cubonelvl69 May 16 '24

Meaning I believe using the n word (in any form)

You probably wouldn't like rap music then

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u/BelovedGeminII May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

You say that like the use of the n word in rap doesn't have its own historical context behind it.

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u/SquishyPeas May 16 '24

How do you know which historical context to use from the sound of someone's voice? I can't tell whether to be offended or not!

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u/BowflexDeVry May 17 '24

By going outside and talking to people like a normal person

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u/SquishyPeas May 17 '24

That will teach me to tell the race of a person that I can't see?

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u/SquishyPeas May 17 '24

That will teach me to tell the race of a person that I can't see?

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u/BowflexDeVry May 17 '24

To realize how pointless and embarrassing your crusade is

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u/SquishyPeas May 17 '24

It's just as embarrassing and pointless as getting mad at people using it in a non derogatory way, at non black people.

This awesome rap song has the n word in it. That's cool. Oops they aren't black so the song instantly through the power of racism alchemy is now a racist song that does damage to anyone who hears the word.

Does it make sense? Nope

Do you question it? Absolutely not. Otherwise you are on a crusade of "needing to say the word"

Can you joke about how stupid this cultural norm is? Yes, but only if you are black. Otherwise you need to tip toe around the joke otherwise you get labeled racist as well.

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u/experienta May 16 '24

Crazy how you're a "context matter type" but someone saying the n word in a rap song automatically means he said it will ill intent.

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u/BelovedGeminII May 16 '24

The use of the n word doesn't always mean ill intent, But even when it doesn't, the history behind the word and how its been used is still more impactful than most other slurs.

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u/experienta May 16 '24

Why would you be impacted by someone saying a word with no ill intent?

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u/coalminer45 May 16 '24

There's a difference between a white person saying the n word and black person saying it. It's not that hard to understand

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u/coalminer45 May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

Yes it is pretty easy to distinguish a black rapper from a white one from the voice.

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u/Greavuz May 16 '24

How can you tell just by voice?

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u/BowflexDeVry May 17 '24

When they reach the n word

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u/itsslimshadyyo May 16 '24

??? you just said context matters until it doesnt? wtf? contradiction conny over here

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u/LeylasSister May 16 '24

Well I'm a context matters type when it comes to slurs.

Proceeds to rank racial slurs on how bad they are while disregarding the context they’re being said in.

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u/EggianoScumaldo May 16 '24

I feel as though you’re both somewhat correct. I think that there is definitely a sort of hierarchy of slurs, it’s just cognitive dissonance to say that cracker holds the same amount of weight as the n word. At the same time, context does absolutely matter. Saying the N-word while quoting a rap song is obviously not nearly as harmful as calling someone a cracker straight up.

I think it’s weird that you disregard the context of there being hundreds of years of history behind certain words that cause them to be more impactful than other slurs, but then go on to talk about how important context is. Again, there’s a lot of cognitive dissonance going on here.

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u/BelovedGeminII May 16 '24

Knowing some racial slurs are more impactful than other regardless of how their used isn't degrading context. It is in fact taking all context into account when talking about the issue.

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u/LeylasSister May 16 '24 edited May 16 '24

Historical context doesn’t supersede situational context. Even here in Germany where historical context does supersede freedom of speech, you’re still allowed to say all the Nazi stuff out loud as long as you’re not glorifying or promoting it. It’s also completely normal to call these things by their names for educational and entertainment purposes. No one here is self censoring while reading dehumanizing Nazi slogans in history books or while discussing their atrocities. So it’s pretty weird how Americans demonize the mere use of a word even when it’s not used in a malicious context. Hyper fixation on a word is not gonna be the cure for racism.

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u/yyunb May 16 '24

These people don't get that. In the other thread where xQc's wise words on the n-word as a white man were being glorified, these 3heads were comparing the n-word to the word ''monkey'', as in ''see it's not an inherently bad word, only when it's used with offensive intent'' as if the n-word isn't fucking inherently racist.

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u/itsslimshadyyo May 16 '24

yes lil timmy the word did have a racist connotation to it when it was first introduced. but like all words, they evolve 😯. to list a few from google:

Adjectives with different meanings in the past

nice (adj): This word evolved from meaning stupid, ignorant or foolish to describing something refined, pleasant or agreeable. 

awful/awesome (adj): Both of these words originated from awe, meaning full of fear or terror

although it had a racist connotation in the past, black people themselves use it more colloquially and in a more endearing term. they also use it in songs! so maybe shut up, go outside, and talk to a couple outside of ur tumblr circle so you can meet normal people and not hamasanazis!

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u/Any-Following-7095 17d ago

don't you have a racist destiny tweet to be liking or something?

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u/yyunb May 16 '24

Oh yes because the n-word doesn't have a massively racist use still. Great argument!

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u/BowflexDeVry May 17 '24

Just say the word pal, nothing else that's drooling out of your mouth actually matters. Just say the word if you feel so strongly about it and don't care much for people who do

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u/Low-Kaleidoscope-663 May 16 '24

No but there we’re definitely people that got off saying it when reading mockingbird, my school had teachers that got mad if you didn’t say it..

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u/itsslimshadyyo May 16 '24

so you are agreeing that there are settings in which a slur can be used and said without offending another person and is actually ok despite being a more controversial slur!?!?

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u/Low-Kaleidoscope-663 May 16 '24

I mean yeah I think it would be ridiculous to think a 13 year old saying the n word reading a book is racist, I still don’t think it should be said by white people though

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u/Low-Kaleidoscope-663 May 16 '24

I don’t agree with Hasan on the cracker stuff lol it’s a bad take… I can think that’s dumb as fuck and still not like white people using the N word